* MKII & MKIV difference between \textrule
@ 2012-09-13 22:08 Alessandro Perucchi
2012-09-14 11:26 ` Wolfgang Schuster
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From: Alessandro Perucchi @ 2012-09-13 22:08 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Hello,
In my experimentation, I've found that in mkii and mkiv the behavior of
\textrule and \setuptextrule are different...
What I did was quite simple:
\textrule{Testing head}
blah blah blah
\textrule
in mkii the text in well centered between the lines.
But in mkiv the bottom line is too near the text, and I need to add
something like \blank[halfline] to have a similar behavior as mkii.
And apparently the command \starttextrule ... \stoptextrule doesn't work
(this was explain in the cont-entp.pdf page 204) in either mkii & mkiv.
Am I missing something?
Sincerely yours,
Alessandro
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* Re: MKII & MKIV difference between \textrule
2012-09-13 22:08 MKII & MKIV difference between \textrule Alessandro Perucchi
@ 2012-09-14 11:26 ` Wolfgang Schuster
2012-09-14 21:50 ` Alessandro Perucchi
2012-09-16 10:39 ` Hans Hagen
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From: Wolfgang Schuster @ 2012-09-14 11:26 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Am 14.09.2012 um 00:08 schrieb Alessandro Perucchi <alessandro@perucchi.org>:
> Hello,
>
> In my experimentation, I've found that in mkii and mkiv the behavior of \textrule and \setuptextrule are different...
>
> What I did was quite simple:
>
> \textrule{Testing head}
> blah blah blah
> \textrule
>
> in mkii the text in well centered between the lines.
> But in mkiv the bottom line is too near the text, and I need to add something like \blank[halfline] to have a similar behavior as mkii.
There is a vertical skip missing in the MkIV version of the macros.
pack-mrl.mkiv
\def\pack_textrule_following#1%
{\doifelsenothing{#1}
- {\nointerlineskip
+ {\vskip\dimexpr\strutdp+.5ex\ifdim\prevdepth>\strutdp\else\ifdim\prevdepth>\zeropoint-\prevdepth\fi\fi\relax
+ \nointerlineskip
\dontleavehmode\vbox
{\color[\directtextrulesparameter\c!rulecolor]
{\hrule\s!depth\directtextrulesparameter\c!rulethickness\s!height\zeropoint\s!width\availablehsize}}}
{\pack_textrule_with_text{#1}}%
\ifvmode
\prevdepth\zeropoint
\fi}
> And apparently the command \starttextrule ... \stoptextrule doesn't work (this was explain in the cont-entp.pdf page 204) in either mkii & mliv.
This does work for me:
\starttext
blah blah blah
\starttextrule{Testing head}
blah blah blah
\stoptextrule
blah blah blah
\stoptext
Wolfgang
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* Re: MKII & MKIV difference between \textrule
2012-09-14 11:26 ` Wolfgang Schuster
@ 2012-09-14 21:50 ` Alessandro Perucchi
2012-09-14 22:12 ` luigi scarso
2012-09-15 7:28 ` Wolfgang Schuster
2012-09-16 10:39 ` Hans Hagen
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From: Alessandro Perucchi @ 2012-09-14 21:50 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On 14 Sep 2012, at 13:26, Wolfgang Schuster <wolfgang.schuster@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Am 14.09.2012 um 00:08 schrieb Alessandro Perucchi <alessandro@perucchi.org>:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> In my experimentation, I've found that in mkii and mkiv the behavior of \textrule and \setuptextrule are different...
>>
>> What I did was quite simple:
>>
>> \textrule{Testing head}
>> blah blah blah
>> \textrule
>>
>> in mkii the text in well centered between the lines.
>> But in mkiv the bottom line is too near the text, and I need to add something like \blank[halfline] to have a similar behavior as mkii.
>
> There is a vertical skip missing in the MkIV version of the macros.
>
> pack-mrl.mkiv
>
> \def\pack_textrule_following#1%
> {\doifelsenothing{#1}
> - {\nointerlineskip
> + {\vskip\dimexpr\strutdp+.5ex\ifdim\prevdepth>\strutdp\else\ifdim\prevdepth>\zeropoint-\prevdepth\fi\fi\relax
> + \nointerlineskip
> \dontleavehmode\vbox
> {\color[\directtextrulesparameter\c!rulecolor]
> {\hrule\s!depth\directtextrulesparameter\c!rulethickness\s!height\zeropoint\s!width\availablehsize}}}
> {\pack_textrule_with_text{#1}}%
> \ifvmode
> \prevdepth\zeropoint
> \fi}
I've tried to patch pack-mrl.mkiv and I still get the error of spacing before the second \textrule.
My version of context is
mtx-context | ConTeXt Process Management 0.60
mtx-context |
mtx-context | main context file: /Users/ptitvert/context/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/context.mkiv
mtx-context | current version: 2012.09.11 20:36
>
>> And apparently the command \starttextrule ... \stoptextrule doesn't work (this was explain in the cont-entp.pdf page 204) in either mkii & mliv.
