Re: Re: Fonts again in ConTeXt

[Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl>]

At 09:31 AM 3/13/2003 +0100, Patrick Gundlach wrote:

> > the MAP-file is a nice place for the real font selection.
>
>I agree with that. (Did you mean it this way?)

hm, i disagree -) unless you keep your map files with your specific styles 
/ projects

> > How should i tell "normal" users that their font-selection from the
> > document is overwriten since some stupid and wrong decisions have
> > been made in the past.
>
>That is easy: You don't have the real helvetica? Then your dvi
>processor (or pdfTeX) switches back to a substitution. This is the
>way every printer works, that don't have the Linotype fonts built in.

but, subsitutions means ugly results, which means ugly docs, which gives 
tex a bad reputation

>1) the user: he or she requests the typescript [times][..]. What does
>    he want? URW? Or what? IMO I request Times-Roman, and not a
>    substitue.

This is a real tricky area, there are so many times out that if you are not 
specific and embed them (in graphics, docs, etc) you end up in troubles. We 
have a few thousand Corel Draw files, mae on a win95 machine long ago, and 
cannot even open them because the font names changed (distiller 2 accepted 
the eps, distiller 5 doesn't)

>The way with current ConTeXt it is now: I ask for Helvetica and get
>Nimbus Sans. There is no way around this.

unless you map the names alternatively, which you will do for us; just 
prepare the lot and we can discuss it in bremen

{if tex was less powerfull with math/fonts, live would be so much more easy]

Hans
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