Headers / footers. Enhancement requests?

Headers / footers. Enhancement requests?

[Giuseppe Bilotta]

Hello,

this comes out from a couple of question on ConTeXt header/footer
setups on the Italian TeX newsgroup. It basically turns into two
'enhancement request':

(1) ability to define left, middle and right header/footer-texts:
currently I can define EITHER left & right OR middle, but not all
of them. Maybe a syntax like

\setupheadertexts[left=pagenumber,right=chapter,middle=date]

in addition to the preexistent one.

(2) frame stuff attached to the header and footer both as a whole
and as separate 'blocks' (left, middle, right).

I need (2) basically to add a rule under the header, which by
now I must add using something like

\def\HFLine{\hskip\marginwidth\hskip\margindistance%
            \vrule height 10pt depth -9.8pt width\textwidth}
\setupheader[after=\HFLine]

which doesn't sound very ConTeXtish. Boxing/framing would allow
for interesting effects with not too much effort.

--
Giuseppe "Oblomov" Bilotta

Re: Headers / footers. Enhancement requests?

[Taco Hoekwater]

On Wed, 16 Jan 2002 17:06:12 +0100
"Giuseppe Bilotta" <bourbaki@bigfoot.com> wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> this comes out from a couple of question on ConTeXt header/footer
> setups on the Italian TeX newsgroup. It basically turns into two
> 'enhancement request':
> 
> (1) ability to define left, middle and right header/footer-texts:
> currently I can define EITHER left & right OR middle, but not all
> of them. Maybe a syntax like
> 
> \setupheadertexts[left=pagenumber,right=chapter,middle=date]

Then I would go for:

\setupheadertexts[left][middle][right]
                 [left][middle][right]

Or so.

> (2) frame stuff attached to the header and footer both as a whole
> and as separate 'blocks' (left, middle, right).

I want this as too. :)

-- 
groeten,

Taco

Re[2]: Headers / footers. Enhancement requests?

[Giuseppe Bilotta]

Thursday, January 17, 2002 Taco Hoekwater wrote:
>> (1) ability to define left, middle and right header/footer-texts:
>> currently I can define EITHER left & right OR middle, but not all
>> of them. Maybe a syntax like
>> 
>> \setupheadertexts[left=pagenumber,right=chapter,middle=date]

TH> Then I would go for:

TH> \setupheadertexts[left][middle][right]
TH>                  [left][middle][right]

This would be fine if you use all six fields, but if you only use
three (as in same layout for both odd and even pages), this would break
backwards compatibility (three fields are now used for something
else); unless there is some way to determine what the meaning of
the fields are.

TH> Or so.

Re[2]: Headers / footers. Enhancement requests?

[Hans Hagen]

At 11:55 PM 1/17/2002 +0100, Giuseppe Bilotta wrote:

> >> \setupheadertexts[left=pagenumber,right=chapter,middle=date]
>
>TH> Then I would go for:

Ah, it surpises me that source code loving taco and mr. bigfoot did not 
find the answer in the source

\setupheader
   [  lefttext=...,
     righttext=...,
    middletext=...,
    margintext=...,
      edgetext=...]

an optional first arg can be used to specify the five horizontal areas

Hans

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Re[3]: Headers / footers. Enhancement requests?

[Giuseppe Bilotta]

Sunday, January 20, 2002 Hans Hagen wrote:

HH> At 11:55 PM 1/17/2002 +0100, Giuseppe Bilotta wrote:

>> >> \setupheadertexts[left=pagenumber,right=chapter,middle=date]
>>
>>TH> Then I would go for:

HH> Ah, it surpises me that source code loving taco and mr. bigfoot did not 
HH> find the answer in the source

HH> \setupheader
HH>    [  lefttext=...,
HH>      righttext=...,
HH>     middletext=...,
HH>     margintext=...,
HH>       edgetext=...]

