bug with paragraph notes

bug with paragraph notes

[Pablo Rodríguez]

Hi Hans,

as I posted to the list in the past and it has been confirmed by
Wolfgang Schuster, there is a bug that prevents the proper separation of
paragraph notes from text body.

Here you have a sample:

    \setupbodyfont[pagella]
    \setupnote[footnote][paragraph=yes]
    \setupnotation[footnote][alternative=serried,display=no]

    \starttext
    \dorecurse{500}{text text text\footnote{note} }
    \stoptext

Would it be possible that this bug could be fixed? (This is specially
important for critical apparati.)

Many thanks for your help,


Pablo
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Re: bug with paragraph notes

[Thomas A. Schmitz]

On 06/09/2013 01:01 PM, Pablo Rodríguez wrote:
> Would it be possible that this bug could be fixed? (This is specially
> important for critical apparati.)

"apparati," eh?

Thomas
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Re: bug with paragraph notes

[Pablo Rodríguez]

On 09/06/13 18:55, Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:
> On 06/09/2013 01:01 PM, Pablo Rodríguez wrote:
>> Would it be possible that this bug could be fixed? (This is specially
>> important for critical apparati.)
> 
> "apparati," eh?

Isn't it the plural for apparatus? (I mean the Latin one, although I
might have forgotten the declensions as well.) Apparatuses sounds weird
to me.

If I'm not wrong, There is a similar rule in German (this might be the
cause of my mistake).


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Re: bug with paragraph notes

[Pablo Rodríguez]

On 09/06/13 18:55, Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:
> On 06/09/2013 01:01 PM, Pablo Rodríguez wrote:
>> Would it be possible that this bug could be fixed? (This is specially
>> important for critical apparati.)
> 
> "apparati," eh?

By the way, Thomas, haven't you found this bug in any of your editions?

Many thanks,


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Re: bug with paragraph notes

[Thomas A. Schmitz]

On 06/09/2013 07:16 PM, Pablo Rodríguez wrote:
> Isn't it the plural for apparatus? (I mean the Latin one, although I
> might have forgotten the declensions as well.) Apparatuses sounds weird
> to me.

It's apparatus (long u, fourth declension). apparati is a pseudo-learned 
form, like "virii."

> By the way, Thomas, haven't you found this bug in any of your editions?

No, I use linenotes (and, to be honest, the edition project has been in 
hiatus for some time now, I need to pick it up again).

Thomas
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Re: bug with paragraph notes

[Pablo Rodríguez]

On 09/06/13 21:01, Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:
> On 06/09/2013 07:16 PM, Pablo Rodríguez wrote:
>> Isn't it the plural for apparatus? (I mean the Latin one, although I
>> might have forgotten the declensions as well.) Apparatuses sounds weird
>> to me.
> 
> It's apparatus (long u, fourth declension). apparati is a pseudo-learned 
> form, like "virii."

Many thanks, Thomas, I'd never thought it was fourth declension. I
assumed it was second declension.

>> By the way, Thomas, haven't you found this bug in any of your editions?
> 
> No, I use linenotes (and, to be honest, the edition project has been in 
> hiatus for some time now, I need to pick it up again).

I found the bug in linenotes, but it seems not to be specific to
paragraphed linenotes but to paragraphed notes (as Wolfgang kindly noted).

Many thanks for your help,


Pablo
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Re: bug with paragraph notes

[Hans Hagen]

On 6/10/2013 7:32 PM, Pablo Rodríguez wrote:
> On 09/06/13 21:01, Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:
>> On 06/09/2013 07:16 PM, Pablo Rodríguez wrote:
>>> Isn't it the plural for apparatus? (I mean the Latin one, although I
>>> might have forgotten the declensions as well.) Apparatuses sounds weird
>>> to me.
>>
>> It's apparatus (long u, fourth declension). apparati is a pseudo-learned
>> form, like "virii."
>
> Many thanks, Thomas, I'd never thought it was fourth declension. I
> assumed it was second declension.
>
>>> By the way, Thomas, haven't you found this bug in any of your editions?
>>
>> No, I use linenotes (and, to be honest, the edition project has been in
>> hiatus for some time now, I need to pick it up again).
>
> I found the bug in linenotes, but it seems not to be specific to
> paragraphed linenotes but to paragraphed notes (as Wolfgang kindly noted).

a next upload will have slightly improved paragraph notes but it will 
always be a bit tricky (so one can best have tolerant settings)

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Re: bug with paragraph notes

[Hans Hagen]

