2 columns: 1 language per column

2 columns: 1 language per column

[Peter Münster]

Hi,

Is it possible today with mkiv, to automatically typeset one text
(german) on the left column and the translation (french) on the right
column (perhaps with streams)?

And if yes, how?

TIA for any help!
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Re: 2 columns: 1 language per column

[Hans Hagen]

On 29-7-2012 17:57, Peter Münster wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Is it possible today with mkiv, to automatically typeset one text
> (german) on the left column and the translation (french) on the right
> column (perhaps with streams)?
>
> And if yes, how?

there's also

%D \defineparallel[main][one,two]
%D
%D \startmain
%D \startone
%D     first 1
%D     [reference] first 2
%D     first 3
%D \stopone
%D \starttwo
%D     second 1
%D \stoptwo
%D \stopmain
%D
%D \placeparallel[main][one,two][criterium=all]

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Re: 2 columns: 1 language per column

[Peter Münster]

On Tue, Jul 31 2012, Hans Hagen wrote:

> there's also
>
> %D \defineparallel[main][one,two]

Is it possible with this to make 2 columns, one language on the left,
another language on the right?

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Re: 2 columns: 1 language per column

[Hans Hagen]

On 31-7-2012 11:27, Peter Münster wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 31 2012, Hans Hagen wrote:
>
>> there's also
>>
>> %D \defineparallel[main][one,two]
>
> Is it possible with this to make 2 columns, one language on the left,
> another language on the right?

maybe something

\setupparallel
   [setups=parallel:place:mine]

\startsetups parallel:place:mine
     \setups[parallel:place:default]
     \column[yes]
\stopsetups

\startmixedcolumns
     \placeparallel[main][one,two][criterium=all]
\stopmixedcolumns

there will be better support for that kind of things at some point

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Re: 2 columns: 1 language per column (solved)

[Peter Münster]

On Tue, Jul 31 2012, Hans Hagen wrote:

> \startmixedcolumns
>     \placeparallel[main][one,two][criterium=all]
> \stopmixedcolumns
>
> there will be better support for that kind of things at some point

I don't get the desired result with \placeparallel, but I've found a
solution, that works quite well. I just can't place figures, that span
the 2 columns, but that's no problem for my project.

Here the (not very contextish) solution (cld-file):

--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
local C = context
local format = string.format

local function create_environment()
  local fp = io.open("env.tex", "w")
  fp:write([[
\startenvironment env

\def\ColumnDistance{1cm}

\startmode[columns]
  \definepapersize[columns][
    width=\dimexpr (\textwidth - \ColumnDistance) / 2 \relax,
    height=\textheight]
  \setuppapersize[columns]
  \setuplayout[page]
  \setuppagenumbering[location=]
  \setupalign[verytolerant, stretch, line]
  \setupwhitespace[small]
\stopmode

\startbuffer[german]
  \it\dorecurse{15}{\dorecurse{20}{german }\par}
\stopbuffer

\startbuffer[french]
  \bf\dorecurse{15}{\dorecurse{20}{french }\par}
\stopbuffer

\stopenvironment
]])
  fp:close()
end

local function create_pages(s)
  local fp = io.open("pages.tex", "w")
  fp:write(format([[
\enablemode[columns]
\environment env
\starttext
\getbuffer[%s]
\stoptext
]], s))
  fp:close()
  os.execute(format("context --result=pages-%s pages", s))
end

local function create_columns(l, r)
  local function pdf(x) return "pages-" .. x .. ".pdf" end
  create_pages(l)
  create_pages(r)
  local pdfobj = epdf.open(pdf(l))
  local n = pdfobj:getNumPages()
  for i = 1, n do
    C.dontleavehmode()
    C.externalfigure({pdf(l)}, {page = i})
    C"\\hskip\\ColumnDistance"
    C.externalfigure({pdf(r)}, {page = i})
    C.page()
  end
end

create_environment()
C.environment(false, "env ")
C.starttext()
C"Before"
C.page()
create_columns("german", "french")
C"After"
C.stoptext()
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---

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Re: 2 columns: 1 language per column (solved)

[Otared Kavian]

Hi Peter,

Can you give please an example showing how to use your code?

