* bug with paragraph notes
@ 2013-06-09 11:01 Pablo Rodríguez
2013-06-09 16:55 ` Thomas A. Schmitz
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From: Pablo Rodríguez @ 2013-06-09 11:01 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Hi Hans,
as I posted to the list in the past and it has been confirmed by
Wolfgang Schuster, there is a bug that prevents the proper separation of
paragraph notes from text body.
Here you have a sample:
\setupbodyfont[pagella]
\setupnote[footnote][paragraph=yes]
\setupnotation[footnote][alternative=serried,display=no]
\starttext
\dorecurse{500}{text text text\footnote{note} }
\stoptext
Would it be possible that this bug could be fixed? (This is specially
important for critical apparati.)
Many thanks for your help,
Pablo
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* Re: bug with paragraph notes
2013-06-09 11:01 bug with paragraph notes Pablo Rodríguez
@ 2013-06-09 16:55 ` Thomas A. Schmitz
2013-06-09 17:16 ` Pablo Rodríguez
2013-06-09 17:37 ` Pablo Rodríguez
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From: Thomas A. Schmitz @ 2013-06-09 16:55 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On 06/09/2013 01:01 PM, Pablo Rodríguez wrote:
> Would it be possible that this bug could be fixed? (This is specially
> important for critical apparati.)
"apparati," eh?
Thomas
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* Re: bug with paragraph notes
2013-06-09 16:55 ` Thomas A. Schmitz
@ 2013-06-09 17:16 ` Pablo Rodríguez
2013-06-09 19:01 ` Thomas A. Schmitz
2013-06-09 17:37 ` Pablo Rodríguez
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From: Pablo Rodríguez @ 2013-06-09 17:16 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On 09/06/13 18:55, Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:
> On 06/09/2013 01:01 PM, Pablo Rodríguez wrote:
>> Would it be possible that this bug could be fixed? (This is specially
>> important for critical apparati.)
>
> "apparati," eh?
Isn't it the plural for apparatus? (I mean the Latin one, although I
might have forgotten the declensions as well.) Apparatuses sounds weird
to me.
If I'm not wrong, There is a similar rule in German (this might be the
cause of my mistake).
Pablo
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* Re: bug with paragraph notes
2013-06-09 16:55 ` Thomas A. Schmitz
2013-06-09 17:16 ` Pablo Rodríguez
@ 2013-06-09 17:37 ` Pablo Rodríguez
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From: Pablo Rodríguez @ 2013-06-09 17:37 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On 09/06/13 18:55, Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:
> On 06/09/2013 01:01 PM, Pablo Rodríguez wrote:
>> Would it be possible that this bug could be fixed? (This is specially
>> important for critical apparati.)
>
> "apparati," eh?
By the way, Thomas, haven't you found this bug in any of your editions?
Many thanks,
Pablo
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* Re: bug with paragraph notes
2013-06-09 17:16 ` Pablo Rodríguez
@ 2013-06-09 19:01 ` Thomas A. Schmitz
2013-06-10 17:32 ` Pablo Rodríguez
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From: Thomas A. Schmitz @ 2013-06-09 19:01 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On 06/09/2013 07:16 PM, Pablo Rodríguez wrote:
> Isn't it the plural for apparatus? (I mean the Latin one, although I
> might have forgotten the declensions as well.) Apparatuses sounds weird
> to me.
It's apparatus (long u, fourth declension). apparati is a pseudo-learned
form, like "virii."
> By the way, Thomas, haven't you found this bug in any of your editions?
No, I use linenotes (and, to be honest, the edition project has been in
hiatus for some time now, I need to pick it up again).
