* newbie question: greek in ConTeXt? @ 2003-05-12 10:16 Thomas A. Schmitz 2003-05-15 17:23 ` Giuseppe Bilotta 2003-05-16 12:24 ` Giuseppe Bilotta 0 siblings, 2 replies; 13+ messages in thread From: Thomas A. Schmitz @ 2003-05-12 10:16 UTC (permalink / raw) After using LateX for a while, I became interested in ConTeXt and was immediately fascinated by the ease of use and the logical structure of commands. However, for my job, I need to typeset in ancient Greek (politoniko). There are a couple of packages for LaTeX that can do that (Teubner, psgreek e.g.), but can it be done in ConTeXt? I already stumble whenever I try to set the language to Greek; I get a couple of error messages (I use the standard teTex-distribution on a Mac with OS X 10.2). Can anybody point me to helpful documents or discussions? Thanks a lot! -- Thomas A. Schmitz Philologisches Seminar Universitaet Bonn Am Hof 1 e 53113 Bonn Germany ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
* Re: newbie question: greek in ConTeXt? 2003-05-12 10:16 newbie question: greek in ConTeXt? Thomas A. Schmitz @ 2003-05-15 17:23 ` Giuseppe Bilotta 2003-05-15 21:42 ` Idris S Hamid 2003-05-16 12:24 ` Giuseppe Bilotta 1 sibling, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread From: Giuseppe Bilotta @ 2003-05-15 17:23 UTC (permalink / raw) Monday, May 12, 2003 Thomas A. Schmitz wrote: TAS> After using LateX for a while, I became interested in TAS> ConTeXt and was immediately fascinated by the ease of use TAS> and the logical structure of commands. However, for my TAS> job, I need to typeset in ancient Greek (politoniko). TAS> There are a couple of packages for LaTeX that can do that TAS> (Teubner, psgreek e.g.), but can it be done in ConTeXt? I TAS> already stumble whenever I try to set the language to TAS> Greek; I get a couple of error messages (I use the TAS> standard teTex-distribution on a Mac with OS X 10.2). Can TAS> anybody point me to helpful documents or discussions? TAS> Thanks a lot! What kind of errors do you get? Some time ago I did give the thing a quick try, and could do something by using Gamma (ConTeXt compiled with an Omega engine), and could do something; but since the greek-relevant OCPs in Omega are defective, I dropped the thing. Something that could probably be done is setting up a typescript to use, for example, Claudio Beccari's fonts (cbgreek). Also, there may be some Greek ConTeXt user (maybe the one who contributed the Greek-specific language things?). He might know more. (Sorry for the quick answer, I will try to come out with a draft for the cbgreek typescripts later :>) -- Giuseppe "Oblomov" Bilotta ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
* Re: newbie question: greek in ConTeXt? 2003-05-15 17:23 ` Giuseppe Bilotta @ 2003-05-15 21:42 ` Idris S Hamid 2003-05-15 22:03 ` Re[2]: " Giuseppe Bilotta 0 siblings, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread From: Idris S Hamid @ 2003-05-15 21:42 UTC (permalink / raw) Giuseppe Bilotta wrote: > Some time ago I did give the thing a quick try, and could do > something by using Gamma (ConTeXt compiled with an Omega > engine), and could do something; but since the greek-relevant > OCPs in Omega are defective, I dropped the thing. I'd be curious to know what was wrong with those otp's (not that I hardly ever use greek). Best Idris ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
