The ConTeXt logo

The ConTeXt logo

[Idris S Hamid]

What is the official way to type the ConTeXt logo? Personally, I like

{\sc Con\TeX{}t}

but I need to get the \TeX{} done in small caps. I could program this but I'm 
not sure what the best parameters are. Knuth in Digital Typography (181--182) 
gives the TeX logo parameters for 10 of the cm fonts but not for small caps. 
Has anyone here done this? Any other suggestions?

Best wishes
Idris

-- 
Dr. Idris S Hamid
Department of Philosophy
Colorado State University
Fort Collins, CO 80526

Re: The ConTeXt logo

[Michael Hallgren]

Quoting Idris S Hamid <ishamid@attbi.com>:

> What is the official way to type the ConTeXt logo?

\CONTEXT

mh

> Personally, I like
> 
> {\sc Con\TeX{}t}
> 
> but I need to get the \TeX{} done in small caps. I could program this
> but I'm 
> not sure what the best parameters are. Knuth in Digital Typography
> (181--182) 
> gives the TeX logo parameters for 10 of the cm fonts but not for small
> caps. 
> Has anyone here done this? Any other suggestions?
> 
> Best wishes
> Idris
> 
> -- 
> Dr. Idris S Hamid
> Department of Philosophy
> Colorado State University
> Fort Collins, CO 80526
> 

--
Michael Hallgren, http://m.hallgren.free.fr/, MH2198-RIPE

Re: The ConTeXt logo

[Idris S Hamid]

On Saturday 22 June 2002 09:57, Michael Hallgren wrote:
> Quoting Idris S Hamid <ishamid@attbi.com>:
> > What is the official way to type the ConTeXt logo?
>
> \CONTEXT

Ok, thnx, but I'd still like to see \TeX in small caps:-) I suspect the logo 
will look nicer that way.

Idris

-- 
Dr. Idris S Hamid
Department of Philosophy
Colorado State University
Fort Collins, CO 80526

Re: The ConTeXt logo

[Patrick Gundlach]

Idris S Hamid <ishamid@attbi.com> writes:

Hi,

> What is the official way to type the ConTeXt logo? 

You know it, don't you? :)

> Personally, I like
> {\sc Con\TeX{}t}

that is not official :)

> but I need to get the \TeX{} done in small caps. I could program this but I'm 
> not sure what the best parameters are. Knuth in Digital Typography (181--182) 
> gives the TeX logo parameters for 10 of the cm fonts but not for small caps. 
> Has anyone here done this? Any other suggestions?

ok, here are my .02 EUR.

1: \CONTEXT

2: {\sc C\kern -.0667emo\kern -.0667emn\kern -.0549emt\kern -.1667em\lower .5ex\hbox {e}\kern -.125emx\kern -.0549emt}

3: Con\TeX t

4: {\sc Con\TeX{}t}

5: {\sc Con\TeX t}

6: {\sc Cont\kern -.1667em\lower .5ex\hbox {e}\kern -.125emxt}

1) original. The letters are already a bit kerned. Since the TEX is
   close together, it does look ok as a single word, but not so much
   in running text. 

2) my definition of a sc-variant (if I had to make one). It is (like
   1) kerned, but I think that this is necessary. But not really nice,
   either. But imo the letters cannot be spaced more, because the TEX
   would be too emphasised.

3) Let us not talk about this one...

4), 5) the T at the end is too far away it falls off. An alternative:
{\sc C\kern -.0667emo\kern -.0667emn\kern -.0549emT\kern -.1667em\lower .5ex\hbox {E}\kern -.125emX\kern -.0855emt}

6) also kind of ok, but it just does not look right.

They all apply to cmr (cmcsc) 10 scaled at 12 pt.