Thanks: OK

On 31 juil. 2012, at 16:15, Peter Münster <pmlists@free.fr> wrote:

> On Tue, Jul 31 2012, Hans Hagen wrote:
> 
>> \startmixedcolumns
>>    \placeparallel[main][one,two][criterium=all]
>> \stopmixedcolumns
>> 
>> there will be better support for that kind of things at some point
> 
> I don't get the desired result with \placeparallel, but I've found a
> solution, that works quite well. I just can't place figures, that span
> the 2 columns, but that's no problem for my project.
> 
> Here the (not very contextish) solution (cld-file):
> 
> --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
> local C = context
> local format = string.format
> 
> local function create_environment()
>  local fp = io.open("env.tex", "w")
>  fp:write([[
> \startenvironment env
> 
> \def\ColumnDistance{1cm}
> 
> \startmode[columns]
>  \definepapersize[columns][
>    width=\dimexpr (\textwidth - \ColumnDistance) / 2 \relax,
>    height=\textheight]
>  \setuppapersize[columns]
>  \setuplayout[page]
>  \setuppagenumbering[location=]
>  \setupalign[verytolerant, stretch, line]
>  \setupwhitespace[small]
> \stopmode
> 
> \startbuffer[german]
>  \it\dorecurse{15}{\dorecurse{20}{german }\par}
> \stopbuffer
> 
> \startbuffer[french]
>  \bf\dorecurse{15}{\dorecurse{20}{french }\par}
> \stopbuffer
> 
> \stopenvironment
> ]])
>  fp:close()
> end
> 
> local function create_pages(s)
>  local fp = io.open("pages.tex", "w")
>  fp:write(format([[
> \enablemode[columns]
> \environment env
> \starttext
> \getbuffer[%s]
> \stoptext
> ]], s))
>  fp:close()
>  os.execute(format("context --result=pages-%s pages", s))
> end
> 
> local function create_columns(l, r)
>  local function pdf(x) return "pages-" .. x .. ".pdf" end
>  create_pages(l)
>  create_pages(r)
>  local pdfobj = epdf.open(pdf(l))
>  local n = pdfobj:getNumPages()
>  for i = 1, n do
>    C.dontleavehmode()
>    C.externalfigure({pdf(l)}, {page = i})
>    C"\\hskip\\ColumnDistance"
>    C.externalfigure({pdf(r)}, {page = i})
>    C.page()
>  end
> end
> 
> create_environment()
> C.environment(false, "env ")
> C.starttext()
> C"Before"
> C.page()
> create_columns("german", "french")
> C"After"
> C.stoptext()
> --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---
> 
> -- 
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Re: 2 columns: 1 language per column (solved)

[Peter Münster]

On Tue, Jul 31 2012, Otared Kavian wrote:

> Can you give please an example showing how to use your code?

Save it in "test.cld", then run "context test.cld".
Then open "test.pdf" in a PDF-viewer.

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Re: 2 columns: 1 language per column (solved)

[Otared Kavian]

Thanks Peter! It is a very nice piece of code, but could this be included in a TeX file? (Otherwise one cannot use something like TeXShop on a Mac to typeset the file).

Best regards: OK


On 31 juil. 2012, at 18:23, Peter Münster <pmlists@free.fr> wrote:

> On Tue, Jul 31 2012, Otared Kavian wrote:
> 
>> Can you give please an example showing how to use your code?
> 
> Save it in "test.cld", then run "context test.cld".
> Then open "test.pdf" in a PDF-viewer.
> 
> -- 
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Re: 2 columns: 1 language per column (solved)

[Peter Münster]

On Tue, Jul 31 2012, Otared Kavian wrote:

> Thanks Peter! It is a very nice piece of code, but could this be included in a
> TeX file?

Probably yes, but I'm too busy to do this now. I'm sorry...

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Re: 2 columns: 1 language per column (solved)

[Rogers, Michael K]

If you wish to use TeXShop, you can set it up...in my typically kludgy way.  This mimics the TeXShop setup for Context Standalone (see http://wiki.contextgarden.net/ConTeXt_Standalone/Mac_Installation) and assumes that "context" is in your regular execution path.

Create a new plain-text file in ~/Library/TeXShop/Engines -- call it whatever you like -- let's say "ConTeXt-CLD.engine".  Add these lines
------------CUT HERE--------------
#!/bin/bash
context --forcecld "$1"
------------CUT HERE--------------

This will create a ConTeXt-CLD menu item in the popup menu on new file windows. (You may have to restart TeXShop first.)  You can select it and run Peter's column program.