>
> This does work for me:
>
> \starttext
>
> blah blah blah
>
> \starttextrule{Testing head}
> blah blah blah
> \stoptextrule
>
> blah blah blah
>
> \stoptext
But
\starttext
blah blah blah
\starttextrule[top]{Testing head}
blah blah blah
\stoptextrule
blah blah blah
\stoptext
doesn't, and this possibility is explain in the doc, but apparently it doesn't work.
So either the doc is wrong, the command is wrong or I'm doing something wrong :-D
Sincerely yours,
Alessandro
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* Re: MKII & MKIV difference between \textrule
2012-09-14 21:50 ` Alessandro Perucchi
@ 2012-09-14 22:12 ` luigi scarso
2012-09-15 6:31 ` Alessandro Perucchi
2012-09-15 7:28 ` Wolfgang Schuster
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From: luigi scarso @ 2012-09-14 22:12 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 11:50 PM, Alessandro Perucchi <
alessandro@perucchi.org> wrote:
>
> On 14 Sep 2012, at 13:26, Wolfgang Schuster <wolfgang.schuster@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >
> > Am 14.09.2012 um 00:08 schrieb Alessandro Perucchi <
> alessandro@perucchi.org>:
> >
> >> Hello,
> >>
> >> In my experimentation, I've found that in mkii and mkiv the behavior of
> \textrule and \setuptextrule are different...
> >>
> >> What I did was quite simple:
> >>
> >> \textrule{Testing head}
> >> blah blah blah
> >> \textrule
> >>
> >> in mkii the text in well centered between the lines.
> >> But in mkiv the bottom line is too near the text, and I need to add
> something like \blank[halfline] to have a similar behavior as mkii.
> >
> > There is a vertical skip missing in the MkIV version of the macros.
> >
> > pack-mrl.mkiv
> >
> > \def\pack_textrule_following#1%
> > {\doifelsenothing{#1}
> > - {\nointerlineskip
> > +
> {\vskip\dimexpr\strutdp+.5ex\ifdim\prevdepth>\strutdp\else\ifdim\prevdepth>\zeropoint-\prevdepth\fi\fi\relax
> > + \nointerlineskip
> > \dontleavehmode\vbox
> > {\color[\directtextrulesparameter\c!rulecolor]
> >
> {\hrule\s!depth\directtextrulesparameter\c!rulethickness\s!height\zeropoint\s!width\availablehsize}}}
> > {\pack_textrule_with_text{#1}}%
> > \ifvmode
> > \prevdepth\zeropoint
> > \fi}
>
>
> I've tried to patch pack-mrl.mkiv and I still get the error of spacing
> before the second \textrule.
>
> have you regenerated the format ?
--
luigi
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* Re: MKII & MKIV difference between \textrule
2012-09-14 22:12 ` luigi scarso
@ 2012-09-15 6:31 ` Alessandro Perucchi
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From: Alessandro Perucchi @ 2012-09-15 6:31 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On 15 sept. 2012, at 00:12, luigi scarso <luigi.scarso@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 11:50 PM, Alessandro Perucchi <alessandro@perucchi.org> wrote:
>
> On 14 Sep 2012, at 13:26, Wolfgang Schuster <wolfgang.schuster@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> > There is a vertical skip missing in the MkIV version of the macros.
> >
> > pack-mrl.mkiv
> >
> > \def\pack_textrule_following#1%
> > {\doifelsenothing{#1}
> > - {\nointerlineskip
> > + {\vskip\dimexpr\strutdp+.5ex\ifdim\prevdepth>\strutdp\else\ifdim\prevdepth>\zeropoint-\prevdepth\fi\fi\relax
> > + \nointerlineskip
> > \dontleavehmode\vbox
> > {\color[\directtextrulesparameter\c!rulecolor]
> > {\hrule\s!depth\directtextrulesparameter\c!rulethickness\s!height\zeropoint\s!width\availablehsize}}}
> > {\pack_textrule_with_text{#1}}%
> > \ifvmode
> > \prevdepth\zeropoint
> > \fi}
>
>
> I've tried to patch pack-mrl.mkiv and I still get the error of spacing before the second \textrule.
>
> have you regenerated the format ?
Well no.... I didn't know!!! and after searching how to do it, I found and yes it works :-)
Thanks!!
Sincerely yours,
Alessandro
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* Re: MKII & MKIV difference between \textrule
2012-09-14 21:50 ` Alessandro Perucchi
2012-09-14 22:12 ` luigi scarso
@ 2012-09-15 7:28 ` Wolfgang Schuster
2012-09-15 10:00 ` Alessandro Perucchi
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From: Wolfgang Schuster @ 2012-09-15 7:28 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: mailing list for ConTeXt users
Am 14.09.2012 um 23:50 schrieb Alessandro Perucchi <alessandro@perucchi.org>:
>>> And apparently the command \starttextrule ... \stoptextrule doesn't work (this was explain in the cont-entp.pdf page 204) in either mkii & mliv.