Thomas
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* Re: bug with paragraph notes
2013-06-09 19:01 ` Thomas A. Schmitz
@ 2013-06-10 17:32 ` Pablo Rodríguez
2013-06-10 18:09 ` Hans Hagen
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From: Pablo Rodríguez @ 2013-06-10 17:32 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On 09/06/13 21:01, Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:
> On 06/09/2013 07:16 PM, Pablo Rodríguez wrote:
>> Isn't it the plural for apparatus? (I mean the Latin one, although I
>> might have forgotten the declensions as well.) Apparatuses sounds weird
>> to me.
>
> It's apparatus (long u, fourth declension). apparati is a pseudo-learned
> form, like "virii."
Many thanks, Thomas, I'd never thought it was fourth declension. I
assumed it was second declension.
>> By the way, Thomas, haven't you found this bug in any of your editions?
>
> No, I use linenotes (and, to be honest, the edition project has been in
> hiatus for some time now, I need to pick it up again).
I found the bug in linenotes, but it seems not to be specific to
paragraphed linenotes but to paragraphed notes (as Wolfgang kindly noted).
Many thanks for your help,
Pablo
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* Re: bug with paragraph notes
2013-06-10 17:32 ` Pablo Rodríguez
@ 2013-06-10 18:09 ` Hans Hagen
2013-06-10 20:37 ` Hans Hagen
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From: Hans Hagen @ 2013-06-10 18:09 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ntg-context
On 6/10/2013 7:32 PM, Pablo Rodríguez wrote:
> On 09/06/13 21:01, Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:
>> On 06/09/2013 07:16 PM, Pablo Rodríguez wrote:
>>> Isn't it the plural for apparatus? (I mean the Latin one, although I
>>> might have forgotten the declensions as well.) Apparatuses sounds weird
>>> to me.
>>
>> It's apparatus (long u, fourth declension). apparati is a pseudo-learned
>> form, like "virii."
>
> Many thanks, Thomas, I'd never thought it was fourth declension. I
> assumed it was second declension.
>
>>> By the way, Thomas, haven't you found this bug in any of your editions?
>>
>> No, I use linenotes (and, to be honest, the edition project has been in
>> hiatus for some time now, I need to pick it up again).
>
> I found the bug in linenotes, but it seems not to be specific to
> paragraphed linenotes but to paragraphed notes (as Wolfgang kindly noted).
a next upload will have slightly improved paragraph notes but it will
always be a bit tricky (so one can best have tolerant settings)
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* Re: bug with paragraph notes
2013-06-10 18:09 ` Hans Hagen
@ 2013-06-10 20:37 ` Hans Hagen
2013-06-11 17:11 ` Pablo Rodríguez
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From: Hans Hagen @ 2013-06-10 20:37 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ntg-context
On 6/10/2013 8:09 PM, Hans Hagen wrote:
> On 6/10/2013 7:32 PM, Pablo Rodríguez wrote:
>> On 09/06/13 21:01, Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:
>>> On 06/09/2013 07:16 PM, Pablo Rodríguez wrote:
>>>> Isn't it the plural for apparatus? (I mean the Latin one, although I
>>>> might have forgotten the declensions as well.) Apparatuses sounds weird
>>>> to me.
>>>
>>> It's apparatus (long u, fourth declension). apparati is a pseudo-learned
>>> form, like "virii."
>>
>> Many thanks, Thomas, I'd never thought it was fourth declension. I
>> assumed it was second declension.
>>
>>>> By the way, Thomas, haven't you found this bug in any of your editions?
>>>
>>> No, I use linenotes (and, to be honest, the edition project has been in
>>> hiatus for some time now, I need to pick it up again).
>>
>> I found the bug in linenotes, but it seems not to be specific to
>> paragraphed linenotes but to paragraphed notes (as Wolfgang kindly
>> noted).