On 6/10/2013 8:09 PM, Hans Hagen wrote:
> On 6/10/2013 7:32 PM, Pablo Rodríguez wrote:
>> On 09/06/13 21:01, Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:
>>> On 06/09/2013 07:16 PM, Pablo Rodríguez wrote:
>>>> Isn't it the plural for apparatus? (I mean the Latin one, although I
>>>> might have forgotten the declensions as well.) Apparatuses sounds weird
>>>> to me.
>>>
>>> It's apparatus (long u, fourth declension). apparati is a pseudo-learned
>>> form, like "virii."
>>
>> Many thanks, Thomas, I'd never thought it was fourth declension. I
>> assumed it was second declension.
>>
>>>> By the way, Thomas, haven't you found this bug in any of your editions?
>>>
>>> No, I use linenotes (and, to be honest, the edition project has been in
>>> hiatus for some time now, I need to pick it up again).
>>
>> I found the bug in linenotes, but it seems not to be specific to
>> paragraphed linenotes but to paragraphed notes (as Wolfgang kindly
>> noted).
>
> a next upload will have slightly improved paragraph notes but it will
> always be a bit tricky (so one can best have tolerant settings)

best wikify this:

\setupbodyfont
   [pagella]

\setupnote
   [footnote]
   [paragraph=yes]

\setupnotation
   [footnote]
   [alternative=serried,
    width=broad,
    distance=.5em,
    display=no]

\starttext
     \dorecurse{500}{text text text\footnote{note} }
\stoptext


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Re: bug with paragraph notes

[Pablo Rodríguez]

On 10/06/13 22:37, Hans Hagen wrote:
> On 6/10/2013 8:09 PM, Hans Hagen wrote:
>> On 6/10/2013 7:32 PM, Pablo Rodríguez wrote:
>>>
>>> I found the bug in linenotes, but it seems not to be specific to
>>> paragraphed linenotes but to paragraphed notes (as Wolfgang kindly
>>> noted).
>>
>> a next upload will have slightly improved paragraph notes but it will
>> always be a bit tricky (so one can best have tolerant settings)

Many thanks, Hans, for your fast fix in the beta from yesterday.

> best wikify this:

Sorry, but I don't get it.

The only difference I see is the width=broad setting (sorry if I miss
the point).

Is this the key to avoid issues? (Sorry, but my examples seem to have no
problem now.)

Many thanks for your help,


Pablo


> \setupbodyfont
>    [pagella]
> 
> \setupnote
>    [footnote]
>    [paragraph=yes]
> 
> \setupnotation
>    [footnote]
>    [alternative=serried,
>     width=broad,
>     distance=.5em,
>     display=no]
> 
> \starttext
>      \dorecurse{500}{text text text\footnote{note} }
> \stoptext


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Re: bug with paragraph notes

[Hans Hagen]

On 6/11/2013 7:11 PM, Pablo Rodríguez wrote:
> On 10/06/13 22:37, Hans Hagen wrote:
>> On 6/10/2013 8:09 PM, Hans Hagen wrote:
>>> On 6/10/2013 7:32 PM, Pablo Rodríguez wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I found the bug in linenotes, but it seems not to be specific to
>>>> paragraphed linenotes but to paragraphed notes (as Wolfgang kindly
>>>> noted).
>>>
>>> a next upload will have slightly improved paragraph notes but it will
>>> always be a bit tricky (so one can best have tolerant settings)
>
> Many thanks, Hans, for your fast fix in the beta from yesterday.
>
>> best wikify this:
>
> Sorry, but I don't get it.
>
> The only difference I see is the width=broad setting (sorry if I miss
> the point).

well, others could benefit ...


> Is this the key to avoid issues? (Sorry, but my examples seem to have no
> problem now.)

no, that just helps a bit (sometimes)

i just changed the implementation abit

> Many thanks for your help,
>
>
> Pablo
>
>
>> \setupbodyfont
>>     [pagella]
>>
>> \setupnote
>>     [footnote]
>>     [paragraph=yes]
>>
>> \setupnotation
>>     [footnote]
>>     [alternative=serried,
>>      width=broad,
>>      distance=.5em,
>>      display=no]
>>
>> \starttext
>>       \dorecurse{500}{text text text\footnote{note} }
>> \stoptext
>
>


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Re: bug with paragraph notes

[Pablo Rodríguez]

On 11/06/13 20:54, Hans Hagen wrote:
> On 6/11/2013 7:11 PM, Pablo Rodríguez wrote:
>>
>> The only difference I see is the width=broad setting (sorry if I miss
>> the point).
> 
> well, others could benefit ...

Done (http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Footnotes#Footnotes_in_pagraph_form).


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