Re: Page Numbering Hell

["Bryant Eastham" <beastham@pewla.us.pewg.panasonic.com>]

Aditya, Luigi, others-

Thank you for your responses. I appreciate the candid answers, and the
time you took to provide examples.

Regarding Aditya's example, I do not get any errors, running LuaTeX,
MKIV, beta-0.43.0-2009091520.

However, I also do not get romannumerals in the frontpart, and
pagenumbers do not reset to 1 at the beginning of each section.

The magic command appears to be "definestructureconversionset", which is
not documented that I can see on http://texshow.contextgarden.net/. A
search of the wiki results in a single match, which is not a complete
example. Google led me to many snippets and emails, mostly
non-functional. This was leading me down the same rabbit hole that I was
going into before.

Given other's responses, I think to stick with MKII for now. I will do
as some have suggested, and keep my eye on MKIV while it stops "moving".

In particular, thanks to Taco for his concise summary of the differences
between texexec and context (and quick fix of my reported bug). Yes, it
did answer my question.

-Bryant

-----Original Message-----
From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl [mailto:ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl] On
Behalf Of Aditya Mahajan
Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 9:49 AM
To: mailing list for ConTeXt users
Subject: Re: [NTG-context] Page Numbering Hell

On Wed, 21 Oct 2009, Bryant Eastham wrote:

> 1.       Is Mark IV real? I am only somewhat joking here - after
> spending hours searching for reasonable documentation on even the most
> trivial options, I am left wondering whether this is something I want
to
> use...

MKIV is still a moving target. For example, the change is the 
structure code (headings, pagenumbers, lists, etc) started only in
April. 
There are still some things that are not done yet. Documentation will
only 
make sense once the interface is stable. For structure code, the
interface 
is not fixed yet, so the only documentation is the examples in the
source 
file. Parts that are stable (fonts, typescripts) are documented in the
new 
manual (see wiki). The interface for most other things has not changed,
so 
the MKII interface works.

> 2.       ConTeXt looks great. But what is current? Seriously, I like
the
> look and the support (particularly Unicode). But going over
> documentation I cannot make heads or tails of what to do. Mark II?
Mark
> IV? TeTeX? LuaTeX? If I really want to use this, what should I use?

Use MKII. It is stable and well documented. Unless there is some feature

of MKIV that you definitely need. MKII had some support for unicode and 
oriental languages.

> 3.       Having answered #2, where in the world is a reference
manual!!!
> I mean one that actually *documents the options*.

See http://www.pragma-ade.com/overview.htm 
Most of MKII options are documented in ConTeXt the manual. Parts of MKIV
are documented in mk.pdf

> 4.       Having answered #3, are there any current examples that
> actually work? The snippets from the mailing are great, but they are
> just snippets. That doesn't help me.

The wiki: http://www.contextgarden.net

> Now, to resolve my immediate issue, and just because I will not be
able
> to sleep well until I figure this out (yes, I am fixated on this).

A partial solution (I don't know how to set the separator between
chapter 
number and page number)

Following Alan's email:

% missing setups to:
% 1. frontmatter pagenumbering conversion=romannumerals
\setupuserpagenumber[way=byblock]
\definestructureconversionset[frontpart:pagenumber][][romannumerals]
\definestructureconversionset[bodypart:pagenumber] [][numbers]
\setupuserpagenumber[numberconversionset=pagenumber]

% 2. bodymatter pagenumbering "chapter-page"
% 3. reset pagenumber for each chapter
% I don't know how to set the - between chapter and page number

\setupuserpagenumber
   [way=bychapter,
    prefix=yes,
    prefixset=chapter,
    prefixsegments=2:2,
  ]

% 4. add blank pages if necessary to start chapters on odd pages.
% 5. Page number in top margin
\setuppagenumbering[location={header,margin},alternative=doublesided]

\starttext

\startfrontmatter
\completecontent[criterium=all]
\stopfrontmatter

\startbodymatter
\dorecurse{4}
{\chapter{Chapter}
\dorecurse{8}
{\section{Section}
  \input knuth \endgraf}}
\stopbodymatter

\stoptext

Aditya
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