If you like, add these three lines to the beginning of your .tex file to force TeXShop to use ConTeXt-CLD:

------------CUT HERE--------------
--[[
%!TEX TS-program = ConTeXt-CLD
]]--
------------CUT HERE--------------

A drawback is that your cld files will be masquerading as .tex files.  But you can process cld files in TeXShop if you want to.

Michael

On Jul 31, 2012, at 5:46 PM, Otared Kavian wrote:

> Thanks Peter! It is a very nice piece of code, but could this be included in a TeX file? (Otherwise one cannot use something like TeXShop on a Mac to typeset the file).
>
> Best regards: OK
>
>
> On 31 juil. 2012, at 18:23, Peter Münster <pmlists@free.fr> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, Jul 31 2012, Otared Kavian wrote:
>>
>>> Can you give please an example showing how to use your code?
>>
>> Save it in "test.cld", then run "context test.cld".
>> Then open "test.pdf" in a PDF-viewer.
>>
>> --
>>          Peter
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>
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Re: 2 columns: 1 language per column (solved)

[Otared Kavian]

Hi,

Thanks!
Your solution works as far as creating a « ConTeXt-CLD.engine » which creates a menu item for typesetting a CLD document, upon choosing it for the code written by Peter Münster, provided the suffix of the document's name is .tex, not .cld.

However adding the line 
%!TEX TS-program = ConTeXt-CLD
at the top of the file results in an error message saying:
	 > tex > error on line 72 in file /context-minimal/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/cont-yes.mkiv: LuaTeX error
(here context-minimal is the directory where I have the latest version of the standalone ConTeXt).

Also enclosing the code written by Peter between \startluacode …. \stopluacode in a TEX file does not allow to to typeset the file, contrary to other examples in the manual written by Hans « ConTeXt, Lua Documents ».

In any case thanks for your attention: now there is another way to typeset two languages in two columns…

Best regards: OK

On 1 août 2012, at 00:41, "Rogers, Michael K" <mroge02@emory.edu> wrote:

> If you wish to use TeXShop, you can set it up...in my typically kludgy way.  This mimics the TeXShop setup for Context Standalone (see http://wiki.contextgarden.net/ConTeXt_Standalone/Mac_Installation) and assumes that "context" is in your regular execution path.
> 
> Create a new plain-text file in ~/Library/TeXShop/Engines -- call it whatever you like -- let's say "ConTeXt-CLD.engine".  Add these lines
> ------------CUT HERE--------------
> #!/bin/bash
> context --forcecld "$1"
> ------------CUT HERE--------------
> 
> This will create a ConTeXt-CLD menu item in the popup menu on new file windows. (You may have to restart TeXShop first.)  You can select it and run Peter's column program.
> 
> If you like, add these three lines to the beginning of your .tex file to force TeXShop to use ConTeXt-CLD:
> 
> ------------CUT HERE--------------
> --[[
> %!TEX TS-program = ConTeXt-CLD
> ]]--
> ------------CUT HERE--------------
> 
> A drawback is that your cld files will be masquerading as .tex files.  But you can process cld files in TeXShop if you want to.
> 
> Michael
> 
> On Jul 31, 2012, at 5:46 PM, Otared Kavian wrote:
> 
>> Thanks Peter! It is a very nice piece of code, but could this be included in a TeX file? (Otherwise one cannot use something like TeXShop on a Mac to typeset the file).
>> 
>> Best regards: OK
>> 
>> 
>> On 31 juil. 2012, at 18:23, Peter Münster <pmlists@free.fr> wrote:
>> 
>>> On Tue, Jul 31 2012, Otared Kavian wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Can you give please an example showing how to use your code?
>>> 
>>> Save it in "test.cld", then run "context test.cld".
>>> Then open "test.pdf" in a PDF-viewer.
>>> 
>>> --
>>>         Peter
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>> 
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Re: 2 columns: 1 language per column (solved)

[Hans Hagen]

On 31-7-2012 23:46, Otared Kavian wrote:
> Thanks Peter! It is a very nice piece of code, but could this be included in a TeX file? (Otherwise one cannot use something like TeXShop on a Mac to typeset the file).

