Pagebreaks

Pagebreaks

[Thomas A.Schmitz]

Dear colisters,
is there a way to tel Context to be dumb about pagebreaks? I mean to 
say "fill every page with the exact same number of lines, no matter 
what, regardless of clubs, widows, women and children"? Here's my setup:
\setuplayout[lines=17,footer=0.7cm]
\starttext
\clubpenalty=0
\widowpenalty=0
Nevertheless, some pages are 1 or even three lines shorter than the 
rest (there are no tables, floats, pictures etc.). Can this be 
prevented?
Thanks
Thomas

Re: Pagebreaks

[Hans Hagen]

At 10:42 26/09/2003 +0200, you wrote:
>Dear colisters,
>is there a way to tel Context to be dumb about pagebreaks? I mean to say 
>"fill every page with the exact same number of lines, no matter what, 
>regardless of clubs, widows, women and children"? Here's my setup:
>\setuplayout[lines=17,footer=0.7cm]
>\starttext
>\clubpenalty=0
>\widowpenalty=0
>Nevertheless, some pages are 1 or even three lines shorter than the rest 
>(there are no tables, floats, pictures etc.). Can this be prevented?

   \def\defaultwidowpenalty{0}
   \def\defaultclubpenalty{0}

or maybe:

   setuplayout[grid=yes]

or in the beta i just posted:

\startsetups [NeverMind]

   \setups[*reset]

   \widowpenalty\zerocount
   \clubpenalty \zerocount

\stopsetups

\setuplayout[setups=NeverMind]


or ...

Hans
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Re: Pagebreaks

[Thomas A.Schmitz]

On Friday, September 26, 2003, at 06:15  PM, Hans Hagen wrote:

>   \def\defaultwidowpenalty{0}
>   \def\defaultclubpenalty{0}
>
>
Thanks! This command alleviated the problem without eliminating all the 
"shorter" pages. \setuplayout[grid=yes] actually made it a lot worse; 
almost every page was several lines short. I suspect it might have 
something to with itemizations (of which there are quite a few); this 
seems to confuse (Con)TeX(t).

Re: Pagebreaks

[Patrick Gundlach]

"Thomas A.Schmitz" <thomas.schmitz@uni-bonn.de> writes:

> Thanks! This command alleviated the problem without eliminating all
> the "shorter" pages. \setuplayout[grid=yes] actually made it a lot
> worse; almost every page was several lines short. I suspect it might
> have something to with itemizations (of which there are quite a few);
> this seems to confuse (Con)TeX(t).

If you really want your problem solved, you should post an example. 

Patrick
-- 
Why is it so difficult to post a minimal but complete example????

Re: Re: Pagebreaks

[Thomas A.Schmitz]

Hi Patrick,
feeling a bit grumpy this morning, are we? ;-)
Well, it is kind of difficult to provide a minmal example because, as 
the nature of the problem involves, it would necessarily be more than 
~2-4 pages of text. If you're interested, I can send you a file 
off-list, but I don't think I should bother everybody here with long 
excerpts.
Thanks for your interest, and best wishes
Thomas

Re: Pagebreaks

[Patrick Gundlach]

"Thomas A.Schmitz" <thomas.schmitz@uni-bonn.de> writes:

Hello,

> feeling a bit grumpy this morning, are we? ;-)

No. Not really. Do I make such an impression? ;-) Perhaps it is my
'smart-ass-day'... 

> Well, it is kind of difficult to provide a minmal example because, as
> the nature of the problem involves, it would necessarily be more than
> ~2-4 pages of text. 

there is always \dorecurse{#}{what} and \input myfavoritefile 

> If you're interested, I can send you a file off-list, but I don't
> think I should bother everybody here with long excerpts.

You can do that. 



Patrick
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You are your own rainbow!

Re: Pagebreaks

[Thomas A.Schmitz]

Kudos to Patrick for pointing out what was wrong with my file--he 
helped me immensely, and I'm very grateful to him. The solution is: in 
addition to \clubpenalty and \widowpenalty, there is also 
\brokenpenalty, which enforces the good old typographical rule that no 
page should be broken after a hyphenated word. When I set it to 0, all 
my pages had exactly the same number of lines. Thanks to Patrick, and 
may others find it useful!
Thomas