From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/9627 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Hans Hagen Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: [NTG-context] Gamma support in TeXExec? Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 10:24:49 +0200 Sender: ntg-context-admin@ref.vet.uu.nl Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.1.20021022101312.02d88548@server-1> References: <5.1.0.14.1.20021021085206.02ecf2a8@server-1> <5.1.0.14.1.20021020184536.00afa6e0@remote-1> <5.1.0.14.1.20021020184536.00afa6e0@remote-1> <5.1.0.14.1.20021021085206.02ecf2a8@server-1> NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035399927 4585 80.91.224.250 (23 Oct 2002 19:05:27 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 19:05:27 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Giuseppe Bilotta , ntg-context@ntg.nl Original-Received: from hermes.hrz.uni-giessen.de (hermes.hrz.uni-giessen.de [134.176.2.15]) by osiris.hrz.uni-giessen.de (8.11.6+Sun/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9M9QTe07737 for ; Tue, 22 Oct 2002 11:26:29 +0200 (MEST) Original-Received: from ref.vet.uu.nl by hermes.hrz.uni-giessen.de with ESMTP for Guenter.Partosch@hrz.uni-giessen.de; Tue, 22 Oct 2002 11:26:23 +0200 Original-Received: from ref.ntg.nl (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by ref.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EFE810AE0; Tue, 22 Oct 2002 11:26:16 +0200 (MEST) Original-Received: from mail.solcon.nl (mail.solcon.nl [212.45.33.11]) by ref.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40FEC10ADB for ; Tue, 22 Oct 2002 11:25:53 +0200 (MEST) Original-Received: from server-1.pragma-ade.nl (wc-58016.solcon.nl [212.45.58.16]) by mail.solcon.nl (8.12.5/pre1.0-MySQL/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g9M9JcCn011360; Tue, 22 Oct 2002 11:19:39 +0200 Original-Received: from LAPTOP-3.wxs.nl (laptop-3 [10.100.1.191]) by server-1.pragma-ade.nl (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g9M9Ohgq021803; Tue, 22 Oct 2002 11:24:44 +0200 X-Sender: hagen-mail@server-1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Original-To: Olaf Weber In-Reply-To: <87of9n8p89.fsf@infovore.xs4all.nl> X-RAVMilter-Version: 8.4.1(snapshot 20020919) (mail.solcon.nl) Errors-To: ntg-context-admin@ref.vet.uu.nl X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ref.ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:9627 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.comp.tex.context:9627 At 11:19 PM 10/21/2002 +0200, Olaf Weber wrote: >Hans Hagen writes: > > At 08:40 PM 10/20/2002 +0200, Olaf Weber wrote: > >> Hans Hagen writes: > > >>> personally i think that gamma should just use a cont-* file, but with > >>> an ofmt extension; where etex can be distinguished by suffix, omega > >>> cannot, which is a bad thing since now one gets format clashes; > > >> This is an interesting idea, and one I'd be willing to impose on Omega. > > > Thanks! It would help a lot. > >Still, for my peace of mind I'd like to know a bit more of the >background, and why getting Omega to use a different suffix will help >so much. (And does this mean that pdftex and pdfetex should be >modified as well?) it would make sense to give pdftex/pdfetex other extensions as well, just for the sake of consistency on the other hand, a user can generate a cont-en.efmt file with pdfetex which is compatible with cont-en.efmt by etex apart from the pdf support, simply because pdftex is an extension [in the same way, etex is compatible and could have the same suffix, unless in non compatible ** mode] omega is different and not compatible (and not that stable either), and so users would like to use their macro packages (+formats) for both systems, so having an cont-en.efmt for pdfetex alongside cont-en.oft for omega is a good solution or that, in that case texexec --program=omega yourfile would launch omega and omega would look for the oft file itself (users nowadays are not that aware of formats and asking them to generate them ...) so, to be perfect it should be: tex -> fmt etec -> efmt (already) pdftex -> pft pdfetex -> epmt omega -> oft eomega -> eoft nts -> nfmt (already) but since pdftex is compatible is less urgent an alternative is: web2c/pdftex/pdftex.fmt web2c/pdftex/pdfetex.fmt etc Sorry for the mess, but solutions like pdflatex versus latex versus tex makes users think that they are all different tex's while it's the same program with different macros, and pdflatex/latex is actually the same thing apart from the backend. For context, i would prefer to keep cont-en as the one and only name for the english interface version, independent of the texprogram used Hans ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | pragma@wxs.nl Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- information: http://www.pragma-ade.com/roadmap.pdf documentation: http://www.pragma-ade.com/showcase.pdf ------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ref.ntg.nl http://ref.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context