* Where to store typescripts ?
@ 2009-06-04 8:34 Nicolas Girard
2009-06-04 8:38 ` luigi scarso
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From: Nicolas Girard @ 2009-06-04 8:34 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Hi,
Where should typescript files be stored ?
Is it possible to store them in user space, eg in a subdirectory of
Luatex cache (when using luatex) ?
Thanks in advance!
Nicolas
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* Re: Where to store typescripts ?
2009-06-04 8:34 Where to store typescripts ? Nicolas Girard
@ 2009-06-04 8:38 ` luigi scarso
2009-06-04 9:05 ` Hans Hagen
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On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 10:34 AM, Nicolas Girard <nicolas.girard@nerim.net>wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Where should typescript files be stored ?
>
If you have minimals(-beta)
try
minimals/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/user
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* Re: Where to store typescripts ?
2009-06-04 8:38 ` luigi scarso
@ 2009-06-04 9:05 ` Hans Hagen
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From: Hans Hagen @ 2009-06-04 9:05 UTC (permalink / raw)
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luigi scarso wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 10:34 AM, Nicolas Girard <nicolas.girard@nerim.net>wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Where should typescript files be stored ?
>>
>
> If you have minimals(-beta)
> try
> minimals/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/user
personal ones?
minimals/tex/texmf-fonts/tex/context/user
minimals/tex/texmf-project/tex/context/user
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* Re: Where to store typescripts ?
2009-06-04 8:38 ` luigi scarso
2009-06-04 9:05 ` Hans Hagen
@ 2009-06-04 9:11 ` Nicolas Girard
2009-06-04 9:21 ` luigi scarso
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From: Nicolas Girard @ 2009-06-04 9:11 UTC (permalink / raw)
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2009/6/4 luigi scarso <luigi.scarso@gmail.com>:
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 10:34 AM, Nicolas Girard <nicolas.girard@nerim.net>
> wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Where should typescript files be stored ?
>
> If you have minimals(-beta)
> try
> minimals/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/user
>
Hi Luigi,
thanks for your answer.
I'm using the latest mkiv installed over texlive 2008.
It is a system directory ; is it the only one ?
Anyway I couldn't get my typescript file to work.
Here's what I did:
(assume TF is http://bitbucket.org/wolfs/typescripts/src/7050bb6918bb/type-exljbris.mkiv
)
1. put the contents of TF in a test document along with
\usetypescript[delicious]
The document compiled fine and the Delicious fonts were properly included.
2. copied TF in tex/context/user/ as adviced
3. ran mktexlsr, just in case
4. In the test document, removed the contents of TF and replaced it with
\usetypescriptfile[type-exljibris]
The compilation ran smoothly, I should say too smoothly, because I
couldn't find any font-related error message, neither in the output,
nor in the log file. And however, ConTeXt used lmodern fonts instead
of the Delicious fonts.
Cheers,
Nicolas
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* Re: Where to store typescripts ?
2009-06-04 9:11 ` Nicolas Girard
@ 2009-06-04 9:21 ` luigi scarso
2009-06-04 14:00 ` Nicolas Girard
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From: luigi scarso @ 2009-06-04 9:21 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 11:11 AM, Nicolas Girard <nicolas.girard@nerim.net>wrote:
> 2009/6/4 luigi scarso <luigi.scarso@gmail.com>:
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 10:34 AM, Nicolas Girard <
> nicolas.girard@nerim.net>
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> Where should typescript files be stored ?
> >
> > If you have minimals(-beta)
> > try
> > minimals/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/user
> >
>
> Hi Luigi,
> thanks for your answer.
> I'm using the latest mkiv installed over texlive 2008.
> It is a system directory ; is it the only one ?
>
> Anyway I couldn't get my typescript file to work.
> Here's what I did:
>
> (assume TF is
> http://bitbucket.org/wolfs/typescripts/src/7050bb6918bb/type-exljbris.mkiv
> )
>
> 1. put the contents of TF in a test document along with
> \usetypescript[delicious]
> The document compiled fine and the Delicious fonts were properly included.
>
> 2. copied TF in tex/context/user/ as adviced
> 3. ran mktexlsr, just in case
>
hmm
try context --generate
x Wolfgang
maybe is better to add some instructions on usage at the end ...
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* Re: Where to store typescripts ?
