From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/53630 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Bryant Eastham" Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: Page Numbering Hell Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2009 10:34:10 -0600 Message-ID: <51CAD0CE1504444DBE77CBBE51A0135D6CE3CB@slcmail.slc.mew.int> References: <51CAD0CE1504444DBE77CBBE51A0135D6CE2B0@slcmail.slc.mew.int> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1256456667 4897 80.91.229.12 (25 Oct 2009 07:44:27 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2009 07:44:27 +0000 (UTC) To: "mailing list for ConTeXt users" Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Sun Oct 25 08:44:20 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([195.12.62.10]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1N1xm0-0001Fo-Iv for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Sun, 25 Oct 2009 08:44:20 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A904C9CC0; Sun, 25 Oct 2009 08:42:59 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at balder.ntg.nl Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (balder.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id AgP0wdWyV8+j; Sun, 25 Oct 2009 08:42:56 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 647F8C9B8C; Sun, 25 Oct 2009 08:42:27 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39AF0C9AAA for ; Sat, 24 Oct 2009 09:01:04 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at balder.ntg.nl Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (balder.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id xPREwbaWX2A0 for ; Sat, 24 Oct 2009 09:00:47 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from mail.pewla.com (mail.pewla.com [63.78.121.166]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69A7BC9AAF for ; Sat, 24 Oct 2009 08:59:57 +0200 (CEST) X-AuditID: 0afe9e14-00000f7000000688-9c-4ae1db060c69 Original-Received: from slcmail.slc.mew.int ([10.254.158.21]) by mail.pewla.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Fri, 23 Oct 2009 10:34:14 -0600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message In-Reply-To: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [NTG-context] Page Numbering Hell Thread-Index: AcpTtWpu3qmf/8noRDa5QgFTXy8NhAARlTfg X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:53630 Archived-At: Aditya, Luigi, others- Thank you for your responses. I appreciate the candid answers, and the time you took to provide examples. Regarding Aditya's example, I do not get any errors, running LuaTeX, MKIV, beta-0.43.0-2009091520. However, I also do not get romannumerals in the frontpart, and pagenumbers do not reset to 1 at the beginning of each section. The magic command appears to be "definestructureconversionset", which is not documented that I can see on http://texshow.contextgarden.net/. A search of the wiki results in a single match, which is not a complete example. Google led me to many snippets and emails, mostly non-functional. This was leading me down the same rabbit hole that I was going into before. Given other's responses, I think to stick with MKII for now. I will do as some have suggested, and keep my eye on MKIV while it stops "moving". In particular, thanks to Taco for his concise summary of the differences between texexec and context (and quick fix of my reported bug). Yes, it did answer my question. -Bryant -----Original Message----- From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl [mailto:ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl] On Behalf Of Aditya Mahajan Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 9:49 AM To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Subject: Re: [NTG-context] Page Numbering Hell On Wed, 21 Oct 2009, Bryant Eastham wrote: > 1. Is Mark IV real? I am only somewhat joking here - after > spending hours searching for reasonable documentation on even the most > trivial options, I am left wondering whether this is something I want to > use... MKIV is still a moving target. For example, the change is the structure code (headings, pagenumbers, lists, etc) started only in April. There are still some things that are not done yet. Documentation will only make sense once the interface is stable. For structure code, the interface is not fixed yet, so the only documentation is the examples in the source file. Parts that are stable (fonts, typescripts) are documented in the new manual (see wiki). The interface for most other things has not changed, so the MKII interface works. > 2. ConTeXt looks great. But what is current? Seriously, I like the > look and the support (particularly Unicode). But going over > documentation I cannot make heads or tails of what to do. Mark II? Mark > IV? TeTeX? LuaTeX? If I really want to use this, what should I use? Use MKII. It is stable and well documented. Unless there is some feature of MKIV that you definitely need. MKII had some support for unicode and oriental languages. > 3. Having answered #2, where in the world is a reference manual!!! > I mean one that actually *documents the options*. See http://www.pragma-ade.com/overview.htm Most of MKII options are documented in ConTeXt the manual. Parts of MKIV are documented in mk.pdf > 4. Having answered #3, are there any current examples that > actually work? The snippets from the mailing are great, but they are > just snippets. That doesn't help me. The wiki: http://www.contextgarden.net > Now, to resolve my immediate issue, and just because I will not be able > to sleep well until I figure this out (yes, I am fixated on this). A partial solution (I don't know how to set the separator between chapter number and page number) Following Alan's email: % missing setups to: % 1. frontmatter pagenumbering conversion=romannumerals \setupuserpagenumber[way=byblock] \definestructureconversionset[frontpart:pagenumber][][romannumerals] \definestructureconversionset[bodypart:pagenumber] [][numbers] \setupuserpagenumber[numberconversionset=pagenumber] % 2. bodymatter pagenumbering "chapter-page" % 3. reset pagenumber for each chapter % I don't know how to set the - between chapter and page number \setupuserpagenumber [way=bychapter, prefix=yes, prefixset=chapter, prefixsegments=2:2, ] % 4. add blank pages if necessary to start chapters on odd pages. % 5. Page number in top margin \setuppagenumbering[location={header,margin},alternative=doublesided] \starttext \startfrontmatter \completecontent[criterium=all] \stopfrontmatter \startbodymatter \dorecurse{4} {\chapter{Chapter} \dorecurse{8} {\section{Section} \input knuth \endgraf}} \stopbodymatter \stoptext Aditya ________________________________________________________________________ ___________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ________________________________________________________________________ ___________ ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________