setupcaptions

setupcaptions

[Meer, H. van der]

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I want to make my figure captions both slanted and small, or bold and small,etc.
The wiki has for setupcaptions:

headstyle normal, bold, .. , small, ..
style     normal, bold, .. , small, ..

I therefore expected to work the following setup:

\setupcaptions[headstyle={slanted,small},style={bold,small}]
\starttext
\placefigure{A dummy figure}{\externalfigure[dummy]}
Caption test.
\stoptext

But no, two seems too much. style={bold} does work and style={small} but style = {bold,small} does not. From the general principles of ConTeXt's parameter handling I would have expected this to work.
Of course I could have used style={\bf\switchtobodyfont[small]}, but I would prefer to refrain from low level font commands when possible.

I am right the setupcaptions should work with combined fontsettings, or is it my mistake?

Hans van der Meer





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Re: setupcaptions

[Wolfgang Schuster]

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Am 11.07.2012 um 17:17 schrieb Meer, H. van der:

> I want to make my figure captions both slanted and small, or bold and small,etc.
> The wiki has for setupcaptions:
> 
> headstyle normal, bold, .. , small, ..
> style     normal, bold, .. , small, ..
> 
> I therefore expected to work the following setup:
> 
> \setupcaptions[headstyle={slanted,small},style={bold,small}]
> \starttext
> \placefigure{A dummy figure}{\externalfigure[dummy]}
> Caption test.
> \stoptext
> 
> But no, two seems too much. style={bold} does work and style={small} but style = {bold,small} does not. From the general principles of ConTeXt's parameter handling I would have expected this to work. 
> Of course I could have used style={\bf\switchtobodyfont[small]}, but I would prefer to refrain from low level font commands when possible.
> 
> I am right the setupcaptions should work with combined fontsettings, or is it my mistake?

You misunderstand how named styles work. When you have style key (can be style, textstyle etc.)
for a command you can write “style=\bf” and use the font switch as argument. Another way to set
the font is to use a name, e.g. “style=bold”. The argument in this case is a identifier which is defined as

  \definealternativestyle [\v!bold]                                   [\bf] []

As you can see “bold” is only a synonym for \bf (with the third argument you can specify what should
happen when a command when the identifier is used in a heading, see below for a example.

\definehead[HeadA][section][style=bold]
\definehead[HeadB][section][style=italic]

\starttext

\HeadA{normal \style[style=italic]{italic} normal \style[style=bold]{bold} normal \style[style=\it]{it} normal \style[style=\bf]{bf} normal}

normal \style[style=italic]{italic} normal \style[style=bold]{bold} normal \style[style=\it]{it} normal \style[style=\bf]{bf} normal

\HeadB{normal \style[style=italic]{italic} normal \style[style=bold]{bold} normal \style[style=\it]{it} normal \style[style=\bf]{bf} normal}

normal \style[style=italic]{italic} normal \style[style=bold]{bold} normal \style[style=\it]{it} normal \style[style=\bf]{bf} normal
	 
\stoptext


Having a list as argument for the style key is interesting and you have my vote for this but it would
be more complex and slower than the current mechanism.

Wolfgang

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Re: setupcaptions

[Hans Hagen]

On 11-7-2012 22:29, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:

> Having a list as argument for the style key is interesting and you have my vote for this but it would
> be more complex and slower than the current mechanism.

indeed too much of a slowdown

Hans

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Re: setupcaptions

[Hans Hagen]

Taco Hoekwater wrote:
> Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:
>   
>> There has been a discussion about this three months ago, but I can't  
>> figure it out: I have
>>
>> \setupcaptions[separator={:}]
>>
>> in my document and would expect something like "figure 1: a figure,"  
>> but I don't get a colon, the same for stopper={:}. Isn't this  
>> supposed to work?
>>     
>
> One of them is supposed to work, but somehow neither does. There is a
> bit of a problem with these caption settings in the current release,
> see also the post by David Arnold "Figure 1", a few days ago.
>   
separator is between numbers (chap.fig) and stopper is at the end (i have to look into it; something is messed up since we introduced separators for subnumbers in split floats) 

remind me 

Hans 

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Re: setupcaptions

[Taco Hoekwater]

Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:
> There has been a discussion about this three months ago, but I can't  
> figure it out: I have
> 
> \setupcaptions[separator={:}]
> 
> in my document and would expect something like "figure 1: a figure,"  
> but I don't get a colon, the same for stopper={:}. Isn't this  
> supposed to work?

