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I have attached a heavily commented MKII example that implements the structure that I want. The notes identify several (IMHO) weak spots in documentation, especially some consistency issues.

In order to implement this (some said “simple”) format, I used:

· http://www.pragma-ade.com/general/manuals/cont-enp.pdf (the manual)

· http://www.opensubscriber.com/message/ntg-context@ntg.nl/9815615.html

· http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Biochemistry_textbook

· http://texshow.contextgarden.net

· http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Titles#Truly_empty_pagebreak_before_chapters

I’m fine with that. For those (most, I imagine) who don’t want to wade through the notes, here is a summary of the most (again, IMHO) issues:

· startsectionblockenvironment does not appear documented, and appears to be critical for this style

· setuppagenumbering documentation is hard to follow for options ‘by\em{section}’ and ‘\em{section}number’

o The manual uses inconsistent italics

o The texshow page doesn’t use italics where it should

· setupcombinedlist (through setuplist) has the same inconsistent use of italics.

· setuphead is not documented completely (no reference to special ‘page’ formats)

· definepagebreak not documented

Also, the solution for ‘truly empty pagebreak before chapters’ does not appear to work for the last chapter in the document.

I would be more than happy to contribute to the texshow documentation and wiki, assuming that I would be given an account… J

The list appears to be dead again, so I hope this makes it through.

Thanks,

-Bryant

From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl [mailto:ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl] On Behalf Of Bryant Eastham
Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 12:37 AM
To: ntg-context@ntg.nl
Subject: [NTG-context] Page Numbering Hell

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A few days ago when I first stumbled on ConTeXt I was very, very excited. I have some 500 pages of technical documentation that could benefit from this, particularly since I need Japanese font support. But it has to be real.

I’m sorry if this sounds caustic, but after 12 hours of failed attempts to even get a minimal document formatted I have some serious questions for the list:

1. Is Mark IV real? I am only somewhat joking here – after spending hours searching for reasonable documentation on even the most trivial options, I am left wondering whether this is something I want to use…

2. ConTeXt looks great. But what is current? Seriously, I like the look and the support (particularly Unicode). But going over documentation I cannot make heads or tails of what to do. Mark II? Mark IV? TeTeX? LuaTeX? If I really want to use this, what should I use?

3. Having answered #2, where in the world is a reference manual!!! I mean one that actually *documents the options*.

4. Having answered #3, are there any current examples that actually work? The snippets from the mailing are great, but they are just snippets. That doesn’t help me.

Now, to resolve my immediate issue, and just because I will not be able to sleep well until I figure this out (yes, I am fixated on this).

I want this document structure:

Contents

1. Chapter                                   1-1

1.1 Section                             1-2

2.   Chapter 2                                  2-1

    2.1 Section                                 2-2

Table of contents on page “i”.

Even/odd, each chapter starts on right page.

Page number (as in 2-2) in top margin.

Mark IV, Lua document.

I have tried hundreds of different combinations. If it cannot do this, the I will (with sadness) move on. I’m sure that it would take someone who understands this about 5 minutes to write (if that).

-Bryant

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