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34e170f8d840 - 20130410 X-Scanned-By: CanIt (www . roaringpenguin . com) on 194.171.167.221 X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:81593 Archived-At: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============1168223416== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------010805060705080408050509" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------010805060705080408050509 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Am 10.04.2013 10:29, schrieb ntg-context-request@ntg.nl: > mtxrun --script font --list --all --pattern=*garamond* I got this: +++++++++++++++++++++++ adobegaramondpro agaramondprobold c:/windows/fonts/AGaramondPro-Bold.otf adobegaramondprobold agaramondprobold c:/windows/fonts/AGaramondPro-Bold.otf adobegaramondproitalic agaramondprobolditalic c:/windows/fonts/AGaramondPro-BoldItalic.otf adobegaramondpronormal agaramondproitalic c:/windows/fonts/AGaramondPro-Italic.otf adobegaramondproregular agaramondprobold c:/windows/fonts/AGaramondPro-Bold.otf agaramondprobold agaramondprobold c:/windows/fonts/AGaramondPro-Bold.otf agaramondprobolditalic agaramondprobolditalic c:/windows/fonts/AGaramondPro-BoldItalic.otf agaramondproitalic agaramondproitalic c:/windows/fonts/AGaramondPro-Italic.otf agaramondproregular agaramondproregular c:/windows/fonts/AGaramondPro-Regular.otf ebgaramond ebgaramond08regular c:/windows/fonts/EBGaramond08-Regular.otf ebgaramond08regular ebgaramond08regular c:/windows/fonts/EBGaramond08-Regular.otf ebgaramond08regularsmallcaps ebgaramond08sc c:/windows/fonts/EBGaramond08-SC.otf ebgaramond08sc ebgaramond08sc c:/windows/fonts/EBGaramond08-SC.otf ebgaramond12allsc ebgaramond12allsc c:/windows/fonts/EBGaramond12-AllSC.otf ebgaramond12allscnormal ebgaramond12allsc c:/windows/fonts/EBGaramond12-AllSC.otf ebgaramond12italic ebgaramond12italic c:/windows/fonts/EBGaramond12-Italic.otf ebgaramond12regular ebgaramond12regular c:/windows/fonts/EBGaramond12-Regular.otf ebgaramond12regularallsmallcaps ebgaramond12allsc c:/windows/fonts/EBGaramond12-AllSC.otf ebgaramond12regularsmallcaps ebgaramond12sc c:/windows/fonts/EBGaramond12-SC.otf ebgaramond12sc ebgaramond12sc c:/windows/fonts/EBGaramond12-SC.otf ebgaramondinitials ebgaramondinitials c:/windows/fonts/EBGaramond-Initials.otf ebgaramondinitialsf1 ebgaramondinitialsf1 c:/windows/fonts/EBGaramond-InitialsF1.otf ebgaramondinitialsf2 ebgaramondinitialsf2 c:/windows/fonts/EBGaramond-InitialsF2.otf ebgaramondinitialsfill1 ebgaramondinitialsf1 c:/windows/fonts/EBGaramond-InitialsF1.otf ebgaramondinitialsfill1normal ebgaramondinitialsf1 c:/windows/fonts/EBGaramond-InitialsF1.otf ebgaramondinitialsfill1regular ebgaramondinitialsf1 c:/windows/fonts/EBGaramond-InitialsF1.otf ebgaramondinitialsfill2 ebgaramondinitialsf2 c:/windows/fonts/EBGaramond-InitialsF2.otf ebgaramondinitialsfill2normal ebgaramondinitialsf2 c:/windows/fonts/EBGaramond-InitialsF2.otf ebgaramondinitialsfill2regular ebgaramondinitialsf2 c:/windows/fonts/EBGaramond-InitialsF2.otf ebgaramondinitialsnormal ebgaramondinitials c:/windows/fonts/EBGaramond-Initials.otf ebgaramondinitialsregular ebgaramondinitials c:/windows/fonts/EBGaramond-Initials.otf ebgaramonditalic ebgaramond12italic c:/windows/fonts/EBGaramond12-Italic.otf ebgaramondnormal ebgaramond08regular c:/windows/fonts/EBGaramond08-Regular.otf ebgaramondregular ebgaramond08regular c:/windows/fonts/EBGaramond08-Regular.otf ebgaramondsc ebgaramond08sc c:/windows/fonts/EBGaramond08-SC.otf garamond garamond c:/windows/fonts/GARA.TTF garamondantiqua garamondantiqua c:/windows/fonts/91545.ttf garamondbold garamondbold c:/windows/fonts/GARABD.TTF garamondhalbfett garamondhalbfett