* Re[2]: newbie question: greek in ConTeXt? 2003-05-15 21:42 ` Idris S Hamid @ 2003-05-15 22:03 ` Giuseppe Bilotta 2003-05-17 19:09 ` Idris S Hamid 2003-05-17 19:40 ` newbie question: greek in ConTeXt? Idris S Hamid 0 siblings, 2 replies; 13+ messages in thread From: Giuseppe Bilotta @ 2003-05-15 22:03 UTC (permalink / raw) Thursday, May 15, 2003 Idris S Hamid wrote: ISH> Giuseppe Bilotta wrote: >> Some time ago I did give the thing a quick try, and could do >> something by using Gamma (ConTeXt compiled with an Omega >> engine), and could do something; but since the greek-relevant >> OCPs in Omega are defective, I dropped the thing. ISH> I'd be curious to know what was wrong with those otp's (not that I ISH> hardly ever use greek). Off the top of my head: some obvious combinations were missing/didn't seem to work (example: =A, <r, A| etc), other were plain wrong (again, with capital alpha, some spirit/accent combinations failed). BTW, Idris, I locally made a few changes to m-gamma, partly to make it more ConTeXtish, and partly to make it capable of using the latest OTPs (those from the 1.2x series, which anyway don't seem to fix the problem); you may want to have a look at it and "officialize" the changes. Shall I send it to you? -- Giuseppe "Oblomov" Bilotta ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
* Re: newbie question: greek in ConTeXt? 2003-05-15 22:03 ` Re[2]: " Giuseppe Bilotta @ 2003-05-17 19:09 ` Idris S Hamid 2003-05-17 20:09 ` Hans Hagen 2003-05-17 19:40 ` newbie question: greek in ConTeXt? Idris S Hamid 1 sibling, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread From: Idris S Hamid @ 2003-05-17 19:09 UTC (permalink / raw) Giuseppe Bilotta wrote: > BTW, Idris, I locally made a few changes to m-gamma, partly to > make it more ConTeXtish, and partly to make it capable of using > the latest OTPs (those from the 1.2x series, which anyway don't > seem to fix the problem); you may want to have a look at it and > "officialize" the changes. Shall I send it to you? Sure, I'll be happy to look at it. But I'd also be happy to turn over maintanence of m-gamma to you (and Hans), since u're much more of an expert in these things and I'm still a rank amateur:-) Off-topic: By the way, we need a torture file for eOmega. I'm still a little worried that the TRIP-fix may have broken some of the Omega-specific features, and a good torture file would help immensely in noticing these things. I'll try to whip something up in addition to Omega's torture.tex (which I could never get to work anyway...) Best Idris ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
* Re: newbie question: greek in ConTeXt? 2003-05-17 19:09 ` Idris S Hamid @ 2003-05-17 20:09 ` Hans Hagen 2003-05-17 23:27 ` Re[2]: " Giuseppe Bilotta 2003-05-18 20:14 ` eOmega for Gamma [Was Re: newbie question: greek in ConTeXt?] Idris S Hamid 0 siblings, 2 replies; 13+ messages in thread From: Hans Hagen @ 2003-05-17 20:09 UTC (permalink / raw) At 13:09 17/05/2003 -0600, you wrote: >Giuseppe Bilotta wrote: > > > BTW, Idris, I locally made a few changes to m-gamma, partly to > > make it more ConTeXtish, and partly to make it capable of using > > the latest OTPs (those from the 1.2x series, which anyway don't > > seem to fix the problem); you may want to have a look at it and > > "officialize" the changes. Shall I send it to you? > >Sure, I'll be happy to look at it. But I'd also be happy to turn over >maintanence of m-gamma to you (and Hans), since u're much more of an expert >in these things and I'm still a rank amateur:-) as soon as you have m-gamma complete i'll move thinsg to the core of context >Off-topic: By the way, we need a torture file for eOmega. I'm still a >little worried that the TRIP-fix may have broken some of the Omega-specific what tripping the problem? it may be an unimportant one >features, and a good torture file would help immensely in noticing these >things. I'll try to whip something up in addition to Omega's torture.tex >(which I could never get to work anyway...) forget about such tests, the real test for eomega is a 300 page document with average memory settings; the main thing is to make sure that the otp parser does not keep on reading whole files Hans ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | pragma@wxs.nl Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- information: http://www.pragma-ade.com/roadmap.pdf documentation: http://www.pragma-ade.com/showcase.pdf ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