>>
>> This does work for me:
>>
>> \starttext
>>
>> blah blah blah
>>
>> \starttextrule{Testing head}
>> blah blah blah
>> \stoptextrule
>>
>> blah blah blah
>>
>> \stoptext
>
> But
>
> \starttext
>
> blah blah blah
>
> \starttextrule[top]{Testing head}
> blah blah blah
> \stoptextrule
>
> blah blah blah
>
> \stoptext
>
> doesn't, and this possibility is explain in the doc, but apparently it doesn't work.
> So either the doc is wrong, the command is wrong or I'm doing something wrong :-D
Remove "[top]" from \starttextrule. All possible combinations are:
\starttext
blah blah blah
\textrule{Top}
blah blah blah
\textrule
blah blah blah
\textrule[top]{Top}
blah blah blah
\textrule
blah blah blah
\textrule[top]{Top}
blah blah blah
\textrule[bottom]{Bottom}
blah blah blah
\textrule[top]{Top}
blah blah blah
\textrule[middle]{Middle}
blah blah blah
\textrule[bottom]{Bottom}
blah blah blah
\starttextrule{Top}
blah blah blah
\stoptextrule
blah blah blah
\stoptext
Wolfgang
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* Re: MKII & MKIV difference between \textrule
2012-09-15 7:28 ` Wolfgang Schuster
@ 2012-09-15 10:00 ` Alessandro Perucchi
2012-09-15 10:23 ` Sietse Brouwer
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From: Alessandro Perucchi @ 2012-09-15 10:00 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On 15 sept. 2012, at 09:28, Wolfgang Schuster <wolfgang.schuster@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Remove "[top]" from \starttextrule. All possible combinations are:
>
> (...)
Hello Wolfgang,
Thanks, now I understand how this command works.
So probably it would be good to correct the documentation accordingly ( even if all coders hate that part :-D ) Or maybe update the wiki... Is anybody able to modify the wiki? if yes then I would be more than happy to do it.
Sincerely yours,
Alessandro
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* Re: MKII & MKIV difference between \textrule
2012-09-15 10:00 ` Alessandro Perucchi
@ 2012-09-15 10:23 ` Sietse Brouwer
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From: Sietse Brouwer @ 2012-09-15 10:23 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Hi Alessandro,
On Sat, Sep 15, 2012 at 12:00 PM, Alessandro Perucchi
<alessandro@perucchi.org> wrote:
> So probably it would be good to correct the documentation
> accordingly ( even if all coders hate that part :-D ) Or maybe
> update the > wiki... Is anybody able to modify the wiki? if
> yes then I would be more than happy to do it.
Yes, anybody can edit the wiki once the make an account. You're more
than welcome to! Here is the page on textrule:
http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Command/textrule
Cheers,
Sietse
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* Re: MKII & MKIV difference between \textrule
2012-09-14 11:26 ` Wolfgang Schuster
2012-09-14 21:50 ` Alessandro Perucchi
@ 2012-09-16 10:39 ` Hans Hagen
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From: Hans Hagen @ 2012-09-16 10:39 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On 14-9-2012 13:26, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
>
> Am 14.09.2012 um 00:08 schrieb Alessandro Perucchi <alessandro@perucchi.org>:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> In my experimentation, I've found that in mkii and mkiv the behavior of \textrule and \setuptextrule are different...
>>
>> What I did was quite simple:
>>
>> \textrule{Testing head}
>> blah blah blah
>> \textrule
>>
>> in mkii the text in well centered between the lines.
>> But in mkiv the bottom line is too near the text, and I need to add something like \blank[halfline] to have a similar behavior as mkii.
>
> There is a vertical skip missing in the MkIV version of the macros.
>
> pack-mrl.mkiv
>
> \def\pack_textrule_following#1%
> {\doifelsenothing{#1}
> - {\nointerlineskip
> + {\vskip\dimexpr\strutdp+.5ex\ifdim\prevdepth>\strutdp\else\ifdim\prevdepth>\zeropoint-\prevdepth\fi\fi\relax
> + \nointerlineskip
> \dontleavehmode\vbox
> {\color[\directtextrulesparameter\c!rulecolor]
> {\hrule\s!depth\directtextrulesparameter\c!rulethickness\s!height\zeropoint\s!width\availablehsize}}}
> {\pack_textrule_with_text{#1}}%
> \ifvmode
> \prevdepth\zeropoint
> \fi}
actually that's the commented code ...
\pack_textrule_correct_depth
... i'm still not that convinced if that correction always looks right
(i've reenabled it but it might become an option)
>
>> And apparently the command \starttextrule ... \stoptextrule doesn't work (this was explain in the cont-entp.pdf page 204) in either mkii & mliv.
>
> This does work for me:
>
> \starttext
>
> blah blah blah
>
> \starttextrule{Testing head}
> blah blah blah
> \stoptextrule
>
> blah blah blah
>
> \stoptext
>
> Wolfgang
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