* (mkii) language-specific options for \placeregister[index] ?
@ 2007-12-19 9:47 Steffen Wolfrum
2007-12-19 13:45 ` Wolfgang Schuster
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From: Steffen Wolfrum @ 2007-12-19 9:47 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Hi,
the following (with mkii) is probably not the most pressuring topic
to most of you ... apologies!
Although I have set \mainlanguage[de] the register seems to be
unaffected. All my cultural heritage (i.e. the Umaut) is ignored!!!
o(
The problem is the sorting – keywords containing umlauts seem to be
sorted after "e":
Bestimmung
Bühler
Bildung
Are there language-specific arguments/options for \placeregister[index]?
Thanks,
Steffen
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* Re: (mkii) language-specific options for \placeregister[index] ?
2007-12-19 9:47 (mkii) language-specific options for \placeregister[index] ? Steffen Wolfrum
@ 2007-12-19 13:45 ` Wolfgang Schuster
2007-12-19 21:01 ` Steffen Wolfrum
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From: Wolfgang Schuster @ 2007-12-19 13:45 UTC (permalink / raw)
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2007/12/19, Steffen Wolfrum <context@st.estfiles.de>:
> Hi,
>
> the following (with mkii) is probably not the most pressuring topic
> to most of you ... apologies!
>
>
> Although I have set \mainlanguage[de] the register seems to be
> unaffected. All my cultural heritage (i.e. the Umaut) is ignored!!!
>
> o(
>
> The problem is the sorting – keywords containing umlauts seem to be
> sorted after "e":
>
> Bestimmung
> Bühler
> Bildung
>
> Are there language-specific arguments/options for \placeregister[index]?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Steffen
Hi Steffen,
Can you post a example where this did happen for you.
Wolfgang
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* Re: (mkii) language-specific options for \placeregister[index] ?
2007-12-19 13:45 ` Wolfgang Schuster
@ 2007-12-19 21:01 ` Steffen Wolfrum
2007-12-21 14:55 ` Wolfgang Schuster
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From: Steffen Wolfrum @ 2007-12-19 21:01 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Am 19.12.2007 um 14:45 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster:
> 2007/12/19, Steffen Wolfrum <context@st.estfiles.de>:
>> Hi,
>>
>> the following (with mkii) is probably not the most pressuring topic
>> to most of you ... apologies!
>>
>>
>> Although I have set \mainlanguage[de] the register seems
>> to be
>> unaffected. All my cultural heritage (i.e. the Umaut) is ignored!!!
>>
>> o(
>>
>> The problem is the sorting – keywords containing umlauts seem to be
>> sorted after "e":
>>
>> Bestimmung
>> Bühler
>> Bildung
>>
>> Are there language-specific arguments/options for
>> \placeregister[index]?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Steffen
>
> Hi Steffen,
>
> Can you post a example where this did happen for you.
Sure, attached you may find a tiny zipped folder called
"sort_test" (6.2KB).
Inside there are 2 chapter files, an environment file and two test
files:
"right.tex" includes the chapter files via input: here the register's
order is right.
"wrong.tex" includes the chapters as components via ConTeXt's project
strcture: here the register's order is wrong.
Unfortunately I always use this very nice project structure and thus
all my registers were wrong and needed to be sorted manually ;o(
Steffen
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* Re: (mkii) language-specific options for \placeregister[index] ?
2007-12-19 21:01 ` Steffen Wolfrum
@ 2007-12-21 14:55 ` Wolfgang Schuster
2007-12-21 17:34 ` Hans Hagen
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From: Wolfgang Schuster @ 2007-12-21 14:55 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ntg-context
On Wed, 19 Dec 2007 22:01:14 +0100
Steffen Wolfrum <context@st.estfiles.de> wrote:
> Am 19.12.2007 um 14:45 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster:
>
> > 2007/12/19, Steffen Wolfrum <context@st.estfiles.de>:
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> the following (with mkii) is probably not the most pressuring topic
> >> to most of you ... apologies!
