* Soul Package in ConTeXt
@ 2003-09-17 11:52 Steffen Wolfrum
2003-09-17 12:20 ` Hans Hagen
2003-09-17 12:29 ` Patrick Gundlach
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From: Steffen Wolfrum @ 2003-09-17 11:52 UTC (permalink / raw)
Because of looking for a nice letterspacing solution I had a look at
the LaTeX's soul.sty.
Melchior Franz wrote that it should also work with ConTeXt:
> The soul package
> Melchior FRANZ
> May 29, 2002
> Abstract
> This article describes the soul package1, which provides h y p h e n -
> a t a b l e l e t t e r s p a c i n g ( s p a c i n g o u t ) ,
>underlining and some
> derivatives such as overstriking and highlighting. Although the package is
> optimized for LATEX2", it also works with Plain TEX and with other flavors
> of TEX like, for instance, ConTEXt.
But how?
\input soul.sty
gives me in ConTeXt:
> (/Users/steffen/Library/texmf/tex/latex/misc/soul.sty
> ! Undefined control sequence.
> l.49 \NeedsTeXFormat
> {LaTeX2e}
> ?
So what what did he mean by "works with"?
What is the right way?
Thank you for any reply,
Steffen
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* Re: Soul Package in ConTeXt
2003-09-17 11:52 Soul Package in ConTeXt Steffen Wolfrum
@ 2003-09-17 12:20 ` Hans Hagen
2003-09-17 12:29 ` Patrick Gundlach
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From: Hans Hagen @ 2003-09-17 12:20 UTC (permalink / raw)
At 13:52 17/09/2003 +0200, you wrote:
>Because of looking for a nice letterspacing solution I had a look at the
>LaTeX's soul.sty.
>
>Melchior Franz wrote that it should also work with ConTeXt:
>
>> The soul package
>> Melchior FRANZ
>> May 29, 2002
>> Abstract
>> This article describes the soul package1, which provides h y p h e n -
>> a t a b l e l e t t e r s p a c i n g ( s p a c i n g o u t ) ,
>> underlining and some
>> derivatives such as overstriking and highlighting. Although the package is
>> optimized for LATEX2", it also works with Plain TEX and with other flavors
>> of TEX like, for instance, ConTEXt.
>
>
>But how?
>
>\input soul.sty
>
>gives me in ConTeXt:
>
>> (/Users/steffen/Library/texmf/tex/latex/misc/soul.sty
>> ! Undefined control sequence.
>> l.49 \NeedsTeXFormat
>> {LaTeX2e}
>> ?
you can take a look in core-fnt.tex and supp-fun which has streched, all
kinds of underline, dropped caps and alike
Hans
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* Re: Soul Package in ConTeXt
2003-09-17 11:52 Soul Package in ConTeXt Steffen Wolfrum
2003-09-17 12:20 ` Hans Hagen
@ 2003-09-17 12:29 ` Patrick Gundlach
2003-09-19 10:07 ` Patrick Gundlach
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From: Patrick Gundlach @ 2003-09-17 12:29 UTC (permalink / raw)
Cc: TeX on Mac OS X Mailing List, ntg-context, a8603365
Steffen Wolfrum <xmailings@estfiles.de> writes:
Hi,
> But how?
>
> \input soul.sty
>
> gives me in ConTeXt:
>
>> (/Users/steffen/Library/texmf/tex/latex/misc/soul.sty
>> ! Undefined control sequence.
>> l.49 \NeedsTeXFormat
>> {LaTeX2e}
>> ?
this is because in core-mis.tex, ConTeXt defines \documentclass. I
wonder why. This works, but I don't know about any drawbacks:
\starttext
\let\documentclass\undefined
\input soul.sty
\textul{foo}
\stoptext
But: (this is for Melchior Franz) IMO there is a newcommand* in
soul.sty where it does not belong (line 89):
\newskip\SOUL@spaceskip
\newif\ifSOUL@ignorespaces
\newcommand*\soulomit{\noexpand\soulomit}
\def\SOUL@stopM{\SOUL@stop}
\let\SOUL@stop\relax
$Id: soul.dtx,v 1.82 2002/05/07 22:09:30 m Exp $
If you replace it with \def{..} everything looks fine.