2009-06-04 9:21 ` luigi scarso
@ 2009-06-04 14:00 ` Nicolas Girard
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From: Nicolas Girard @ 2009-06-04 14:00 UTC (permalink / raw)
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2009/6/4 luigi scarso <luigi.scarso@gmail.com>:
> hmm
> try context --generate
>
Tried that, and it didn't work.
Nicolas
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* Re: Where to store typescripts ?
2009-06-04 14:00 ` Nicolas Girard
@ 2009-06-04 14:06 ` luigi scarso
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From: luigi scarso @ 2009-06-04 14:06 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 4:00 PM, Nicolas Girard <nicolas.girard@nerim.net>wrote:
> 2009/6/4 luigi scarso <luigi.scarso@gmail.com>:
> > hmm
> > try context --generate
> >
>
> Tried that, and it didn't work.
>
> Nicolas
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Did you put something like
\usetypefile[delicious]
or
\usetypefile[exljbris]<http://bitbucket.org/wolfs/typescripts/src/7050bb6918bb/type-exljbris.mkiv>
before \usetypescript ?
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* Re: Where to store typescripts ?
2009-06-04 14:00 ` Nicolas Girard
2009-06-04 14:06 ` luigi scarso
@ 2009-06-04 14:07 ` Wolfgang Schuster
2009-06-04 14:21 ` luigi scarso
2009-06-04 14:11 ` Peter Rolf
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From: Wolfgang Schuster @ 2009-06-04 14:07 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Am 04.06.2009 um 16:00 schrieb Nicolas Girard:
> 2009/6/4 luigi scarso <luigi.scarso@gmail.com>:
>> hmm
>> try context --generate
>
> Tried that, and it didn't work.
Dou you have also type-exljbris.tex?
Wolfgang
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* Re: Where to store typescripts ?
2009-06-04 14:00 ` Nicolas Girard
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@ 2009-06-04 14:11 ` Peter Rolf
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From: Peter Rolf @ 2009-06-04 14:11 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Nicolas Girard schrieb:
> 2009/6/4 luigi scarso <luigi.scarso@gmail.com>:
>
>> hmm
>> try context --generate
>>
>>
>
> Tried that, and it didn't work.
>
you can try
mtxrun --script fonts --reload
Best wishes, Peter
> Nicolas
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* Re: Where to store typescripts ?
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From: luigi scarso @ 2009-06-04 14:21 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 4:07 PM, Wolfgang Schuster <
schuster.wolfgang@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
> Am 04.06.2009 um 16:00 schrieb Nicolas Girard:
>
> 2009/6/4 luigi scarso <luigi.scarso@gmail.com>:
>>
>>> hmm
>>> try context --generate
>>>
>>
>> Tried that, and it didn't work.
>>
>
> Dou you have also type-exljbris.tex?
>
why don't put an example of use at the end of the typescript ?
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* Re: Where to store typescripts ?
2009-06-04 14:00 ` Nicolas Girard
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From: Nicolas Girard @ 2009-06-04 14:44 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Wow. Now, I'm lost -- and i still can't make it work anyway.
Could you explain right from the start ?
Let's assume (as it is the case on my system) that the Delicious fonts
are properly installed *and* the font database knows about it.
Let's assume context = LuaTeX mkiv
Now,
1. if I want to create a typescript file supporting some XX fonts, do
I need to name the file type-XX.some_extension, or is it only a
convention and the file could also be named XX.some_extension or even
whatever.some_extension ?
2. what should be the extension for mkiv ? .mkiv ? .tex ? Are both allowed ?
3. Assuming I properly install such
http://bitbucket.org/wolfs/typescripts/src/7050bb6918bb/type-exljbris.mkiv
file, should I load it using
\usetypescriptfile[type-exljbris]
or
\usetypescriptfile[exljbris]
?
4. What is the relationship between type-exljbris.mkiv and
type-exljbris.tex ? Is type-exljbris.tex necessary when using mkiv ?
5. In order to install one or several typescript files, I should first
copy them, either in
tex/texmf-fonts/tex/context/user
or in
tex/texmf-project/tex/context/user
right ?
But then,
what is it necessary to run ?
- context --generate ?
- mtxrun --script fonts --reload ?
- both ?
