From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/81209 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Hans Hagen Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: etexshow and generation of cont-en.xlm (cont-XX.xml)? Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2013 00:16:43 +0100 Message-ID: <5147A05B.7000406@wxs.nl> References: Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1363648607 18821 80.91.229.3 (18 Mar 2013 23:16:47 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2013 23:16:47 +0000 (UTC) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Tue Mar 19 00:17:13 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([195.12.62.10]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UHjIn-0000Zs-5I for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Tue, 19 Mar 2013 00:17:13 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6C71101E3; Tue, 19 Mar 2013 00:16:49 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at balder.ntg.nl Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (balder.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id ws59TdazxKf8; Tue, 19 Mar 2013 00:16:47 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABAD8101EB; Tue, 19 Mar 2013 00:16:47 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 880C5101EB for ; Tue, 19 Mar 2013 00:16:45 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at balder.ntg.nl Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (balder.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id GPFC7Py5dQQ4 for ; Tue, 19 Mar 2013 00:16:44 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from filter1-til.mf.surf.net (filter1-til.mf.surf.net [194.171.167.217]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C45C101E3 for ; Tue, 19 Mar 2013 00:16:44 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from smtp.ziggozakelijk.nl (D57D1DA2.static.ziggozakelijk.nl [213.125.29.162]) by filter1-til.mf.surf.net (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-9.4) with ESMTP id r2INGhJm006781 for ; Tue, 19 Mar 2013 00:16:43 +0100 X-Default-Received-SPF: pass (skip=loggedin (res=PASS)) x-ip-name=10.100.1.103; Original-Received: from [10.100.1.103] (unverified [10.100.1.103]) by pragma-net.nl (SurgeMail 6.1c) with ESMTP (TLS) id 11831-1713362 for multiple; Tue, 19 Mar 2013 00:16:40 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.2; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130307 Thunderbird/17.0.4 In-Reply-To: X-Authenticated-User: hagen@controller-9 X-Bayes-Prob: 0.0001 (Score 0, tokens from: @@RPTN) X-CanIt-Geo: ip=213.125.29.162; country=NL; region=11; city=Den Haag; latitude=52.0833; longitude=4.3000; http://maps.google.com/maps?q=52.0833,4.3000&z=6 X-CanItPRO-Stream: uu:ntg-context@ntg.nl (inherits from uu:default, base:default) X-Canit-Stats-ID: 0RJdbgHLd - e52445ac0fc8 - 20130319 (trained as not-spam) X-Scanned-By: CanIt (www . roaringpenguin . com) on 194.171.167.217 X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:81209 Archived-At: On 3/18/2013 11:35 PM, Jonathan Barchi wrote: > Hi all, > > I'm using the emacs package etexshow to provide a quick ConTeXt > command reference in EMACS. This utility parses the interface file > cont-en.xml (for english, in my case) and uses the contents to provide > a basic dictionary of available commands. > > In the documentation for etexshow, there is a reference to being able > to generate a complete interface description (the aforementioned xml > file) like so: > > ";; There is still an xml-file shipped with this code. Usually you would > ;; generate the xml-file with 'texexec'ing the file setupe.tex. Then you > ;; will get the cont-en.xml file that can (could) be used as an input for > ;; this etexshow. But for now, this won't work. It will work rsn." > > It is not clear whether that file (setupe.tex or setup.tex) is/was > supposed to be shipped with etexshow or was supposed to be a part of > context. I've searched and found a few references to this problem, but > never a definitive answer, so if anyone knows the answer to these > questions I would love to know!! > > 1. Is the referenced setup(e).tex a file that was previously shipped > with ConTeXt - presumably mkii since the author refers to texexec - or > would this be something the author would have included with etexshow > itself? > > 2. Is the interface file, e.g. cont-en.xml, auto-generated from all of > the defined macros in ConTeXt, or is that file hand-written as > metadata to accompany the source-code definitions? the xml file is the master file (but I admit that it's a bit behind) if you only need the commands then the mult-def.lua files are better, also because they contain low level commands and primitives (it's what I use to generate files for scite where we have a rather advanced lexer) > 3. Since self-documentation is a goal of the project, is it possible > to generate something akin to the interface file that presents a > snapshot of all commands known to context at a given time, for use in > things like etexshow or other tools? If so, is it possible to do this > with modules loaded to see what they additionally define? we can add a --emacs to mtx-interfaces.lua if something other than xml is needed .. so, what does emacs need? > Thanks in advance for any help! I'm hoping to use any information I > get to update etexshow, if possible, and maybe update the ConTeXt > support in AUCTEX as well. I think it would be really cool if AUCTEX > could reach out at compile or run time and pull in macro definitions > from the installed environment, for example. 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