auto sizing an intermezzo?

auto sizing an intermezzo?

[Mark A. Lilly]

hi,
I'm a new convert to ConTeXt from Latex, and i have setup an intermezzo.
As i am trying to link everything to my DocBook files, i want to be able to 
move <quotes> over to ConTeXt and place them in an intermezzo and have the 
intermezzo automatically size itself.

So far i have this:
\placeintermezzo
[right]{none}{
\framed
[height=3.8cm,
width=5cm,
background=color,
offset=5pt,
backgroundcolor=quoteBox,
framecolor=quoteBox,
corner=round,
radius=4pt]
{\rbox{here is the quote}}}

But this has hardcoded width and height. How can i set the width and let 
the intermezzo size the height to fit. I tried changing height to 'fit' but 
that didn't work.

Any thoughts?

Thanks,
mark

Re: auto sizing an intermezzo?

[Patrick Gundlach]

"Mark A. Lilly" <mlilly@tinorb.com> writes:

Hi,

> But this has hardcoded width and height. How can i set the width and
> let the intermezzo size the height to fit. I tried changing height to
> 'fit' but that didn't work.

Just leave out the height= and width= in your setup:

\starttext
\placeintermezzo
[right]{none}{
\framed
[background=color,
offset=5pt,
backgroundcolor=quoteBox,
framecolor=quoteBox,
corner=round,
radius=4pt]
{here is the quote}}
\stoptext 



Please post examples that are working by themself. It would help
if I (I can only speak for me...) can just copy and paste the example
and play around with it. In the above, \starttext and \stoptext are
missing, as well as the color definition.

HTH,

Patrick

Re: auto sizing an intermezzo?

[Guy Worthington]

"Mark A. Lilly" <mlilly@tinorb.com> writes:

> hi,
> I'm a new convert to ConTeXt from Latex, and i have setup an intermezzo.
> As i am trying to link everything to my DocBook files, i want to be able to 
> move <quotes> over to ConTeXt and place them in an intermezzo and have the 
> intermezzo automatically size itself.
> 
> So far i have this:
> \placeintermezzo
> [right]{none}{
> \framed
> [height=3.8cm,
> width=5cm,
> background=color,
> offset=5pt,
> backgroundcolor=quoteBox,
> framecolor=quoteBox,
> corner=round,
> radius=4pt]
> {\rbox{here is the quote}}}
> 
> But this has hardcoded width and height. How can i set the width and let 
> the intermezzo size the height to fit. I tried changing height to 'fit' but 
> that didn't work.
> 
> Any thoughts?
> 

You're just in vbox,hbox,vbox, ... ,hbox,vbox purgatory.  When I'm sent
there, I just try every combination of boxes until one works:

-----
\starttext
\placeintermezzo
[right]{none}{
\framed
[%height=3.8cm,
width=5cm,
background=color,
offset=5pt,
backgroundcolor=quoteBox,
framecolor=quoteBox,
corner=round,
radius=4pt]
{\raggedleft here is the quote}}
\stoptext
-----

Re: Re: auto sizing an intermezzo?

[Hans Hagen]

At 16:03 07/04/2003 +0800, you wrote:
>"Mark A. Lilly" <mlilly@tinorb.com> writes:
>
> > hi,
> > I'm a new convert to ConTeXt from Latex, and i have setup an intermezzo.
> > As i am trying to link everything to my DocBook files, i want to be 
> able to
> > move <quotes> over to ConTeXt and place them in an intermezzo and have the
> > intermezzo automatically size itself.
> >
> > So far i have this:
> > \placeintermezzo
> > [right]{none}{
> > \framed
> > [height=3.8cm,
....

if you set the "align" and the height, then the width (when set to fit) 
will be automatically calculated.

Hans
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Re: Re: auto sizing an intermezzo?

