From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/112602 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Rik Kabel via ntg-context Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Indexing redux Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2021 21:14:56 -0400 Message-ID: <5193d8e1-c07e-a2f8-b5c4-9e2cb5a1276d@rik.users.panix.com> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2285907367900491913==" Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="7310"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:91.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/91.0 Thunderbird/91.0 Cc: Rik Kabel To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Thu Aug 26 03:15:51 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from zapf.boekplan.nl ([5.39.185.232] helo=zapf.ntg.nl) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mJ3zj-0001gn-Jx for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 26 Aug 2021 03:15:51 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zapf.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FBED286CE4; Thu, 26 Aug 2021 03:15:08 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at zapf.boekplan.nl Original-Received: from zapf.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zapf.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id BFkVcvBoYMQm; Thu, 26 Aug 2021 03:15:04 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from zapf.ntg.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zapf.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECDBD286CF6; Thu, 26 Aug 2021 03:15:02 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zapf.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CD6B286CAE for ; Thu, 26 Aug 2021 03:15:01 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at zapf.boekplan.nl Original-Received: from zapf.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zapf.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id k1dqTu9II3q3 for ; Thu, 26 Aug 2021 03:14:59 +0200 (CEST) Received-SPF: Pass (mailfrom) identity=mailfrom; client-ip=166.84.1.89; helo=mailbackend.panix.com; envelope-from=context@rik.users.panix.com; receiver= Original-Received: from mailbackend.panix.com (mailbackend.panix.com [166.84.1.89]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by zapf.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6FA98286CF2 for ; Thu, 26 Aug 2021 03:14:59 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from [192.168.1.106] (cpe-69-204-136-231.nycap.res.rr.com [69.204.136.231]) by mailbackend.panix.com (Postfix) with UTF8SMTPSA id 4Gw4dY4y0Cz3ryC for ; Wed, 25 Aug 2021 21:14:57 -0400 (EDT) Content-Language: en-US X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Original-Sender: "ntg-context" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.comp.tex.context:112602 Archived-At: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============2285907367900491913== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------sVCnbcEAj373weu4J5PdaMh2" Content-Language: en-US This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------sVCnbcEAj373weu4J5PdaMh2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List, I am trying to create an index with both "see" and "see also" cross-reference entries.[1] At this point, ConTeXt provides basic support for "see" entries via the \seeREGISTER command (it does not properly support references to sub-entries) and it provides no support at all for "see also" entries. Can somebody suggest a way to generate these entries? Perhaps a way of inserting entries into the index before it is formatted, in the manner of \writetolist or \writebetweenlist? (MkII has \writetoregister, but that did not carry forward and I do not know if it would have helped here.) I had brought this up to no response a couple of years ago.[2] I am hopeful that LMTX may offer a chance to get support for improved indexing, and in particular for "see" and "see also" entries. [1] For definitions and usage of "see" entries, see https://docs.oasis-open.org/dita/v1.1/OS/langspec/langref/index-see.html. For "see also" entries, see https://docs.oasis-open.org/dita/v1.1/OS/langspec/langref/index-see-also.html. For a deeper dive, see the publicly available University of Chicago Manual of Style version 15 guide, chapter 18, available at https://press.uchicago.edu/Misc/Chicago/CHIIndexingComplete.pdf, or more recent versions not yet freely available online. [2] See "Possible seeindex enhancement" at https://www.mail-archive.com/ntg-context@ntg.nl/msg89470.html. -- Rik --------------sVCnbcEAj373weu4J5PdaMh2 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List,

I am trying to create an index with both "see" and "see also" cross-reference entries.[1] At this point, ConTeXt provides basic support for "see" entries via the \seeREGISTER command (it does not properly support references to sub-entries) and it provides no support at all for "see also" entries.

Can somebody suggest a way to generate these entries? Perhaps a way of inserting entries into the index before it is formatted, in the manner of \writetolist or \writebetweenlist? (MkII has \writetoregister, but that did not carry forward and I do not know if it would have helped here.)

I had brought this up to no response a couple of years ago.[2] I am hopeful that LMTX may offer a chance to get support for improved indexing, and in particular for "see" and "see also" entries.

[1] For definitions and usage of "see" entries, see https://docs.oasis-open.org/dita/v1.1/OS/langspec/langref/index-see.html. For "see also" entries, see https://docs.oasis-open.org/dita/v1.1/OS/langspec/langref/index-see-also.html. For a deeper dive, see the publicly available University of Chicago Manual of Style version 15 guide, chapter 18, available at https://press.uchicago.edu/Misc/Chicago/CHIIndexingComplete.pdf, or more recent versions not yet freely available online.

[2] See "Possible seeindex enhancement" at https://www.mail-archive.com/ntg-context@ntg.nl/msg89470.html.

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