* Re[2]: newbie question: greek in ConTeXt? 2003-05-17 20:09 ` Hans Hagen @ 2003-05-17 23:27 ` Giuseppe Bilotta 2003-05-18 17:58 ` Hans Hagen 2003-05-18 20:14 ` eOmega for Gamma [Was Re: newbie question: greek in ConTeXt?] Idris S Hamid 1 sibling, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread From: Giuseppe Bilotta @ 2003-05-17 23:27 UTC (permalink / raw) Saturday, May 17, 2003 Hans Hagen wrote: HH> At 13:09 17/05/2003 -0600, Idris S Hamid wrote: >>Giuseppe Bilotta wrote: >> >> > BTW, Idris, I locally made a few changes to m-gamma, partly to >> > make it more ConTeXtish, and partly to make it capable of using >> > the latest OTPs (those from the 1.2x series, which anyway don't >> > seem to fix the problem); you may want to have a look at it and >> > "officialize" the changes. Shall I send it to you? >> >>Sure, I'll be happy to look at it. But I'd also be happy to turn over >>maintanence of m-gamma to you (and Hans), since u're much more of an expert >>in these things and I'm still a rank amateur:-) HH> as soon as you have m-gamma complete i'll move thinsg to the core of context Two things: supporting gamma is for me somewhat a problem, because I have *very* limited knowledge of the multilingual stuff which is in it. The only fixes I implemented were some "ConTeXtization" of a few things which had remained "LaTeXish" or even TeXish in a couple of cases. Anyway, the current m-gamma thing can only be a temporary solution: the whole thing really needs to be redesigned from scratch with ConTeXt in mind, and ConTeXt-specific OTPs should be designed. >>Off-topic: By the way, we need a torture file for eOmega. I'm still a >>little worried that the TRIP-fix may have broken some of the Omega-specific HH> what tripping the problem? it may be an unimportant one It was an extremely important one: it popped up in many real-world cases (at least according to Alan). The fix should not break anything, because it consisted in a removal of a routine which was used but without side-effects (at least that I could see). There other tripping problems (i.e. I *lied* when I said e-Omega can now trip correctly), but these seem to be major and will be addressed in the (hopefully near) future. >>features, and a good torture file would help immensely in noticing these >>things. I'll try to whip something up in addition to Omega's torture.tex >>(which I could never get to work anyway...) HH> forget about such tests, the real test for eomega is a 300 page document HH> with average memory settings; the main thing is to make sure that the otp HH> parser does not keep on reading whole files Do you have some such a test file? If you provide a link, I can try it here. Anyway, we do need real torture tests, possibly as heinous as TRIP and ETRIP (which BTW reminds me I should try to ETRIP e-Omega ...). -- Giuseppe "Oblomov" Bilotta ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
