From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/77462 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Thomas A. Schmitz" Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: Critical editions with ConTeXt Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2012 17:41:31 +0200 Message-ID: <50097C2B.2030609@uni-bonn.de> References: <9a69cc6e3c778869.50068b7e@uniovi.es> <50068B59.7070803@uni-bonn.de> <500701D4.2020609@web.de> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1342798900 12783 80.91.229.3 (20 Jul 2012 15:41:40 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2012 15:41:40 +0000 (UTC) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Fri Jul 20 17:41:40 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([195.12.62.10]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1SsFKi-0006BJ-SN for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Fri, 20 Jul 2012 17:41:36 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1E1F102E1; Fri, 20 Jul 2012 17:41:35 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at balder.ntg.nl Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (balder.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id U6tWC923FjRT; Fri, 20 Jul 2012 17:41:34 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0ACAD101F6; Fri, 20 Jul 2012 17:41:34 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63EA0101F6 for ; Fri, 20 Jul 2012 17:41:33 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at balder.ntg.nl Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (balder.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 2MIWMqh5XELV for ; Fri, 20 Jul 2012 17:41:32 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from filter4-ams.mf.surf.net (filter4-ams.mf.surf.net [192.87.102.72]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83D60101F4 for ; Fri, 20 Jul 2012 17:41:32 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from uni-bonn.de (mail.uni-bonn.de [131.220.15.113]) by filter4-ams.mf.surf.net (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-9.4) with ESMTP id q6KFZtCB010096 for ; Fri, 20 Jul 2012 17:35:55 +0200 Original-Received: from [87.178.44.162] (account tschmit1@uni-bonn.de HELO [192.168.0.20]) by fe2.uni-bonn.de (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.4.4) with ESMTPSA id 21801008 for ntg-context@ntg.nl; Fri, 20 Jul 2012 17:41:31 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:13.0) Gecko/20120615 Thunderbird/13.0.1 In-Reply-To: X-Bayes-Prob: 0.7605 (Score 2, tokens from: @@RPTN) X-CanIt-Geo: ip=131.220.15.113; country=DE; region=07; city=Bonn; latitude=50.7333; longitude=7.1000; http://maps.google.com/maps?q=50.7333,7.1000&z=6 X-CanItPRO-Stream: uu:ntg-context@ntg.nl (inherits from uu:default, base:default) X-Canit-Stats-ID: 01HADzTSU - 0b38654f8033 - 20120720 X-Scanned-By: CanIt (www . roaringpenguin . com) on 192.87.102.72 X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:77462 Archived-At: Just a few comments on this helpful mail: On 07/19/2012 12:57 PM, MANUEL GONZALEZ SUAREZ wrote: > I'm not a classical philologist, but the way ConTeXt works is much > clearer than ledmac to me (although I have only tested ledmac for a > couple of days). > I haven't looked at ledmac too closely, and of course I'm a huge fan of ConTeXt; nevertheless, we shouldn't promise too much: for the time being, ledmac provides a pretty good working environment which you can just use; ConTeXt offers a much better overall syntax and programming interface, but right now, it's more of a DIY experience when it comes to critical editions. There is no ready drop-in replacement for ledmac > But there are two features from ledmac that aren't available in ConTeXt > (or at least I don't know how to achieve them): > > -ConTeXt numbers all linenotes that come from the same line and there > seems to be no way to limit number in the apparatus to only the first > linenote from that line. This is something that can be fixed, I assume. The best you could do: make a small example file, explain what output you expect and what you get, and ask Hans nicely if he can implement this. Chances are he'll reply "on a rainy Sunday afternoon, maybe," and you'll have to give him a couple of weeks and gently remind him. He (or the Wolfgang) will be willing and helpful, but of course time is a finite resource. So: the better and clearer and shorter your example, the more polite your request, the better your chances to see this implemented. > -From the way linenotes are implemented, linenotes mark a point in the > body text, but not a text passage, so it seems to be impossible to refer > to a passage that is typeset in different lines (such as 2-3). This may be a bit more difficult, because it involves thinking about proper input syntax. How do you want to mark this passage? If you can come up with clean and unequivocal syntax and demonstrate it in an example, your chances aren't too bad. However, I mean really clean syntax, not just a kludge to give you the output you want. Ideally, have a look at the TEI syntax. IMO, this is the best way to go; I don't think TeX is a good input format for critical editions. If you can come up with a good mapping TEI --> ConTeXt --> output, that would facilitate things. Just my personal opinions; I'm not a spokesperson for ConTeXt in any way! All best Thomas ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________