From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/81633 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Hans Hagen Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: new beta Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2013 23:06:04 +0200 Message-ID: <516725BC.5090702@wxs.nl> References: <5165AAE7.3010709@wxs.nl> <87wqs8su2c.fsf@micropit.couberia.selfip.net> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; Format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1365714389 29648 80.91.229.3 (11 Apr 2013 21:06:29 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2013 21:06:29 +0000 (UTC) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Thu Apr 11 23:06:32 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from [195.12.62.10] (helo=balder.ntg.nl) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UQOhU-0008JS-O4 for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Thu, 11 Apr 2013 23:06:32 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C23A10506; Thu, 11 Apr 2013 23:06:02 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at balder.ntg.nl Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (balder.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id oYXQ7sieDHKf; Thu, 11 Apr 2013 23:06:00 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3F36104FE; Thu, 11 Apr 2013 23:06:00 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id C094E104FE for ; Thu, 11 Apr 2013 23:05:58 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at balder.ntg.nl Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (balder.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id Pdrl8XiUBEeW for ; Thu, 11 Apr 2013 23:05:57 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from filter3-ams.mf.surf.net (filter3-ams.mf.surf.net [192.87.102.71]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 726E4104F2 for ; Thu, 11 Apr 2013 23:05:57 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from smtp.ziggozakelijk.nl (D57D1DA2.static.ziggozakelijk.nl [213.125.29.162]) by filter3-ams.mf.surf.net (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-9.4) with ESMTP id r3BL5udk029064 for ; Thu, 11 Apr 2013 23:05:56 +0200 X-Default-Received-SPF: pass (skip=loggedin (res=PASS)) x-ip-name=10.100.1.101; Original-Received: from [10.100.1.101] (unverified [10.100.1.101]) by pragma-net.nl (SurgeMail 6.1c) with ESMTP (TLS) id 15602-1713362 for ; Thu, 11 Apr 2013 23:05:55 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.2; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130328 Thunderbird/17.0.5 In-Reply-To: <87wqs8su2c.fsf@micropit.couberia.selfip.net> X-Authenticated-User: hagen@controller-9 X-Bayes-Prob: 0.0001 (Score 0, tokens from: @@RPTN) X-CanIt-Geo: ip=213.125.29.162; country=NL; region=15; city=Zwolle; latitude=52.5058; longitude=6.0858; http://maps.google.com/maps?q=52.5058,6.0858&z=6 X-CanItPRO-Stream: uu:ntg-context@ntg.nl (inherits from uu:default, base:default) X-Canit-Stats-ID: 03JmJ5UqW - 329f8722ce79 - 20130411 (trained as not-spam) X-Scanned-By: CanIt (www . roaringpenguin . com) on 192.87.102.71 X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:81633 Archived-At: On 4/11/2013 10:15 PM, Peter M=FCnster wrote: > On Thu, Apr 11 2013, luigi scarso wrote: > >> It's true that "ConTEXt is always considered less math savy than LaTeX" >> not that "ConTEXt is less math savy than LaTeX". > > Perhaps better: "always" -> "often" ? Ok. Concerning math ... in many aspects the functionality of mkii is = available in mkiv, but the implementation is often completely different, = which makes that we can go a step further in control. Years ago, when he was involved in scientific publishing, Taco made sure = that mkii had most of the features needed to deal with advanced math (at = that time via a module that implemented some ams constructs). Eventually = that code was normalized, extended and integrated into the Later Aditya = added support for ams-like code too. In mkiv nearly all had been or will be redone. Some of the accumulated = implementation details are quite interesting (compared to the = traditional approach) so I might wrap that up some day in a larger = summary (chapter). I uploaded the latest hybrid.pdf to the website which = has some explanations and I'll try to keep wrapping up in future = chapters if About (and other documents). If you feel that something fundamental is missing, don't hesitate to = mention it. (Many math sub-mechanisms are relatively independent so = adding code has not much change of breaking existing code.) Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl ----------------------------------------------------------------- ___________________________________________________________________________= ________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to t= he Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-cont= ext webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________= ________