From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/53599 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Bryant Eastham" Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Page Numbering Hell Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 00:36:35 -0600 Message-ID: <51CAD0CE1504444DBE77CBBE51A0135D6CE2B0@slcmail.slc.mew.int> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0771356820==" X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1256107025 5832 80.91.229.12 (21 Oct 2009 06:37:05 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 06:37:05 +0000 (UTC) To: Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Wed Oct 21 08:36:55 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([195.12.62.10]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1N0UoY-0003Ak-Az for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Wed, 21 Oct 2009 08:36:54 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65803C9ABB; Tue, 20 Oct 2009 23:36:49 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at balder.ntg.nl Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (balder.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 9sKNDqKmQaqD; Tue, 20 Oct 2009 23:36:45 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5015CC9AAA; Tue, 20 Oct 2009 23:36:45 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1C4AC9AAA for ; Tue, 20 Oct 2009 23:36:43 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at balder.ntg.nl Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (balder.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id eHZNjqsx-qzc for ; Tue, 20 Oct 2009 23:36:40 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from mail.pewla.com (mail.pewla.com [63.78.121.166]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5541AC9A70 for ; Tue, 20 Oct 2009 23:36:38 +0200 (CEST) X-AuditID: 0afe9e14-00000e9000000688-08-4adeabec4732 Original-Received: from slcmail.slc.mew.int ([10.254.158.21]) by mail.pewla.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Wed, 21 Oct 2009 00:36:28 -0600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message X-MS-Has-Attach: yes X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Page Numbering Hell Thread-Index: AcpSGNWnMQTIBcBGRs+EPwSBwBN7vw== X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:53599 Archived-At: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============0771356820== Content-class: urn:content-classes:message Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01CA5218.D6EBB962"; type="multipart/alternative" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01CA5218.D6EBB962 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_002_01CA5218.D6EBB962" ------_=_NextPart_002_01CA5218.D6EBB962 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable All- =20 A few days ago when I first stumbled on ConTeXt I was very, very excited. I have some 500 pages of technical documentation that could benefit from this, particularly since I need Japanese font support. But it has to be real. =20 I'm sorry if this sounds caustic, but after 12 hours of failed attempts to even get a minimal document formatted I have some serious questions for the list: =20 1. Is Mark IV real? I am only somewhat joking here - after spending hours searching for reasonable documentation on even the most trivial options, I am left wondering whether this is something I want to use... 2. ConTeXt looks great. But what is current? Seriously, I like the look and the support (particularly Unicode). But going over documentation I cannot make heads or tails of what to do. Mark II? Mark IV? TeTeX? LuaTeX? If I really want to use this, what should I use? 3. Having answered #2, where in the world is a reference manual!!! I mean one that actually *documents the options*. 4. Having answered #3, are there any current examples that actually work? The snippets from the mailing are great, but they are just snippets. That doesn't help me. =20 Now, to resolve my immediate issue, and just because I will not be able to sleep well until I figure this out (yes, I am fixated on this). =20 I want this document structure: =20 Contents 1. Chapter 1-1 1.1 Section 1-2 2. Chapter 2 2-1 2.1 Section 2-2 =20 Table of contents on page "i". Even/odd, each chapter starts on right page. Page number (as in 2-2) in top margin. Mark IV, Lua document. =20 I have tried hundreds of different combinations. If it cannot do this, the I will (with sadness) move on. I'm sure that it would take someone who understands this about 5 minutes to write (if that). =20 -Bryant =20 =20 =20 =20 Panasonic Electric Works Laboratory of America - SLC Lab 4525 So. 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A few days ago when I first stumbled on ConTeXt I = was very, very excited. I have some 500 pages of technical documentation that = could benefit from this, particularly since I need Japanese font support. But = it has to be real.

 

I’m sorry if this sounds caustic, but after = 12 hours of failed attempts to even get a minimal document formatted I have some = serious questions for the list:

 

1.       Is Mark IV real? I am only somewhat joking here = – after spending hours searching for reasonable documentation on even the = most trivial options, I am left wondering whether this is something I want to = use…

2.       ConTeXt looks great. But what is current? = Seriously, I like the look and the support (particularly Unicode). But going over documentation I cannot make heads or tails of what to do. Mark II? Mark = IV? TeTeX? LuaTeX? If I really want to use this, what should I = use?

3.       Having answered #2, where in the world is a = reference manual!!! I mean one that actually *documents the = options*.

4.       Having answered #3, are there any current = examples that actually work? The snippets from the mailing are great, but they are = just snippets. That doesn’t help me.

 

Now, to resolve my immediate issue, and just = because I will not be able to sleep well until I figure this out (yes, I am fixated on = this).

 

I want this document structure:

 

Contents

1.       = Chapter       =             &= nbsp;           &n= bsp;   1-1

1.1 Section           =             &= nbsp;     1-2

2.   Chapter 2            =             &= nbsp;         2-1

    2.1 Section           =             &= nbsp;         2-2

 

Table of contents on page = “i”.

Even/odd, each chapter starts on right = page.

Page number (as in 2-2) in top = margin.

Mark IV, Lua document.

 

I have tried hundreds of different combinations. If = it cannot do this, the I will (with sadness) move on. I’m sure that = it would take someone who understands this about 5 minutes to write (if = that).

 

-Bryant

 

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4525 So. Wasatch Blvd., Suite 100, 84124
Salt Lake City, UT 84124

T 801.993.7124
F 801.993.7260
beastham@pewla.us.pewg.pansonic.com

Bryant Eastham
Chief Architect

3DPanasonic

 

***CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE***: This e-mail and = any attachments may contain information which is confidential, proprietary, = trade secret, privileged or otherwise protected by law. The information is the property of Panasonic Electric Works Laboratory of America, Inc., and is = solely intended for the named addressee (or a person responsible or delivering = it to the addressee). If you are not the intended recipient of this message, = you are not authorized to read, print, retain copy or disseminate this message = or any part of it. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the = sender and the Office of General Counsel at generalcounsel@us.pewg.panasonic.com= immediately by return e-mail and delete it from your = computer.

 

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