* Re[2]: newbie question: greek in ConTeXt? 2003-05-17 23:27 ` Re[2]: " Giuseppe Bilotta @ 2003-05-18 17:58 ` Hans Hagen 2003-05-18 19:50 ` Re[3]: " Giuseppe Bilotta 0 siblings, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread From: Hans Hagen @ 2003-05-18 17:58 UTC (permalink / raw) At 01:27 18/05/2003 +0200, you wrote: >HH> forget about such tests, the real test for eomega is a 300 page document >HH> with average memory settings; the main thing is to make sure that the otp >HH> parser does not keep on reading whole files > >Do you have some such a test file? If you provide a link, I can >try it here. i'll see if i can do some tests when fabrice posts the binary >Anyway, we do need real torture tests, possibly as heinous as >TRIP and ETRIP (which BTW reminds me I should try to ETRIP >e-Omega ...). just wondering: do you use etex's >255 registers or just omega's native ones? Hans ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | pragma@wxs.nl Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- information: http://www.pragma-ade.com/roadmap.pdf documentation: http://www.pragma-ade.com/showcase.pdf ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
* Re[3]: newbie question: greek in ConTeXt? 2003-05-18 17:58 ` Hans Hagen @ 2003-05-18 19:50 ` Giuseppe Bilotta 0 siblings, 0 replies; 13+ messages in thread From: Giuseppe Bilotta @ 2003-05-18 19:50 UTC (permalink / raw) Sunday, May 18, 2003 Hans Hagen wrote: HH> At 01:27 18/05/2003 +0200, you wrote: >>HH> forget about such tests, the real test for eomega is a 300 page document >>HH> with average memory settings; the main thing is to make sure that the otp >>HH> parser does not keep on reading whole files >> >>Do you have some such a test file? If you provide a link, I can >>try it here. HH> i'll see if i can do some tests when fabrice posts the binary >>Anyway, we do need real torture tests, possibly as heinous as >>TRIP and ETRIP (which BTW reminds me I should try to ETRIP >>e-Omega ...). HH> just wondering: do you use etex's >255 registers or just omega's native ones? I use Omega's native ones, mostly. The only exception is that \marks registers (these follow the e-TeX implementation). -- Giuseppe "Oblomov" Bilotta ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
* eOmega for Gamma [Was Re: newbie question: greek in ConTeXt?] 2003-05-17 20:09 ` Hans Hagen 2003-05-17 23:27 ` Re[2]: " Giuseppe Bilotta @ 2003-05-18 20:14 ` Idris S Hamid 1 sibling, 0 replies; 13+ messages in thread From: Idris S Hamid @ 2003-05-18 20:14 UTC (permalink / raw) [Please cc Alan for this thread.] Hans Hagen wrote: > >features, and a good torture file would help immensely in noticing these > >things. I'll try to whip something up in addition to Omega's torture.tex > >(which I could never get to work anyway...) > > forget about such tests, the real test for eomega is a 300 page document > with average memory settings; the main thing is to make sure that the otp > parser does not keep on reading whole files I have some pretty intense stuff here, but unfortunately the otp's and fonts are proprietary so we can't use them for general testing. But I have some all-vowelized Arabic stuff extending over a hundred pages that generally works fine. Some of it uses EDMAC, which really helps to tax the memory etc. Fully vowelized Arabic is the most taxing stuff; I guess I can port some of my stuff to the default Omega font (omarb) for testing, though the results will look chaotic unless I write new otp's for that font (ugh). On the other hand, since u and gb don't know Arabic :-( that will not matter at all. I'll try to put something together in the next two weeks (grading, teaching Summer session, going to DC for a speech r keeping me tied up 4 now). Best Idris ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
* Re: newbie question: greek in ConTeXt? 2003-05-15 22:03 ` Re[2]: " Giuseppe Bilotta 2003-05-17 19:09 ` Idris S Hamid @ 2003-05-17 19:40 ` Idris S Hamid 2003-05-17 20:07 ` Hans Hagen 1 sibling, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread From: Idris S Hamid @ 2003-05-17 19:40 UTC (permalink / raw) One more thing: if you could find a way to get rid of this input file in m-gamma (which is just a port/improvement of omega.sty) grlccode.tex Hans will be quite happy. But since I don't know Greek I don't know what to do with it. Best Idris ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