Patrick

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Re: The ConTeXt logo

[Idris S Hamid]

On Saturday 22 June 2002 11:42, Patrick Gundlach wrote:

> 1: \CONTEXT
>
> 2: {\sc C\kern -.0667emo\kern -.0667emn\kern -.0549emt\kern -.1667em\lower
> .5ex\hbox {e}\kern -.125emx\kern -.0549emt}
>
> 3: Con\TeX t
>
> 4: {\sc Con\TeX{}t}
>
> 5: {\sc Con\TeX t}
>
> 6: {\sc Cont\kern -.1667em\lower .5ex\hbox {e}\kern -.125emxt}
>

I think that 2) has the most potential. \CONTEXT just does not work; it's too 
long and appears rather ``forced''. \LaTeX has that raised `A' to add 
balance. In the 2nd option, the height of the capital `C' appears to balance 
the lower `E', and the small caps subdue the feeling that the thing is too 
long. Maybe some subtle changes would help, but I like (2 and will use it if 
Hans doesn't sue me:-)

Best wishes
Idris

-- 
Dr. Idris S Hamid
Department of Philosophy
Colorado State University
Fort Collins, CO 80526

Re: The ConTeXt logo

[Hans Hagen]

At 09:11 PM 6/23/2002 -0600, Idris S Hamid wrote:
>On Saturday 22 June 2002 11:42, Patrick Gundlach wrote:
>
> > 1: \CONTEXT
> >
> > 2: {\sc C\kern -.0667emo\kern -.0667emn\kern -.0549emt\kern -.1667em\lower
> > .5ex\hbox {e}\kern -.125emx\kern -.0549emt}
> >
> > 3: Con\TeX t
> >
> > 4: {\sc Con\TeX{}t}
> >
> > 5: {\sc Con\TeX t}
> >
> > 6: {\sc Cont\kern -.1667em\lower .5ex\hbox {e}\kern -.125emxt}
> >
>
>I think that 2) has the most potential. \CONTEXT just does not work; it's too
>long and appears rather ``forced''. \LaTeX has that raised `A' to add
>balance. In the 2nd option, the height of the capital `C' appears to balance
>the lower `E', and the small caps subdue the feeling that the thing is too
>long. Maybe some subtle changes would help, but I like (2 and will use it if
>Hans doesn't sue me:-)

ok, i agree that subtle spacing is important.

(i will look into the logo later, bit busy now)
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Re: The ConTeXt logo

[Idris S Hamid]

> 2: {\sc C\kern -.0667emo\kern -.0667emn\kern -.0549emt\kern -.1667em\lower
> .5ex\hbox {e}\kern -.125emx\kern -.0549emt}

Here's another, philosophical reason I like a logo based on 2): 

Compared with LaTeX, ConTeXt is (or at least certainly aims to be) so much 
more than a mere macropackage. Placing \TeX in small caps reflects this 
relative role of TeX to the whole system compared to its role in LaTeX.

Idris

-- 
Dr. Idris S Hamid
Department of Philosophy
Colorado State University
Fort Collins, CO 80526

Re: The ConTeXt logo

[Patrick Gundlach]

Idris S Hamid <ishamid@attbi.com> writes:

> What is the official way to type the ConTeXt logo? Personally, I like

[...]

There is an article in the TUG '98 conference proceedings about
"visual debugging in TeX". In the text there is a context logo which
is either \sc or scaled down (I think it is the latter). The author
should know and might share this knowledge with us :). It is---what a
coincidence---the same author that wrote the favourite TeX macro
package we all use.

Patrick
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Re: The ConTeXt logo

[Hans Hagen]

At 10:05 AM 6/24/2002 +0200, Patrick Gundlach wrote:
>Idris S Hamid <ishamid@attbi.com> writes:
>
> > What is the official way to type the ConTeXt logo? Personally, I like
>
>[...]
>
>
>There is an article in the TUG '98 conference proceedings about
>"visual debugging in TeX". In the text there is a context logo which
>is either \sc or scaled down (I think it is the latter). The author
>should know and might share this knowledge with us :). It is---what a
>coincidence---the same author that wrote the favourite TeX macro
>package we all use.

since i happen to know that guy ...

\def\ConTeXt
                   {C%
    \CMRkern-.0333emo%
    \CMRkern-.0333emn%
%  \CMRkern-.1667em\TeX
    \CMRkern-.0667em\TeX
    \CMRkern-.0333emt}

\usemodule[abr-00] test \CONTEXT\ test \par
\usemodule[abr-01] test \CONTEXT\ test \par
\usemodule[abr-02] test \CONTEXT\ test

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