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* Beginners Questions on Fonts
@ 2002-09-18  8:39 Peter Sojan
  2002-09-18  9:50 ` Taco Hoekwater
  2002-09-18 11:00 ` Bill McClain
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: Peter Sojan @ 2002-09-18  8:39 UTC (permalink / raw)


Hi all!

Please help me to clarify following concepts:

- What is the difference between \setupbodyfont and 
  \definebodyfont ? How do they relate to each other?

- What does an argument with multiple sizes mean? 
  e.g. in: 
  \definebodyfont [14.4pt,12pt,11pt,10pt,9pt,8pt,7pt,6pt,5pt] 
		  [ss] 
		  [default]

  What does "default" mean?

- What is a bodyfont-environment?

- What's the difference between 
  \definebodyfontenvironment [12pt]
                        [ text=12pt, script=9pt, scriptscript=7pt,
                          x=10pt, xx=8pt,        
                          big=12pt, small=10pt]  
  and simple 
  \definebodyfontenvironment [24pt]

- What's the difference between \definefontsynonym and 
  \definefont? Both allow building aliases, but the 
  latter also allows scaling, right?

I'm sorry for this rather stupid questions, but any answer 
could help me to gain further insight. 

Thx in advance!
Peter


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* Re: Beginners Questions on Fonts
  2002-09-18  8:39 Beginners Questions on Fonts Peter Sojan
@ 2002-09-18  9:50 ` Taco Hoekwater
  2002-09-18 10:04   ` Peter Sojan
  2002-09-18 11:00 ` Bill McClain
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: Taco Hoekwater @ 2002-09-18  9:50 UTC (permalink / raw)
  Cc: ntg-context

This should help:

  http://www.pragma-ade.com/general/manuals/mfonts.pdf

On Wed, 18 Sep 2002 10:39:39 +0200, Peter wrote:

> 
> Hi all!
> 
> Please help me to clarify following concepts:
> 
> - What is the difference between \setupbodyfont and 
>   \definebodyfont ? How do they relate to each other?
> 
> - What does an argument with multiple sizes mean? 
>   e.g. in: 
>   \definebodyfont [14.4pt,12pt,11pt,10pt,9pt,8pt,7pt,6pt,5pt] 
> 		  [ss] 
> 		  [default]
> 
>   What does "default" mean?
> 
> - What is a bodyfont-environment?
> 
> - What's the difference between 
>   \definebodyfontenvironment [12pt]
>                         [ text=12pt, script=9pt, scriptscript=7pt,
>                           x=10pt, xx=8pt,        
>                           big=12pt, small=10pt]  
>   and simple 
>   \definebodyfontenvironment [24pt]
> 
> - What's the difference between \definefontsynonym and 
>   \definefont? Both allow building aliases, but the 
>   latter also allows scaling, right?
> 
> I'm sorry for this rather stupid questions, but any answer 
> could help me to gain further insight. 
> 
> Thx in advance!
> Peter
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 

-- 
groeten,

Taco


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* Re: Beginners Questions on Fonts
  2002-09-18  9:50 ` Taco Hoekwater
@ 2002-09-18 10:04   ` Peter Sojan
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: Peter Sojan @ 2002-09-18 10:04 UTC (permalink / raw)


On Wed, Sep 18, 2002 at 11:50:44AM +0200, Taco Hoekwater wrote:
> 
> This should help:
> 
>   http://www.pragma-ade.com/general/manuals/mfonts.pdf
> 

I've been reading and switching back and forth between the 
following documents for a week now:

   mfonts.pdf   (Context-Font Manual), 
   cont-enp.pdf (Context Manual), 
   mp-cp-en.pdf (Context An Excursion)

The documentation is amazing, but I fail to understand 
the relevant part about font-management. Of course there's
always the possibility that I'm a complete idiot :)

Thx 
Peter


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* Re: Beginners Questions on Fonts
  2002-09-18  8:39 Beginners Questions on Fonts Peter Sojan
  2002-09-18  9:50 ` Taco Hoekwater
@ 2002-09-18 11:00 ` Bill McClain
  2002-09-18 11:55   ` Peter Sojan
  2002-09-18 12:05   ` Double sided document Ron van Ostayen
  1 sibling, 2 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: Bill McClain @ 2002-09-18 11:00 UTC (permalink / raw)


On Wed, 18 Sep 2002 10:39:39 +0200
Peter Sojan <ilikeunix@gmx.net> wrote:

> I'm sorry for this rather stupid questions, but any answer 
> could help me to gain further insight. 