* Re: newbie question: greek in ConTeXt? 2003-05-17 19:40 ` newbie question: greek in ConTeXt? Idris S Hamid @ 2003-05-17 20:07 ` Hans Hagen 0 siblings, 0 replies; 13+ messages in thread From: Hans Hagen @ 2003-05-17 20:07 UTC (permalink / raw) At 13:40 17/05/2003 -0600, you wrote: >One more thing: > >if you could find a way to get rid of this input file in m-gamma (which is >just a port/improvement of omega.sty) > >grlccode.tex > >Hans will be quite happy. But since I don't know Greek I don't know what to >do with it. non-omega greek will be available soon so that's a starting point Hans ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | pragma@wxs.nl Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- information: http://www.pragma-ade.com/roadmap.pdf documentation: http://www.pragma-ade.com/showcase.pdf ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
* Re: newbie question: greek in ConTeXt? 2003-05-12 10:16 newbie question: greek in ConTeXt? Thomas A. Schmitz 2003-05-15 17:23 ` Giuseppe Bilotta @ 2003-05-16 12:24 ` Giuseppe Bilotta 1 sibling, 0 replies; 13+ messages in thread From: Giuseppe Bilotta @ 2003-05-16 12:24 UTC (permalink / raw) [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 1011 bytes --] Monday, May 12, 2003 Thomas A. Schmitz wrote: TAS> After using LateX for a while, I became interested in TAS> ConTeXt and was immediately fascinated by the ease of use TAS> and the logical structure of commands. However, for my TAS> job, I need to typeset in ancient Greek (politoniko). TAS> There are a couple of packages for LaTeX that can do that TAS> (Teubner, psgreek e.g.), but can it be done in ConTeXt? I TAS> already stumble whenever I try to set the language to TAS> Greek; I get a couple of error messages (I use the TAS> standard teTex-distribution on a Mac with OS X 10.2). Can TAS> anybody point me to helpful documents or discussions? Ok, I did some quick&dirty job which you may want to test there; it requires the cbgreek fonts, though (having never used Teubner or psgreek, I have no idea how those work). Please see the attacked cbgreek.tex (containing the typescript definition for greek serif only, yet) and greektest.tex (containing an example document). -- Giuseppe "Oblomov" Bilotta [-- Attachment #2: cbgreek.tex --] [-- Type: application/octet-stream, Size: 4169 bytes --] \starttypescript [serif] [cb-greek] [name] \definefontsynonym [CBGreek-Regular-Medium-Normal] [grmn] \definefontsynonym [CBGreek-Regular-Medium-Oblique] [grmo] \definefontsynonym [CBGreek-Regular-Medium-Italic] [grmi] \definefontsynonym [CBGreek-Regular-Medium-UprightItalic] [grmu] \definefontsynonym [CBGreek-Regular-Medium-Caps] [grmc] \definefontsynonym [CBGreek-Regular-Medium-Leipzig] [grml] \definefontsynonym [CBGreek-Regular-Medium-Roman] [grmr] \definefontsynonym [CBGreek-Regular-Bold-Normal] [grbn] \definefontsynonym [CBGreek-Regular-Bold-Oblique] [grbo] \definefontsynonym [CBGreek-Regular-Bold-Italic] [grbi] \definefontsynonym [CBGreek-Regular-Bold-UprightItalic] [grbu] \definefontsynonym [CBGreek-Regular-Bold-Caps] [grbc] \definefontsynonym [CBGreek-Regular-Bold-Leipzig] [grbl] \definefontsynonym [CBGreek-Regular-Bold-Roman] [grbr] \definefontsynonym [CBGreek-Regular-BoldExtended-Normal] [grxn] \definefontsynonym [CBGreek-Regular-BoldExtended-Oblique] [grxo] \definefontsynonym [CBGreek-Regular-BoldExtended-Italic] [grxi] \definefontsynonym [CBGreek-Regular-BoldExtended-UprightItalic] [grxu] \definefontsynonym [CBGreek-Regular-BoldExtended-Caps] [grxc] \definefontsynonym [CBGreek-Regular-BoldExtended-Leipzig] [grxl] \definefontsynonym [CBGreek-Regular-BoldExtended-Roman] [grxr] \definefontsynonym [Serif] [GBGreek-Regular-Medium-Normal] \definefontsynonym [SerifSlanted] [GBGreek-Regular-Medium-Oblique] \definefontsynonym [SerifItalic] [GBGreek-Regular-Medium-Italic] \definefontsynonym [SerifCaps] [GBGreek-Regular-Medium-Caps] \definefontsynonym [SerifBold] [GBGreek-Regular-BoldExtended-Normal] \definefontsynonym [SerifBoldSlanted] [GBGreek-Regular-BoldExtended-Oblique] \definefontsynonym [SerifBoldItalic] [GBGreek-Regular-BoldExtended-Italic] \definefontsynonym [SerifBoldCaps] [GBGreek-Regular-BoldExtended-Caps] \stoptypescript \starttypescript [serif] [cb-greek] [size] % Please note that we use Bold Extended instead of Bold \definebodyfont [5pt] [rm] [tf=grmn0500, sl=grmo0500, it=grmi0500, sc=grmc0500, bf=grxn0500, bs=grxo0500, bi=grxi0500] \definebodyfont [6pt] [rm] [tf=grmn0600, sl=grmo0600, it=grmi0600, sc=grmc0600, bf=grxn0600, bs=grxo0600, bi=grxi0600] \definebodyfont [7pt] [rm] [tf=grmn0700, sl=grmo0700, it=grmi0700, sc=grmc0700, bf=grxn0700, bs=grxo0700, bi=grxi0700] \definebodyfont [8pt] [rm] [tf=grmn0800, sl=grmo0800, it=grmi0800, sc=grmc0800, bf=grxn0800, bs=grxo0800, bi=grxi0800] \definebodyfont [9pt] [rm] [tf=grmn0900, sl=grmo0900, it=grmi0900, sc=grmc0900, bf=grxn0900, bs=grxo0900, bi=grxi0900] \definebodyfont [10pt] [rm] [tf=grmn1000, sl=grmo1000, it=grmi1000, sc=grmc1000, bf=grxn1000, bs=grxo1000, bi=grxi1000] \definebodyfont [10.95pt] [rm] [tf=grmn1095, sl=grmo1095, it=grmi1095, sc=grmc1095, bf=grxn1095, bs=grxo1095, bi=grxi1095] \definebodyfont [12pt] [rm] [tf=grmn1200, sl=grmo1200, it=grmi1200, sc=grmc1200, bf=grxn1200, bs=grxo1200, bi=grxi1200] \definebodyfont [14.40pt] [rm] [tf=grmn1440, sl=grmo1440, it=grmi1440, sc=grmc1440, bf=grxn1440, bs=grxo1440, bi=grxi1440] \stoptypescript \starttypescript [CBGreek] \definebodyfontenvironment [cbgreek] [default] [] \definetypeface [cbgreek] [rm] [serif] [cb-greek] [cb-greek] \stoptypescript [-- Attachment #3: greektest.tex --] [-- Type: application/octet-stream, Size: 1715 bytes --] \usetypescriptfile[cbgreek] \usetypescript [all] [cbgreek] \def\enablegreek{\language[greek]\catcode`~=\other\catcode`|=\other} \def\startgreek{\par\begingroup\setupbodyfont[cbgreek]\enablegreek} \let\stopgreek\endgroup \def\greek{\groupedcommand{\switchtobodyfont[cbgreek]\enablegreek}{}} \mainlanguage[english] \starttext We can easily use plain English for normal text, and then switch to greek when we want; as a first try we type the lower and upper case 26 letters of the latin alphabet and see how they come out in greek: \startgreek a b c d e f g h i j k l m n o p q r s t u v w x y z A B C D E F G H I J K L M N O P Q R S T U V W X Y Z \stopgreek As it can be observed, some uppercase letters have strange outcomes; also, j gives \greek{j} and c gives the end-of-word sigma \greek{c}; interestingly, s gives either the normal sigma or the end-of-word one, depending on whether it's at the of the word or not: \greek{satrapws}. Of course we can use the various diacritical signs: accents (\greek{`a, 'a, ~a}), breathings (\greek{<r, >w, a"}) and subscribed iotas (\greek{a|, h|, w|}) (these last are pretty ugly in my opinion); observe how they automatically get the correct position with uppercase letters: (\greek{`A, 'A, ~A, <A, >A, A|}). Can the thing be used for serious work? \startgreek >'Andra moi >'ennepe, Mo~usa, pol'utropon, >'os m'ala poll`a\hfill\break pl'agqjh, >epe`i Tro'ihs <er`on ptol'iejron >'eperse;\hfill\break poll~wn d" >anjr'wpwn >'iden >'astea ka`i n'oon >'egnw,\hfill\break poll`a d" <'o g" >en p'ontw| p'ajen >'algea <`on kat`a jum'on,\hfill\break >arn'umenos <'hn te yuq`hn ka`i n'oston <eta'irwn. \stopgreek \stoptext ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
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