On 6/26/2013 6:24 PM, Hans Hagen wrote: ........................[snip]......................... If there is one thing I have learned in developing software since 1965 (not a typo), it is to never depend on /any /third-party application being present. If it is not part of the base system install, it probably won't be there. I've even met Unix systems without /make/. Requiring the user to use some flag or other seldom flies and results in many nastygrams and late-night phone calls. If you need it, include it. I pass on this group of scars on my butt for what it's worth and declare the topic closed. -- Bill Meahan Westland, Michigan "The nice thing about standards is there are so many of them." -- Henry Spencer