One of them is supposed to work, but somehow neither does. There is a
bit of a problem with these caption settings in the current release,
see also the post by David Arnold "Figure 1", a few days ago.

Taco

setupcaptions

[Thomas A. Schmitz]

There has been a discussion about this three months ago, but I can't  
figure it out: I have

\setupcaptions[separator={:}]

in my document and would expect something like "figure 1: a figure,"  
but I don't get a colon, the same for stopper={:}. Isn't this  
supposed to work?

Thomas

Re: setupcaptions

[Hans Hagen]

At 03:43 PM 6/6/2002 +0200, you wrote:
>At 09:44 AM 6/3/2002 +0200, Jochen Dietrich wrote:
>>Gruetzi
>>
>>with the last beta numbering captions "bytext" doesn't seem to work anymore.
>>
>>With \setupcaptions[way=bytext] I always get the captions numbered by 
>>section. Any Idea?

you may try to replace \doorlabelen by \definieernummer in page-flt.tex and 
core-mat.tex (an dregenerate the format); that will give you complete 
control again.

Hans
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Re: setupcaptions

[Hans Hagen]

At 09:44 AM 6/3/2002 +0200, Jochen Dietrich wrote:
>Gruetzi
>
>with the last beta numbering captions "bytext" doesn't seem to work anymore.
>
>With \setupcaptions[way=bytext] I always get the captions numbered by 
>section. Any Idea?

you're right, this got lost when implementing the new float inheritance 
mechanism, i'll fix it

Hans

======== quick patch ========

in core-des locate \definieernummer and patch :

    \definieernummer
      [#1]
      [\c!wijze=\getvalue{\??lb#1\c!wijze}]%
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setupcaptions

[Jochen Dietrich]

Gruetzi

with the last beta numbering captions "bytext" doesn't seem to work anymore.

With \setupcaptions[way=bytext] I always get the captions numbered by 
section. Any Idea?

Jochen

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Jochen Dietrich
jdietrich@filander.de

Re: setupcaptions

[Hans Hagen]

Matthew Baker wrote:

> Is the following the correct procedure for making captions on floats
> left-aligned instead of centred?
> 
> \setupcaptions
>    [align=left]
> 
> It didn't seem to make any difference for me.  Using
> 
> \setupcaptions
>    [align=left,
>     width=max]
> 
> seemed to fix it for my figuretext environment (I only have one in the
> doc) but not for my placefigure environments (of which I have several).
> Is there another way?

This is the way indeed:

\setupcaptions
  [align=left,
   width=max]

\input tufte \placefigure{hi there}{} \input tufte

\startfiguretext{hi there}{}
\input tufte
\stopfiguretext

gives me two figures with left aligned captions. So it seems that
something else is interefering. Can you isolate the problem and send me
the file?  

> Thanks for the help on non-uniform columns, btw.  Playing around with my
> margins turned out to be tricky as they already swap with odd and even
> pages so I ended up doing a fixed-size hbox for the left column (with only
> images inside) and changed the hsize to do the right column.  Dirty, but
> it worked :)

Another dirty one: 

When you say \getpagestatus, you can use \ifrightpage to distinguish odd
even page actions, like in: 

  \getpagestatus \ifrightpage hello \else world \fi 

This is a two-pass thing, so you need at least two runs (automaticlly
done by texexec). 

Hans

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setupcaptions

[Matthew Baker]

Hi,

Is the following the correct procedure for making captions on floats
left-aligned instead of centred?

\setupcaptions
   [align=left]

It didn't seem to make any difference for me.  Using

\setupcaptions
   [align=left,
    width=max]

seemed to fix it for my figuretext environment (I only have one in the
doc) but not for my placefigure environments (of which I have several).
Is there another way?

Thanks for the help on non-uniform columns, btw.  Playing around with my
margins turned out to be tricky as they already swap with odd and even
pages so I ended up doing a fixed-size hbox for the left column (with only
images inside) and changed the hsize to do the right column.  Dirty, but
it worked :)

- Matthew

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