From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/83108 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Hans Hagen Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: two questions on paragraphed linenotes Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2013 18:51:16 +0200 Message-ID: <51C33304.8010101@wxs.nl> References: <51C20A69.2050105@web.de> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; Format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1371747093 29017 80.91.229.3 (20 Jun 2013 16:51:33 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2013 16:51:33 +0000 (UTC) To: ntg-context@ntg.nl Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Thu Jun 20 18:51:35 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([195.12.62.10]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Upi59-0005Ya-1c for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Thu, 20 Jun 2013 18:51:35 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A28010212; Thu, 20 Jun 2013 18:51:34 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at balder.ntg.nl Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (balder.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id yUc1cpBe4B+E; Thu, 20 Jun 2013 18:51:32 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7485C101F0; Thu, 20 Jun 2013 18:51:32 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C9ED101F0 for ; Thu, 20 Jun 2013 18:51:31 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at balder.ntg.nl Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (balder.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id tqN8aGvFRNob for ; Thu, 20 Jun 2013 18:51:30 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from filter1-ams.mf.surf.net (filter1-ams.mf.surf.net [192.87.102.69]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52DCB101E0 for ; Thu, 20 Jun 2013 18:51:20 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from smtp.ziggozakelijk.nl (D57D1DA2.static.ziggozakelijk.nl [213.125.29.162]) by filter1-ams.mf.surf.net (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-9.4) with ESMTP id r5KGpHbv032561 for ; Thu, 20 Jun 2013 18:51:19 +0200 X-Default-Received-SPF: pass (skip=loggedin (res=PASS)) x-ip-name=10.100.1.103; Original-Received: from [10.100.1.103] (unverified [10.100.1.103]) by pragma-net.nl (SurgeMail 6.3c2) with ESMTP id 8427-1713362 for ; Thu, 20 Jun 2013 18:51:17 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.2; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130509 Thunderbird/17.0.6 In-Reply-To: <51C20A69.2050105@web.de> X-Authenticated-User: hagen@controller-9 X-Bayes-Prob: 0.0001 (Score 0, tokens from: @@RPTN) X-CanIt-Geo: ip=213.125.29.162; country=NL; region=15; city=Zwolle; latitude=52.5058; longitude=6.0858; http://maps.google.com/maps?q=52.5058,6.0858&z=6 X-CanItPRO-Stream: uu:ntg-context@ntg.nl (inherits from uu:default, base:default) X-Canit-Stats-ID: 0NJOEPhpm - c3ac6094e51d - 20130620 (trained as not-spam) X-Scanned-By: CanIt (www . roaringpenguin . com) on 192.87.102.69 X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:83108 Archived-At: On 6/19/2013 9:45 PM, Pablo Rodr=EDguez wrote: > Dear Hans, > > I'd like to introduce a friend into composing critical editions using > ConTeXt. I have made some tests myself, and I'd like to know a couple > of issues about paragraphed linenotes before start explaining. > > The first issue is about note split. When I started using ConTeXt, I > realized that footnotes might be placed in the next page (unless > split=3Dverystrict is set). Fearing the same results in linenotes, I set > this, but this lead to wrong separation between body and notes (at > least on my examples). My question is: does the default split value > for paragraphed linenotes keep all notes in the same page? > > The second question is on the space before linenotes that separates > from text body. With your fix from last week, things have improved a > lot. You told me is tricky. If you allow me a (naive) question: > wouldn't it be possible that ConTeXt would check whether body lines > respect the before distance of the first paragraphed linenotes and move > as many lines that don't respect this distance to the next page? > > There are another issues. I'd love to use ConTeXt for critical > editions. But I need to know both issues first. linenotes are just notes so no fundamental difference apart from tricky = referencing paragraph nodes are somewhat complex because we need to fake vertical = height while adding horizontal content the possibilities and limitations are mostly related to limitations in = tex itself of course i'll do my best to bypass/correct problems when possible using = lua magic Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl ----------------------------------------------------------------- ___________________________________________________________________________= ________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to t= he Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-cont= ext webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________= ________