* Bug in reference to sections
@ 2013-01-23 7:39 Otared Kavian
2013-01-23 8:12 ` Wolfgang Schuster
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From: Otared Kavian @ 2013-01-23 7:39 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Hi Hans,
I noticed that with the latest mkiv (version 2013.01.22 18:33 MKIV fmt: 2013.1.22) when the sections have no numbers two « ! » are printed and this behavior is new: with previous versions when invoking for instance
\in{other section}[sec:other]
there used to be a link to the "other section" and no « ! ! ». I understand that there has been a change in this behavior, but is there a way to suppress the two « ! ! »?
Here is a minimal example:
%%%% begin bug-reference.tex
\setupinteraction[state=start]
\setuphead[section][number=no]
\starttext
\section{First Section}
\input knuth.tex
See the \in{other section}[sec:other] below.
\page
\section[sec:other]{\bf Second Section}
Here is another section.
\input ward.tex
\setuphead[section][number=yes]
\section{Third Section}
\input knuth.tex
See the \in{other section}[sec:other-2] below.
\page
\section[sec:other-2]{\bf Fourth Section}
Here another section.
\input ward.tex
\stoptext
%%%% end bug-reference.tex
Best regards: OK
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2013-01-23 7:39 Bug in reference to sections Otared Kavian
@ 2013-01-23 8:12 ` Wolfgang Schuster
2013-01-23 8:38 ` Hans Hagen
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From: Wolfgang Schuster @ 2013-01-23 8:12 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Am 23.01.2013 um 08:39 schrieb Otared Kavian <otared@gmail.com>:
> Hi Hans,
>
> I noticed that with the latest mkiv (version 2013.01.22 18:33 MKIV fmt: 2013.1.22) when the sections have no numbers two « ! » are printed and this behavior is new: with previous versions when invoking for instance
> \in{other section}[sec:other]
> there used to be a link to the "other section" and no « ! ! ». I understand that there has been a change in this behavior, but is there a way to suppress the two « ! ! »?
IIRC this was a feature request a while ago, the macros to print ?? and !! are defined as
\def\dummyreference{{\tttf ??}}
\def\wrongreference{{\tttf !!}}
Wolfgang
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2013-01-23 8:12 ` Wolfgang Schuster
@ 2013-01-23 8:38 ` Hans Hagen
2013-01-23 8:59 ` Hans Hagen
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From: Hans Hagen @ 2013-01-23 8:38 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On 1/23/2013 9:12 AM, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
>
> Am 23.01.2013 um 08:39 schrieb Otared Kavian <otared@gmail.com>:
>
>> Hi Hans,
>>
>> I noticed that with the latest mkiv (version 2013.01.22 18:33 MKIV fmt: 2013.1.22) when the sections have no numbers two « ! » are printed and this behavior is new: with previous versions when invoking for instance
>> \in{other section}[sec:other]
>> there used to be a link to the "other section" and no « ! ! ». I understand that there has been a change in this behavior, but is there a way to suppress the two « ! ! »?
>
> IIRC this was a feature request a while ago, the macros to print ?? and !! are defined as
>
> \def\dummyreference{{\tttf ??}}
> \def\wrongreference{{\tttf !!}}
As there are indeed side effects I'll remove that options. Asking for a
number of an unnumbered section is weird anyway.
Hans
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2013-01-23 8:38 ` Hans Hagen
@ 2013-01-23 8:59 ` Hans Hagen
2013-01-23 9:37 ` Marco Patzer
2013-01-23 10:10 ` Otared Kavian
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From: Hans Hagen @ 2013-01-23 8:59 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On 1/23/2013 9:38 AM, Hans Hagen wrote:
> On 1/23/2013 9:12 AM, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
>>
>> Am 23.01.2013 um 08:39 schrieb Otared Kavian <otared@gmail.com>:
>>
>>> Hi Hans,
>>>
>>> I noticed that with the latest mkiv (version 2013.01.22 18:33 MKIV
>>> fmt: 2013.1.22) when the sections have no numbers two « ! » are
>>> printed and this behavior is new: with previous versions when
>>> invoking for instance
>>> \in{other section}[sec:other]
>>> there used to be a link to the "other section" and no « ! ! ». I
>>> understand that there has been a change in this behavior, but is
>>> there a way to suppress the two « ! ! »?
>>
>> IIRC this was a feature request a while ago, the macros to print ??
>> and !! are defined as
>>
>> \def\dummyreference{{\tttf ??}}
>> \def\wrongreference{{\tttf !!}}
>
> As there are indeed side effects I'll remove that options. Asking for a
> number of an unnumbered section is weird anyway.
next beta:
\enabletrackers[structures.referencing.empty]
\starttext
\startfrontmatter
\chapter[test]{TEST}
\stopfrontmatter
\in{}[test]
\stoptext
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2013-01-23 8:38 ` Hans Hagen
2013-01-23 8:59 ` Hans Hagen
@ 2013-01-23 9:37 ` Marco Patzer
2013-01-23 10:10 ` Otared Kavian
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From: Marco Patzer @ 2013-01-23 9:37 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On 2013–01–23 Hans Hagen wrote:
> >IIRC this was a feature request a while ago, the macros to print ?? and !! are defined as
I'm the one to blame!
> >
> >\def\dummyreference{{\tttf ??}}
> >\def\wrongreference{{\tttf !!}}
>
> As there are indeed side effects I'll remove that options.
I hope you mean that you change the default back to the old
behaviour and the dummy text can be activated using the tracker.
> Asking for a number of an unnumbered section is weird anyway.
Sure, it doesn't make sense. But it happens if the style changes
halfway during production. In my case I had to change the \in to
\about for the unnumbered sections. Since I couldn't find a regular
expression for that, I had to change it manually and forgot a few.
If a dummy text is printed, it's easy to grep for that.
Marco
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2013-01-23 8:38 ` Hans Hagen
2013-01-23 8:59 ` Hans Hagen
2013-01-23 9:37 ` Marco Patzer
@ 2013-01-23 10:10 ` Otared Kavian
2013-01-23 12:15 ` Hans Hagen
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From: Otared Kavian @ 2013-01-23 10:10 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On 23 janv. 2013, at 09:38, Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> wrote:
> As there are indeed side effects I'll remove that options. Asking for a number of an unnumbered section is weird anyway.
>
Hi,
Thanks to Hans and Wolfgang for your attention and the workarounds you offer.
When I want to refer to an un-numbered section, it makes sense in an interactive document. Maybe, instead of
\in{other section}[sec:other]
I should use another command such as
\about[sec:other]
but in this case all the title of the section in question will be typeset: this is fine when this title is short enough, but it may be ugly if the title is long, or when one wishes to refer to that section by a paraphrase.
Best regards: OK
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2013-01-23 10:10 ` Otared Kavian
@ 2013-01-23 12:15 ` Hans Hagen
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From: Hans Hagen @ 2013-01-23 12:15 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On 1/23/2013 11:10 AM, Otared Kavian wrote:
> Thanks to Hans and Wolfgang for your attention and the workarounds you offer.
> When I want to refer to an un-numbered section, it makes sense in an interactive document. Maybe, instead of
> \in{other section}[sec:other]
> I should use another command such as
> \about[sec:other]
> but in this case all the title of the section in question will be typeset: this is fine when this title is short enough, but it may be ugly if the title is long, or when one wishes to refer to that section by a paraphrase.
or \goto
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