HH> an optional first arg can be used to specify the five horizontal areas

Uhm. That's not exactly the same: you cannot simply use
pagenumber, chapter, section etc as you would with

\setupheadertexts[pagenumber][chapter]

--
Giuseppe "Oblomov" Bilotta

Re[3]: Headers / footers. Enhancement requests?

[Hans Hagen]

At 04:27 PM 1/21/2002 +0100, Giuseppe Bilotta wrote:

>Sunday, January 20, 2002 Hans Hagen wrote:
>
>HH> At 11:55 PM 1/17/2002 +0100, Giuseppe Bilotta wrote:
>
> >> >> \setupheadertexts[left=pagenumber,right=chapter,middle=date]
> >>
> >>TH> Then I would go for:
>
>HH> Ah, it surpises me that source code loving taco and mr. bigfoot did not
>HH> find the answer in the source
>
>HH> \setupheader
>HH>    [  lefttext=...,
>HH>      righttext=...,
>HH>     middletext=...,
>HH>     margintext=...,
>HH>       edgetext=...]
>
>HH> an optional first arg can be used to specify the five horizontal areas
>
>Uhm. That's not exactly the same: you cannot simply use
>pagenumber, chapter, section etc as you would with
>
>\setupheadertexts[pagenumber][chapter]

well, but you can assign \pagenumer and \getmarking to achieve the same result

Hans

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Re[4]: Headers / footers. Enhancement requests?

[Giuseppe Bilotta]

Tuesday, January 22, 2002 Hans Hagen wrote:

>>Uhm. That's not exactly the same: you cannot simply use
>>pagenumber, chapter, section etc as you would with
>>
>>\setupheadertexts[pagenumber][chapter]

HH> well, but you can assign \pagenumer and \getmarking to achieve the same result

Right.

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Giuseppe "Oblomov" Bilotta

Re: Headers / footers. Enhancement requests?

[Hans Hagen]

At 02:06 AM 1/17/2002 +0100, Giuseppe Bilotta wrote:

>(1) ability to define left, middle and right header/footer-texts:
>currently I can define EITHER left & right OR middle, but not all
>of them. Maybe a syntax like
>
>\setupheadertexts[left=pagenumber,right=chapter,middle=date]
>
>in addition to the preexistent one.

see other mail

>(2) frame stuff attached to the header and footer both as a whole
>and as separate 'blocks' (left, middle, right).
>
>I need (2) basically to add a rule under the header, which by
>now I must add using something like
>
>\def\HFLine{\hskip\marginwidth\hskip\margindistance%
>             \vrule height 10pt depth -9.8pt width\textwidth}
>\setupheader[after=\HFLine]
>
>which doesn't sound very ConTeXtish. Boxing/framing would allow
>for interesting effects with not too much effort.

Of course we can cook up an unreadable syntax for defining such lines, but 
then your friends start asking for other things, so how aboutthe followingm 
very contexy way:

\setuplayout
   [margin=1cm,header=14pt,headerdistance=6pt]

\setupheadertexts
   [oeps][oeps]

\startuseMPgraphic{page}
   StartPage ;
     draw
       llcorner Field[LeftMargin][Header] --
       lrcorner Field[Text]      [Header] ;
   StopPage ;
\stopuseMPgraphic

\defineoverlay[page][\useMPgraphic{page}]
\setupbackgrounds[page][background=page]

\starttext \input tufte \stoptext

this way you can make any line (straight, bend, with ornaments, etc) you want

Hans

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Re[2]: Headers / footers. Enhancement requests?

[Giuseppe Bilotta]

Sunday, January 20, 2002 Hans Hagen wrote:

>>(2) frame stuff attached to the header and footer both as a whole
>>and as separate 'blocks' (left, middle, right).

HH> Of course we can cook up an unreadable syntax for defining
HH> such lines, but then your friends start asking for other
HH> things, so how aboutthe followingm very contexy way:

[snip]

HH> \starttext \input tufte \stoptext

HH> this way you can make any line (straight, bend, with ornaments, etc) you want

Well that's a nice thing to know! Thanks.

--
Giuseppe "Oblomov" Bilotta