Patrick
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* Re: Soul Package in ConTeXt
2003-09-17 12:29 ` Patrick Gundlach
@ 2003-09-19 10:07 ` Patrick Gundlach
2003-09-19 10:42 ` Hans Hagen
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From: Patrick Gundlach @ 2003-09-19 10:07 UTC (permalink / raw)
Patrick Gundlach <pg@levana.de> writes:
> this is because in core-mis.tex, ConTeXt defines \documentclass. I
> wonder why.
Actually, I still wonder why. Could anyone enlighten me?
Patrick
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* Re: Re: Soul Package in ConTeXt
2003-09-19 10:07 ` Patrick Gundlach
@ 2003-09-19 10:42 ` Hans Hagen
2003-09-19 12:22 ` Patrick Gundlach
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From: Hans Hagen @ 2003-09-19 10:42 UTC (permalink / raw)
At 12:07 19/09/2003 +0200, you wrote:
>Patrick Gundlach <pg@levana.de> writes:
>
> > this is because in core-mis.tex, ConTeXt defines \documentclass. I
> > wonder why.
>
>Actually, I still wonder why. Could anyone enlighten me?
as a trigger point for a message
Hans
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* Re: Soul Package in ConTeXt
2003-09-19 10:42 ` Hans Hagen
@ 2003-09-19 12:22 ` Patrick Gundlach
2003-09-19 16:49 ` Hans Hagen
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From: Patrick Gundlach @ 2003-09-19 12:22 UTC (permalink / raw)
Hi,
>> > this is because in core-mis.tex, ConTeXt defines \documentclass. I
>> > wonder why.
>>
>>Actually, I still wonder why. Could anyone enlighten me?
>
> as a trigger point for a message
You mean the
system : try LaTeX
message?
Would it break anything to remove the LaTeX check?
Patrick
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* Re: Re: Soul Package in ConTeXt
2003-09-19 12:22 ` Patrick Gundlach
@ 2003-09-19 16:49 ` Hans Hagen
2003-09-21 12:55 ` Patrick Gundlach
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From: Hans Hagen @ 2003-09-19 16:49 UTC (permalink / raw)
At 14:22 19/09/2003 +0200, Patrick Gundlach wrote:
>Hi,
>
> >> > this is because in core-mis.tex, ConTeXt defines \documentclass. I
> >> > wonder why.
> >>
> >>Actually, I still wonder why. Could anyone enlighten me?
> >
> > as a trigger point for a message
>
>You mean the
>system : try LaTeX
>message?
>
>Would it break anything to remove the LaTeX check?
no, apart from being less polite to ths confused user ; btw, why does it
need to be removed?
Hans
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* Re: Soul Package in ConTeXt
2003-09-19 16:49 ` Hans Hagen
@ 2003-09-21 12:55 ` Patrick Gundlach
2003-09-21 14:18 ` Patrick Gundlach
2003-09-21 14:39 ` Hans Hagen
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From: Patrick Gundlach @ 2003-09-21 12:55 UTC (permalink / raw)
Hi,
>>Would it break anything to remove the LaTeX check?
>
> no, apart from being less polite to ths confused user ; btw, why does
> it need to be removed?
Well, it does not really have to be removed. The only thing that I
think is unnecessary is that ConTeXt defines \documentclass. IMO it
is not a good habit that any other macro package besides LaTeX
defines \documentclass (unless, of course, absoultely necessary). So
my suggestion is to use something like
\ifx\documentclass\undefined\else
\global\def\documentclass {\showmessage\m!systems3\empty\stoptext}
\fi
instead. We can forget about \documentstyle, since latex2.09 is
ancient history.
There might be more tex-macros out ther than soul.sty that are mostly
macro package independant but looks for LaTeX by checking for
\documentclass.
Patrick
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