Typesetting Markdown

Typesetting Markdown

[Thangalin]

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Hi folks!

I'm thinking about writing a series of blog posts about how to typeset
Markdown using ConTeXt. I've written the first part and am wondering if
anyone would be interested in reading more:

https://dave.autonoma.ca/blog/2019/05/22/typesetting-markdown-part-1/

Thank you!

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Re: Typesetting Markdown

[Jan U. Hasecke]

Am 23.05.19 um 07:18 schrieb Thangalin:
> Hi folks!
> 
> I'm thinking about writing a series of blog posts about how to typeset
> Markdown using ConTeXt. I've written the first part and am wondering if
> anyone would be interested in reading more:
> 
> https://dave.autonoma.ca/blog/2019/05/22/typesetting-markdown-part-1/
> 

That is interesting. Do you provide a RSS feed for your blog?

juh
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Re: Typesetting Markdown

[Saša Janiška]

Thangalin <thangalin@gmail.com> writes:

> I'm thinking about writing a series of blog posts about how to typeset
> Markdown using ConTeXt. I've written the first part and am wondering
> if anyone would be interested in reading more:

I'm interested for the topic, but it would be nice, imho, if the Part-1
would contain some kind of Abstract along with the TOC for the whole
series according to your plan?

Otoh, I still wonder which method to use for typesetting Markdown with
ConTeXt, iow. whether to use Mardkown module and/or filter or to go with
pandoc-xhtml (http://www.from-pandoc-to-context.tk/) method...

However, one thing is certain: (Pandoc's) Markdown seems easy and
good-enough for most of documents I plan to write, while ConTeXt is
without comparison when it comes to the quality of final output.


Sincerely,
Gour

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Re: Typesetting Markdown

[Thangalin]

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Hi Gour,

I added an abstract, an overview section with the plan, and an RSS feed:

https://dave.autonoma.ca/blog/2019/05/22/typesetting-markdown-part-1/

One of the reasons I chose Pandoc's Markdown is for its support of classes
and annotations. I looked into the pandoc-xhtml link and it looked both
incomplete and lacking support for typesetting mathematics.

Have a read and let me know what you think!

Thank you for the feedback.

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Re: Typesetting Markdown

[Saša Janiška]

Thangalin <thangalin@gmail.com> writes:

> I added an abstract, an overview section with the plan, and an RSS
> feed:

Thanks a lot - now it's much better seeing what is ahead of us. ;)

> One of the reasons I chose Pandoc's Markdown is for its support of
> classes and annotations.

I was not using Pandoc's markdown, so will have to check the docs in
regard.

> I looked into the pandoc-xhtml link and it looked both incomplete and
> lacking support for typesetting mathematics.

For Markdown --> ConTeXt usage, math is not my primary concern, but
wonder what do you think about the Pandoc's "cons" as stated on
pandoc-xhtml site, iow:

* Main document language information.

* Markup for language in text portions.

*  Any <div> or <span> elements markup.

> Have a read and let me know what you think!

See above. ;)


Sincerely,
Gour

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Re: Typesetting Markdown

[Pablo Rodriguez]

On 5/24/19 5:37 AM, Thangalin wrote:
> Hi Gour,
>
> I added an abstract, an overview section with the plan, and an RSS feed:
>
> https://dave.autonoma.ca/blog/2019/05/22/typesetting-markdown-part-1/
>
> One of the reasons I chose Pandoc's Markdown is for its support of
> classes and annotations. I looked into the pandoc-xhtml link and it
> looked both incomplete and lacking support for typesetting mathematics.

Hi Dave,

pandoc-xhtml is only a poor example about handling XML as input source.
I only use Markdown and pandoc, because they provide a limited way of
XML code easily.

The real thing is that you can feed ConTeXt with XML sources to typeset
what you want.

My use of XML typesetting is basic when compared to that of Hans, Taco,
Thomas Schmitz and Hans van der Meer.

Of course, other approaches are perfectly fine. My comment was only
about not focusing on pandoc-xhtml (which I should rewrite from scratch
when I find time for that), but on what makes it thick.

Just in case it helps,

Pablo
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Re: Typesetting Markdown

[Thangalin]

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> For Markdown --> ConTeXt usage, math is not my primary concern, but
> wonder what do you think about the Pandoc's "cons" as stated on
> pandoc-xhtml site, iow:
>
> * Main document language information.
> * Markup for language in text portions.
> * Any <div> or <span> elements markup.
>

For the document language, Pandoc provides language variables:

https://pandoc.org/MANUAL.html#language-variables

I haven't tried it, so I don't know if it'll handle variations on quotes or
hyphenation, but that strikes me as more a presentation layer aspect than a
content aspect. That is, ConTeXt (or LaTeX), given a language, is
responsible for showing the correct representation; whereas, Markdown is
responsible for the prose.

Intermixing languages is also possible, as per the above link.

Lastly, the above link also shows how to mark up div elements. I'll cover
how to create inline images later in the series---it requires a little bit
of Lua, depending on the complexity of the problem. See:

https://pandoc.org/MANUAL.html#divs-and-spans

Cheers!

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Re: Typesetting Markdown

[Pablo Rodriguez]

On 5/25/19 9:54 PM, Thangalin wrote:
>[...]
> For the document language, Pandoc provides language variables:
>
> https://pandoc.org/MANUAL.html#language-variables
> [...]
> Intermixing languages is also possible, as per the above link.

As far as I can remember, neither of them were available when I wrote
that (for ConTeXt, I mean).

I think that TeX output is the main problem in the development of
pandoc, because XML is so different from TeX.

But this is another issue and it doesn’t belong here.

Looking forward to seeing your sources and your output documents!

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