c:/windows/fonts/91547.ttf garamonditalic garamonditalic c:/windows/fonts/GARAIT.TTF garamondkursiv garamondkursiv c:/windows/fonts/91546.ttf garamondkursivhalbfett garamondkursivhalbfett c:/windows/fonts/91548.ttf garamondnormal garamondantiqua c:/windows/fonts/91545.ttf stempelgaramondbold stempelgaramondbold c:/windows/fonts/11547.ttf stempelgaramondbolditalic stempelgaramondbolditalic c:/windows/fonts/11548.ttf stempelgaramonditalic stempelgaramonditalic c:/windows/fonts/11546.ttf stempelgaramondroman stempelgaramondroman c:/windows/fonts/11545.ttf stempelgaramondromanbold stempelgaramondbold c:/windows/fonts/11547.ttf stempelgaramondromanbolditalic stempelgaramondbolditalic c:/windows/fonts/11548.ttf stempelgaramondromanitalic stempelgaramonditalic c:/windows/fonts/11546.ttf stempelgaramondromannormal stempelgaramondroman c:/windows/fonts/11545.ttf ++++++++++++++++++++++ Maybe too many different garamonds? Another interesting question: I compared the results using the Simplefont solution and your Typescript solution, both with hanging. Both works, but it is not the same output. It seems, that with Simplefont it is "nicer", in the following sence: The distance between a capital of a beginning word to the next letter it better typed, f.e. in "Hans Meier" the distance of "H" to "ans" could be too much in the typescript example, but is perfect with Simplefont. Where does this difference in typography between Typescript and Simplefont comes from? Huseyin --------------010805060705080408050509 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Am 10.04.2013 10:29, schrieb ntg-context-request@ntg.nl:
mtxrun --script font --list --all --pattern=*garamond*
I got this:
+++++++++++++++++++++++
adobegaramondpro                  agaramondprobold            c:/windows/fonts/AGaramondPro-Bold.otf
adobegaramondprobold              agaramondprobold            c:/windows/fonts/AGaramondPro-Bold.otf
adobegaramondproitalic            agaramondprobolditalic      c:/windows/fonts/AGaramondPro-BoldItalic.otf
adobegaramondpronormal            agaramondproitalic          c:/windows/fonts/AGaramondPro-Italic.otf
adobegaramondproregular           agaramondprobold            c:/windows/fonts/AGaramondPro-Bold.otf
agaramondprobold                  agaramondprobold            c:/windows/fonts/AGaramondPro-Bold.otf
agaramondprobolditalic            agaramondprobolditalic      c:/windows/fonts/AGaramondPro-BoldItalic.otf
agaramondproitalic                agaramondproitalic          c:/windows/fonts/AGaramondPro-Italic.otf
agaramondproregular               agaramondproregular         c:/windows/fonts/AGaramondPro-Regular.otf
ebgaramond                        ebgaramond08regular         c:/windows/fonts/EBGaramond08-Regular.otf
ebgaramond08regular               ebgaramond08regular         c:/windows/fonts/EBGaramond08-Regular.otf
ebgaramond08regularsmallcaps      ebgaramond08sc              c:/windows/fonts/EBGaramond08-SC.otf
ebgaramond08sc                    ebgaramond08sc              c:/windows/fonts/EBGaramond08-SC.otf
ebgaramond12allsc                 ebgaramond12allsc           c:/windows/fonts/EBGaramond12-AllSC.otf
ebgaramond12allscnormal           ebgaramond12allsc           c:/windows/fonts/EBGaramond12-AllSC.otf
ebgaramond12italic                ebgaramond12italic          c:/windows/fonts/EBGaramond12-Italic.otf
ebgaramond12regular               ebgaramond12regular         c:/windows/fonts/EBGaramond12-Regular.otf
ebgaramond12regularallsmallcaps   ebgaramond12allsc           c:/windows/fonts/EBGaramond12-AllSC.otf
ebgaramond12regularsmallcaps      ebgaramond12sc              c:/windows/fonts/EBGaramond12-SC.otf