>
> a next upload will have slightly improved paragraph notes but it will
> always be a bit tricky (so one can best have tolerant settings)
best wikify this:
\setupbodyfont
[pagella]
\setupnote
[footnote]
[paragraph=yes]
\setupnotation
[footnote]
[alternative=serried,
width=broad,
distance=.5em,
display=no]
\starttext
\dorecurse{500}{text text text\footnote{note} }
\stoptext
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* Re: bug with paragraph notes
2013-06-10 20:37 ` Hans Hagen
@ 2013-06-11 17:11 ` Pablo Rodríguez
2013-06-11 18:54 ` Hans Hagen
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From: Pablo Rodríguez @ 2013-06-11 17:11 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On 10/06/13 22:37, Hans Hagen wrote:
> On 6/10/2013 8:09 PM, Hans Hagen wrote:
>> On 6/10/2013 7:32 PM, Pablo Rodríguez wrote:
>>>
>>> I found the bug in linenotes, but it seems not to be specific to
>>> paragraphed linenotes but to paragraphed notes (as Wolfgang kindly
>>> noted).
>>
>> a next upload will have slightly improved paragraph notes but it will
>> always be a bit tricky (so one can best have tolerant settings)
Many thanks, Hans, for your fast fix in the beta from yesterday.
> best wikify this:
Sorry, but I don't get it.
The only difference I see is the width=broad setting (sorry if I miss
the point).
Is this the key to avoid issues? (Sorry, but my examples seem to have no
problem now.)
Many thanks for your help,
Pablo
> \setupbodyfont
> [pagella]
>
> \setupnote
> [footnote]
> [paragraph=yes]
>
> \setupnotation
> [footnote]
> [alternative=serried,
> width=broad,
> distance=.5em,
> display=no]
>
> \starttext
> \dorecurse{500}{text text text\footnote{note} }
> \stoptext
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* Re: bug with paragraph notes
2013-06-11 17:11 ` Pablo Rodríguez
@ 2013-06-11 18:54 ` Hans Hagen
2013-06-11 19:55 ` Pablo Rodríguez
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From: Hans Hagen @ 2013-06-11 18:54 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ntg-context
On 6/11/2013 7:11 PM, Pablo Rodríguez wrote:
> On 10/06/13 22:37, Hans Hagen wrote:
>> On 6/10/2013 8:09 PM, Hans Hagen wrote:
>>> On 6/10/2013 7:32 PM, Pablo Rodríguez wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I found the bug in linenotes, but it seems not to be specific to
>>>> paragraphed linenotes but to paragraphed notes (as Wolfgang kindly
>>>> noted).
>>>
>>> a next upload will have slightly improved paragraph notes but it will
>>> always be a bit tricky (so one can best have tolerant settings)
>
> Many thanks, Hans, for your fast fix in the beta from yesterday.
>
>> best wikify this:
>
> Sorry, but I don't get it.
>
> The only difference I see is the width=broad setting (sorry if I miss
> the point).
well, others could benefit ...
> Is this the key to avoid issues? (Sorry, but my examples seem to have no
> problem now.)
no, that just helps a bit (sometimes)
i just changed the implementation abit
> Many thanks for your help,
>
>
> Pablo
>
>
>> \setupbodyfont
>> [pagella]
>>
>> \setupnote
>> [footnote]
>> [paragraph=yes]
>>
>> \setupnotation
>> [footnote]
>> [alternative=serried,
>> width=broad,
>> distance=.5em,
>> display=no]
>>
>> \starttext
>> \dorecurse{500}{text text text\footnote{note} }
>> \stoptext
>
>
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* Re: bug with paragraph notes
2013-06-11 18:54 ` Hans Hagen
@ 2013-06-11 19:55 ` Pablo Rodríguez
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From: Pablo Rodríguez @ 2013-06-11 19:55 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On 11/06/13 20:54, Hans Hagen wrote:
> On 6/11/2013 7:11 PM, Pablo Rodríguez wrote:
>>
>> The only difference I see is the width=broad setting (sorry if I miss
>> the point).
>
> well, others could benefit ...
Done (http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Footnotes#Footnotes_in_pagraph_form).
Pablo
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