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From: "Bryant Eastham" <beastham@pewla.us.pewg.panasonic.com>
To: "Alan BRASLAU" <alan.braslau@cea.fr>, <ntg-context@ntg.nl>
Subject: Re: Page Numbering Hell
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 10:52:21 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <51CAD0CE1504444DBE77CBBE51A0135D6CE2DF@slcmail.slc.mew.int> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200910211800.46075.alan.braslau@cea.fr>

All:

Alan comments below on my "aggressive" post. I apologize if it was seen
that way. I am serious in my evaluation of ConTeXt, and my questions are
quite serious as well.

I cannot justify the effort in and cost of converting some 35 documents
(many hundreds of pages) into a new format without an evaluation of the
format and related tools.

So, to restate my questions (potentially less aggressively), and in view
of switching our entire technical documentation to ConTeXt:

1. Should I use mkii or mkiv? If mkii, then what should I plan on as
schedule for upgrading?
2. Should I use context or texexec? As I understand, this is the same as
asking whether to use pdftex or luatex. It may also be related to the
mkii/mkiv issue, but I am less sure of that.
3. What *reference* material exists? I do not need a user guide. Right
now it has been Google. However, the solutions most recently mentioned
on the mailing lists seem to dead-end. I am fine with an answer of "see
the source code" if that is really it.

And I would still love a short, working example based on previous
request.

-Bryant

-----Original Message-----
From: Alan BRASLAU [mailto:alan.braslau@cea.fr] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 10:01 AM
To: Bryant Eastham; ntg-context@ntg.nl
Subject: Re: [NTG-context] Page Numbering Hell

On Wednesday 21 October 2009 16:24:47 Bryant Eastham wrote:
> 
> However, I find it interesting that in your response there was not a
> single real answer to any of my direct questions, nor a working
example
> of what you admit should be a "simple matter".

I clearly wrote that I find the new structure code to be a bit
confusing, and invited "experts" to answer your specific questions
(also commented in my framework "example"):
> % missing setups to:
> % 1. frontmatter pagenumbering conversion=romannumerals
> % 2. bodymatter pagenumbering "chapter-page"
> % 3. reset pagenumber for each chapter
> % 4. add blank pages if necessary to start chapters on odd pages.
It should be simple, but I have not taken the time/not had the need
to look into this. Perhaps someone can easily fill this in
(that is if not put-off by the agressivity of the posting).

> However, I
> believe that my original statements, which boil down to "This thing
may
> be great, but it needs to be documented (or where is it documented?)",
> have been strengthened.

Look at http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Main_Page
the paragraph on Documentation, and,
in particular, the revision of the user manual.
I, too, feel the great need for the updated
manual. For this reason, I am trying to join
the effort to bring forward its revision
(to be done in my "spare time").
Writing good, complete documentation is hard!

Alan
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  reply	other threads:[~2009-10-21 16:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-10-21  6:36 Bryant Eastham
2009-10-21  7:13 ` Alan BRASLAU
2009-10-21  7:46   ` luigi scarso
2009-10-21 14:24   ` Bryant Eastham
2009-10-21 16:00     ` Alan BRASLAU
2009-10-21 16:52       ` Bryant Eastham [this message]
2009-10-21 17:42         ` Alan BRASLAU
2009-10-23  7:19         ` Taco Hoekwater
2009-10-23  7:38           ` luigi scarso
2009-10-23  7:45         ` Aditya Mahajan
2009-10-23 20:41           ` Aditya Mahajan
2009-10-26  6:42             ` Thomas Floeren
2009-10-23  7:57         ` luigi scarso
2009-10-24 11:48         ` Spam:*****, " Hans Hagen
2009-10-22  8:03     ` Boštjan Vesnicer
2009-10-25 14:57       ` Hans Hagen
2009-10-21 15:49 ` Aditya Mahajan
2009-10-23 16:34   ` Bryant Eastham
2009-10-21 20:57 ` Thomas A. Schmitz
2009-10-23  8:30   ` Bryant Eastham
2009-10-23  8:49     ` luigi scarso
2009-10-23  9:39     ` Alan BRASLAU
2009-10-24 11:57     ` Spam:*****, " Hans Hagen
2009-10-23 19:57 ` Page Numbering Hell (SOLVED) Bryant Eastham

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