From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/77596 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Hans Hagen Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: define vs setup Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2012 10:13:35 +0200 Message-ID: <5010FC2F.4080709@wxs.nl> References: <5010B708.20907@gmail.com> <5010B7D3.5040700@googlemail.com> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1343290431 16018 80.91.229.3 (26 Jul 2012 08:13:51 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2012 08:13:51 +0000 (UTC) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Thu Jul 26 10:13:51 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([195.12.62.10]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1SuJCd-0008QV-Tu for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Thu, 26 Jul 2012 10:13:48 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id C336B1028B; Thu, 26 Jul 2012 10:13:46 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at balder.ntg.nl Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (balder.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 1Xew80rZetWJ; Thu, 26 Jul 2012 10:13:43 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC4BB101F6; Thu, 26 Jul 2012 10:13:43 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 130E7101F6 for ; Thu, 26 Jul 2012 10:13:43 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at balder.ntg.nl Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (balder.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id hrlFU7nAc723 for ; Thu, 26 Jul 2012 10:13:42 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from filter1-til.mf.surf.net (filter1-til.mf.surf.net [194.171.167.217]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03580101F4 for ; Thu, 26 Jul 2012 10:13:41 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from smtp.ziggozakelijk.nl (D57D1DA2.static.ziggozakelijk.nl [213.125.29.162]) by filter1-til.mf.surf.net (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-9.4) with ESMTP id q6Q8DffY032568 for ; Thu, 26 Jul 2012 10:13:41 +0200 X-Default-Received-SPF: pass (skip=loggedin (res=PASS)) x-ip-name=10.100.1.100; Original-Received: from [10.100.1.100] (unverified [10.100.1.100]) by pragma-net.nl (SurgeMail 6.1c) with ESMTP (TLS) id 476-1713362 for multiple; Thu, 26 Jul 2012 10:13:37 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:14.0) Gecko/20120713 Thunderbird/14.0 In-Reply-To: <5010B7D3.5040700@googlemail.com> X-Authenticated-User: hagen@controller-9 X-Bayes-Prob: 0.0001 (Score 0, tokens from: @@RPTN) X-CanIt-Geo: ip=213.125.29.162; country=NL; region=03; city=Hattem; latitude=52.4724; longitude=6.0696; http://maps.google.com/maps?q=52.4724,6.0696&z=6 X-CanItPRO-Stream: uu:ntg-context@ntg.nl (inherits from uu:default, base:default) X-Canit-Stats-ID: 0RHCUdFmC - f876bc172f36 - 20120726 (trained as not-spam) X-Scanned-By: CanIt (www . roaringpenguin . com) on 194.171.167.217 X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:77596 Archived-At: On 26-7-2012 05:21, S Barmeier wrote: > You can \setup what you \define|d yourself and \setup what is > pre\define|d, but not \setup something that is not \define|d. > > Maybe ;) it depends .. often it's: \definexx[whatever] \definexx[whatever][settings] \definexx[another][parent] \definexx[another][parent][settings] \setupxx[settings] \setupxx[another][settings] \setupxx[whatever][settings] sometimes there are no defines because a feature is generic or global in nature. often a define generates a command (\whatever, \startwhatever), etc btw, a redefine does not reset already set parameters (in mkii that is often the case but not in mkiv) it all depends on what kind of functionality you're dealing with Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl ----------------------------------------------------------------- ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! 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