Font management made no sense to me until I studied typescripts. I still
don't undertstand the internals, but I can install new fonts and manage
the ones I have. I've put my notes online at:

    http://home.salamander.com/~wmcclain/context-help.html

-Bill
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* Re: Beginners Questions on Fonts
  2002-09-18 11:00 ` Bill McClain
@ 2002-09-18 11:55   ` Peter Sojan
  2002-09-18 12:36     ` Hans Hagen
  2002-09-18 12:05   ` Double sided document Ron van Ostayen
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: Peter Sojan @ 2002-09-18 11:55 UTC (permalink / raw)


On Wed, Sep 18, 2002 at 06:00:01AM -0500, Bill McClain wrote:
> On Wed, 18 Sep 2002 10:39:39 +0200
> Peter Sojan <ilikeunix@gmx.net> wrote:
> 
> > I'm sorry for this rather stupid questions, but any answer 
> > could help me to gain further insight. 
> 
> Font management made no sense to me until I studied typescripts. I still
> don't undertstand the internals, but I can install new fonts and manage
> the ones I have. I've put my notes online at:
> 
>     http://home.salamander.com/~wmcclain/context-help.html

I knew your tutorial already, and with its help I understand 
the rather "low-level" typescripts better than the more "usual" 
font-commands like \definebodyfont or \definefont ...

Peter


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* Double sided document
  2002-09-18 11:00 ` Bill McClain
  2002-09-18 11:55   ` Peter Sojan
@ 2002-09-18 12:05   ` Ron van Ostayen
  2002-09-18 12:39     ` Hans Hagen
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: Ron van Ostayen @ 2002-09-18 12:05 UTC (permalink / raw)


Is there a better or more standard way to make a document doublesided 
than to use:

\setuppagenumbering
	[alternative=doublesided]

This method works, and is the one I've found in the manual cont-enp.pdf, 
  but I would expect some kind of setupdocumentlayout or somesuch where 
this kind of setup can be made.

Ron van Ostayen


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* Re: Beginners Questions on Fonts
  2002-09-18 11:55   ` Peter Sojan
@ 2002-09-18 12:36     ` Hans Hagen
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: Hans Hagen @ 2002-09-18 12:36 UTC (permalink / raw)
  Cc: ntg-context

At 01:55 PM 9/18/2002 +0200, Peter Sojan wrote:
>On Wed, Sep 18, 2002 at 06:00:01AM -0500, Bill McClain wrote:
> > On Wed, 18 Sep 2002 10:39:39 +0200
> > Peter Sojan <ilikeunix@gmx.net> wrote:
> >
> > > I'm sorry for this rather stupid questions, but any answer
> > > could help me to gain further insight.
> >
> > Font management made no sense to me until I studied typescripts. I still
> > don't undertstand the internals, but I can install new fonts and manage
> > the ones I have. I've put my notes online at:
> >
> >     http://home.salamander.com/~wmcclain/context-help.html
>
>I knew your tutorial already, and with its help I understand
>the rather "low-level" typescripts better than the more "usual"
>font-commands like \definebodyfont or \definefont ...

hm, \definebodyfont just maps filenames (either or not symbolic names that 
resolve in real ones) onto internal names like \bf \sl etc

\definebodyfont[10pt][rm][tf=whatever at 10.2pt]

and alike.

This is only effective after a fresh (\setupbodyfont[reset]) 
\setupbodyfont[10pt].

For the rest, the how and why's of such a system, you need to be aware of 
tex's way of dealing with fonts (esp math complicates the matter).

Hans

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* Re: Double sided document
  2002-09-18 12:05   ` Double sided document Ron van Ostayen
@ 2002-09-18 12:39     ` Hans Hagen
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: Hans Hagen @ 2002-09-18 12:39 UTC (permalink / raw)
  Cc: ntg-context

At 02:05 PM 9/18/2002 +0200, you wrote:

>Is there a better or more standard way to make a document doublesided than 
>to use:
>
>\setuppagenumbering
>         [alternative=doublesided]
>
>This method works, and is the one I've found in the manual 
>cont-enp.pdf,  but I would expect some kind of setupdocumentlayout or 
>somesuch where this kind of setup can be made.

this is the normal way, originating in the first version of context, i.e. a 
very old command [if i would implement it now, i would probably use 
\setuplayout, and maybe will some day as an alternative]

Hans
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                       Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands
  tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com
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