> >>
> >> Although I have set \mainlanguage[de] the register seems
> >> to be
> >> unaffected. All my cultural heritage (i.e. the Umaut) is ignored!!!
> >>
> >> o(
> >>
> >> The problem is the sorting – keywords containing umlauts seem to be
> >> sorted after "e":
> >>
> >> Bestimmung
> >> Bühler
> >> Bildung
> >>
> >> Are there language-specific arguments/options for
> >> \placeregister[index]?
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >> Steffen
> >
> > Hi Steffen,
> >
> > Can you post a example where this did happen for you.
Hi Hans and all others,
I found the reason for the wrong index sorting in Steffens files.
The correct sorted file contains something like this.
\enableregime[utf]
\starttext
text\index{Bestimmung} text\index{Bühler} text\index{Bildung} text
\placeindex
\stoptext
The text is enclosed by the normal start/stoptext pair and the document
setup is written before the start of the document while the wrong file
contains this:
\starttext
\enableregime[utf]
text\index{Bestimmung} text\index{Bühler} text\index{Bildung} text
\placeindex
\stoptext
The files did not really contain start/stop but use ConTeXts document
structure and \everystarttext is executed by \startpoduct, the first
command in the product file.
The problem is now, ConTeXt write information for the index sorting
into the tui file and a few additional entries for every spcifiec file
encoding, in this utf-8.
This works quite well in the first example because \enableregime is
writte before \starttext while in the second example the sorting
information are written before ConTeXt knows the file encoding.
A workaround for the moment is to write \enableregime before
\startproduct in the main file but I hope this coule be fiyed in the
next release.
I still wonder why nobody noticed this untill now.
Wolfgang
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2007-12-21 14:55 ` Wolfgang Schuster
@ 2007-12-21 17:34 ` Hans Hagen
2007-12-21 18:01 ` Wolfgang Schuster
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From: Hans Hagen @ 2007-12-21 17:34 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
> The problem is now, ConTeXt write information for the index sorting
> into the tui file and a few additional entries for every spcifiec file
> encoding, in this utf-8.
writing the sort vector is hooked into starttext
> This works quite well in the first example because \enableregime is
> writte before \starttext while in the second example the sorting
> information are written before ConTeXt knows the file encoding.
>
> A workaround for the moment is to write \enableregime before
> \startproduct in the main file but I hope this coule be fiyed in the
> next release.
i'll find another hook
> I still wonder why nobody noticed this untill now.
maybe because of \expanded names, \eacute still sorts somewhat right
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2007-12-21 17:34 ` Hans Hagen
@ 2007-12-21 18:01 ` Wolfgang Schuster
2007-12-21 18:35 ` Hans Hagen
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From: Wolfgang Schuster @ 2007-12-21 18:01 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ntg-context
On Fri, 21 Dec 2007 18:34:32 +0100
Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> wrote:
> Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
>
> > The problem is now, ConTeXt write information for the index sorting
> > into the tui file and a few additional entries for every spcifiec file
> > encoding, in this utf-8.
>
> writing the sort vector is hooked into starttext
I realized this myself, because the only difference between both
version had been the file size of the tui files.
> > This works quite well in the first example because \enableregime is
> > writte before \starttext while in the second example the sorting
> > information are written before ConTeXt knows the file encoding.
> >
> > A workaround for the moment is to write \enableregime before
> > \startproduct in the main file but I hope this coule be fiyed in the
> > next release.
>
> i'll find another hook
>
> > I still wonder why nobody noticed this untill now.
>
> maybe because of \expanded names, \eacute still sorts somewhat right
I found this solution also but it is easier to write ä, ü ... instead
of \aumlaut, \uumlaut etc.
BTW, why could I use only \aumlaut in macros but not \adiaresis.
Wolfgang
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