[Mark A. Lilly]

greetings

At 12:44 PM 4/8/2003 +0200, you wrote:
>At 16:03 07/04/2003 +0800, you wrote:
>>"Mark A. Lilly" <mlilly@tinorb.com> writes:
>>
>> > hi,
>> > I'm a new convert to ConTeXt from Latex, and i have setup an intermezzo.
>> > As i am trying to link everything to my DocBook files, i want to be 
>> able to
>> > move <quotes> over to ConTeXt and place them in an intermezzo and have the
>> > intermezzo automatically size itself.
>> >
>> > So far i have this:
>> > \placeintermezzo
>> > [right]{none}{
>> > \framed
>> > [height=3.8cm,
>....
>
>if you set the "align" and the height, then the width (when set to fit) 
>will be automatically calculated.

it seems then, that the following should make a narrower box, but for me, 
it's full width, with lots of white space underneath??

%%start intermezzo test
\starttext

\placeintermezzo
[]{none}{
\framed
[
height=4.1cm,
width=fit,
align=right,
framecolor=gray,
offset=5pt,
]{\rbox{\quotation{...the gift is perhaps not strictly or simply one of 
foretelling, but is
rather the power of seeing (if only for a flash) \em{everything at
once}: seeing whole}
\\
--Left Hand of Darkness, Ursula LeGuin}}
}

\stoptext
%%end intermezzo test


thanks,
mark


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Re: auto sizing an intermezzo?

[Patrick Gundlach]

"Mark A. Lilly" <misc@tinorb.com> writes:

Hello Mark,

> it seems then, that the following should make a narrower box, but for
> me, it's full width, with lots of white space underneath??

Oh, you want the height fixed, the text take up all the height and
let the width fit snugly? I am not sure if this is possible easily
with ConTeXt (perhaps - as usual - I am wrong here and Hans has some
magic hidden in one of his source codes). Is this possible with
LaTeX? Then, could you send me a small test file off list?


Patrick

Re: Re: auto sizing an intermezzo?

[Hans Hagen]

At 14:33 08/04/2003 -0700, Mark A. Lilly wrote:
>greetings
>
>At 12:44 PM 4/8/2003 +0200, you wrote:
>>At 16:03 07/04/2003 +0800, you wrote:
>>>"Mark A. Lilly" <mlilly@tinorb.com> writes:
>>>
>>> > hi,
>>> > I'm a new convert to ConTeXt from Latex, and i have setup an intermezzo.
>>> > As i am trying to link everything to my DocBook files, i want to be 
>>> able to
>>> > move <quotes> over to ConTeXt and place them in an intermezzo and 
>>> have the
>>> > intermezzo automatically size itself.
>>> >
>>> > So far i have this:
>>> > \placeintermezzo
>>> > [right]{none}{
>>> > \framed
>>> > [height=3.8cm,
>>....
>>
>>if you set the "align" and the height, then the width (when set to fit) 
>>will be automatically calculated.
>
>it seems then, that the following should make a narrower box, but for me, 
>it's full width, with lots of white space underneath??
>
>%%start intermezzo test
>\starttext
>
>\placeintermezzo
>[]{none}{
>\framed
>[
>height=4.1cm,
>width=fit,
>align=right,
>framecolor=gray,
>offset=5pt,
>]{\rbox{\quotation{...the gift is perhaps not strictly or simply one of 
>foretelling, but is
>rather the power of seeing (if only for a flash) \em{everything at
>once}: seeing whole}
>\\
>--Left Hand of Darkness, Ursula LeGuin}}
>}
>
>\stoptext
>%%end intermezzo test

- say \showframe
- remove the \rbox

Hans
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some ConTeXt remarks

[Patrick Gundlach]

"Mark A. Lilly" <misc@tinorb.com> writes:


[...]

> \quotation{...the gift is perhaps not strictly or simply one of 
> foretelling, but is
> rather the power of seeing (if only for a flash) \em{everything at
> once}: seeing whole}

I hope you don't mind me adding two comments: replace ... with either
\unknown or \dots, so you get the spacing right. And \em{ ... } does
not work the way you might think; a) it is {\em .... }, the TeX way
and b) \em defaults to slanted; \emph{...} in LaTeX defaults to
italic. Oh, yet antother comment: you might think about using italic
correction before closing the group when you use \sl or \it.

Patrick