ebgaramond12sc                    ebgaramond12sc              c:/windows/fonts/EBGaramond12-SC.otf
ebgaramondinitials                ebgaramondinitials          c:/windows/fonts/EBGaramond-Initials.otf
ebgaramondinitialsf1              ebgaramondinitialsf1        c:/windows/fonts/EBGaramond-InitialsF1.otf
ebgaramondinitialsf2              ebgaramondinitialsf2        c:/windows/fonts/EBGaramond-InitialsF2.otf
ebgaramondinitialsfill1           ebgaramondinitialsf1        c:/windows/fonts/EBGaramond-InitialsF1.otf
ebgaramondinitialsfill1normal     ebgaramondinitialsf1        c:/windows/fonts/EBGaramond-InitialsF1.otf
ebgaramondinitialsfill1regular    ebgaramondinitialsf1        c:/windows/fonts/EBGaramond-InitialsF1.otf
ebgaramondinitialsfill2           ebgaramondinitialsf2        c:/windows/fonts/EBGaramond-InitialsF2.otf
ebgaramondinitialsfill2normal     ebgaramondinitialsf2        c:/windows/fonts/EBGaramond-InitialsF2.otf
ebgaramondinitialsfill2regular    ebgaramondinitialsf2        c:/windows/fonts/EBGaramond-InitialsF2.otf
ebgaramondinitialsnormal          ebgaramondinitials          c:/windows/fonts/EBGaramond-Initials.otf
ebgaramondinitialsregular         ebgaramondinitials          c:/windows/fonts/EBGaramond-Initials.otf
ebgaramonditalic                  ebgaramond12italic          c:/windows/fonts/EBGaramond12-Italic.otf
ebgaramondnormal                  ebgaramond08regular         c:/windows/fonts/EBGaramond08-Regular.otf
ebgaramondregular                 ebgaramond08regular         c:/windows/fonts/EBGaramond08-Regular.otf
ebgaramondsc                      ebgaramond08sc              c:/windows/fonts/EBGaramond08-SC.otf
garamond                          garamond                    c:/windows/fonts/GARA.TTF
garamondantiqua                   garamondantiqua             c:/windows/fonts/91545.ttf
garamondbold                      garamondbold                c:/windows/fonts/GARABD.TTF
garamondhalbfett                  garamondhalbfett            c:/windows/fonts/91547.ttf
garamonditalic                    garamonditalic              c:/windows/fonts/GARAIT.TTF
garamondkursiv                    garamondkursiv              c:/windows/fonts/91546.ttf
garamondkursivhalbfett            garamondkursivhalbfett      c:/windows/fonts/91548.ttf
garamondnormal                    garamondantiqua             c:/windows/fonts/91545.ttf
stempelgaramondbold               stempelgaramondbold         c:/windows/fonts/11547.ttf
stempelgaramondbolditalic         stempelgaramondbolditalic   c:/windows/fonts/11548.ttf
stempelgaramonditalic             stempelgaramonditalic       c:/windows/fonts/11546.ttf
stempelgaramondroman              stempelgaramondroman        c:/windows/fonts/11545.ttf
stempelgaramondromanbold          stempelgaramondbold         c:/windows/fonts/11547.ttf
stempelgaramondromanbolditalic    stempelgaramondbolditalic   c:/windows/fonts/11548.ttf
stempelgaramondromanitalic        stempelgaramonditalic       c:/windows/fonts/11546.ttf
stempelgaramondromannormal        stempelgaramondroman        c:/windows/fonts/11545.ttf
++++++++++++++++++++++

Maybe too many different garamonds?

Another interesting question: I compared the results using the Simplefont solution and your Typescript solution, both with hanging. Both works, but it is not the same output. It seems, that with Simplefont it is "nicer", in the following sence: The distance between a capital of a beginning word to the next letter it better typed, f.e. in "Hans Meier" the distance of "H" to "ans" could be too much in the typescript example, but is perfect with Simplefont.

Where does this difference in typography between Typescript and Simplefont comes from?

Huseyin
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