"context whatever.cld" should process ok, so texshop etc should just 
treat a cld file as context file

Hans

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Re: 2 columns: 1 language per column (solved)

[Rogers, Michael K]

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On Aug 1, 2012, at 2:39 AM, Otared Kavian wrote:

...
However adding the line
%!TEX TS-program = ConTeXt-CLD
at the top of the file results in an error message saying:
> tex > error on line 72 in file /context-minimal/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/cont-yes.mkiv: LuaTeX error
(here context-minimal is the directory where I have the latest version of the standalone ConTeXt).......

On 1 août 2012, at 00:41, "Rogers, Michael K" <mroge02@emory.edu<mailto:mroge02@emory.edu>> wrote:

...
If you like, add these three lines to the beginning of your .tex file to force TeXShop to use ConTeXt-CLD:

------------CUT HERE--------------
--[[
%!TEX TS-program = ConTeXt-CLD
]]--
------------CUT HERE--------------

You need all three lines.  The TeX comment has to be enclosed in a Lua comment.  The double hyphen after the "]]" is optional, I think, but I've seen it done that way.  (As a neophyte, I imitate.)

@Hans, the problem with TeXShop is that it seems to refuse to process files whose names do not end in .tex, AFAIK.  (The typeset button is disabled.)  So a straightforward solution seems impossible.  You can always type "context file.cld" in a terminal window.

Also enclosing the code written by Peter between \startluacode …. \stopluacode in a TEX file does not allow to to typeset the file

Good to know.

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Re: 2 columns: 1 language per column (solved)

[Hans Hagen]

On 1-8-2012 14:44, Rogers, Michael K wrote:
> On Aug 1, 2012, at 2:39 AM, Otared Kavian wrote:
>
> ....
> However adding the line
> %!TEX TS-program = ConTeXt-CLD
> at the top of the file results in an error message saying:
>> tex > error on line 72 in file /context-minimal/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/cont-yes.mkiv: LuaTeX error
> (here context-minimal is the directory where I have the latest version of the standalone ConTeXt).......
>
> On 1 août 2012, at 00:41, "Rogers, Michael K" <mroge02@emory.edu<mailto:mroge02@emory.edu>> wrote:
>
> ....
> If you like, add these three lines to the beginning of your .tex file to force TeXShop to use ConTeXt-CLD:
>
> ------------CUT HERE--------------
> --[[
> %!TEX TS-program = ConTeXt-CLD
> ]]--
> ------------CUT HERE--------------
>
> You need all three lines.  The TeX comment has to be enclosed in a Lua comment.  The double hyphen after the "]]" is optional, I think, but I've seen it done that way.  (As a neophyte, I imitate.)
>
> @Hans, the problem with TeXShop is that it seems to refuse to process files whose names do not end in .tex, AFAIK.  (The typeset button is disabled.)  So a straightforward solution seems impossible.  You can always type "context file.cld" in a terminal window.

In that case we just ask Richard Koch if it can be done ...

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Hi Dick,

Context files can have several suffixes: .tex .mkiv .mkii .cld (to 
mention some). Is it possible to let texshop see all of these as source 
that can be processed by the 'context' script?

Hans


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Re: 2 columns: 1 language per column (solved)

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On 1 août 2012, at 14:44, "Rogers, Michael K" <mroge02@emory.edu> wrote:
>> […]
>>> If you like, add these three lines to the beginning of your .tex file to force TeXShop to use ConTeXt-CLD:
>>> 
>>> ------------CUT HERE--------------
>>> --[[
>>> %!TEX TS-program = ConTeXt-CLD
>>> ]]--
>>> ------------CUT HERE--------------
> 
> You need all three lines.  The TeX comment has to be enclosed in a Lua comment.  The double hyphen after the "]]" is optional, I think, but I've seen it done that way.  (As a neophyte, I imitate.)

Thanks for the information: indeed the three lines above allow a CLD code in a TEX file to be typeset by ConTeXt, using the TeXShop engine created with your indications.
By the way, as you guessed the third line can be either
]]--
or
]]


> @Hans, the problem with TeXShop is that it seems to refuse to process files whose names do not end in .tex, AFAIK.  (The typeset button is disabled.)  So a straightforward solution seems impossible.  You can always type "context file.cld" in a terminal window.

Best regards: OK

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