6. How comes ConTeXt can silently substitute my fonts, without even
outputting any error message ?
How to change this behaviour ?
How to disable font substitution ?
Hopefully you forgive me for asking so many questions. Beware, answers
will be recorded and published in the wiki ;-)
Cheers,
Nicolas
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* Re: Where to store typescripts ?
2009-06-04 14:44 ` Nicolas Girard
@ 2009-06-04 14:54 ` luigi scarso
2009-06-04 15:28 ` Nicolas Girard
2009-06-08 22:35 ` Mojca Miklavec
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From: luigi scarso @ 2009-06-04 14:54 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 4:44 PM, Nicolas Girard <nicolas.girard@nerim.net>wrote:
> Wow. Now, I'm lost -- and i still can't make it work anyway.
> Could you explain right from the start ?
>
> Let's assume (as it is the case on my system) that the Delicious fonts
> are properly installed *and* the font database knows about it.
> Let's assume context = LuaTeX mkiv
>
> Now,
>
> 1. if I want to create a typescript file supporting some XX fonts, do
> I need to name the file type-XX.some_extension, or is it only a
> convention and the file could also be named XX.some_extension or even
> whatever.some_extension ?
>
> 2. what should be the extension for mkiv ? .mkiv ? .tex ? Are both allowed
> ?
>
> 3. Assuming I properly install such
> http://bitbucket.org/wolfs/typescripts/src/7050bb6918bb/type-exljbris.mkiv
> file, should I load it using
> \usetypescriptfile[type-exljbris]
> or
> \usetypescriptfile[exljbris]
> ?
>
> 4. What is the relationship between type-exljbris.mkiv and
> type-exljbris.tex ? Is type-exljbris.tex necessary when using mkiv ?
> 5. In order to install one or several typescript files, I should first
> copy them, either in
> tex/texmf-fonts/tex/context/user
> or in
> tex/texmf-project/tex/context/user
> right ?
> But then,
> what is it necessary to run ?
> - context --generate ?
> - mtxrun --script fonts --reload ?
> - both ?
>
> 6. How comes ConTeXt can silently substitute my fonts, without even
> outputting any error message ?
> How to change this behaviour ?
> How to disable font substitution ?
>
>
> Hopefully you forgive me for asking so many questions. Beware, answers
> will be recorded and published in the wiki ;-)
> Cheers,
> Nicolas
>
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Here my example
I have
minimals/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/user/type-catalog.tex
and eventually
context --generate
%%type-catalog.tex %%%%%%%%%
\starttypescript [serif] [catalog]
\setups[font:fallback:serif]
\definefontsynonym [Serif] [CharisSIL-Regular]
\definefontsynonym [SerifItalic] [CharisSIL-Italic]
\definefontsynonym [SerifBold] [CharisSIL-Bold]
\definefontsynonym [SerifBoldItalic] [CharisSIL-BoldItalic]
\stoptypescript
\starttypescript [serif] [catalog]
\definefontsynonym [CharisSIL-Regular]
[file:CharisSILR][features=default]
\definefontsynonym [CharisSIL-Italic]
[file:CharisSILI][features=default]
\definefontsynonym [CharisSIL-Bold]
[file:CharisSILB][features=default]
\definefontsynonym [CharisSIL-BoldItalic]
[file:CharisSILBI][features=default]
\stoptypescript
\starttypescript [sans] [catalog]
\setups[font:fallback:sans]
\definefontsynonym [Sans] [Delicious-Regular]
\definefontsynonym [SansItalic] [Delicious-Italic]
\definefontsynonym [SansBold] [Delicious-Bold]
\definefontsynonym [SansBoldItalic] [Delicious-BoldItalic]
\definefontsynonym [SansCaps] [Delicious-Caps]
\stoptypescript
\starttypescript [sans] [catalog]
\definefontsynonym [Delicious-Regular] [name:Delicious-Roman]
[features=default]
\definefontsynonym [Delicious-Italic] [name:Delicious-Italic]
[features=default]
\definefontsynonym [Delicious-Bold] [name:Delicious-Bold]
[features=default]
\definefontsynonym [Delicious-BoldItalic] [name:Delicious-BoldItalic]
[features=default]
\definefontsynonym [Delicious-Caps] [name:Delicious-SmallCaps]
[features=default]
\stoptypescript
\starttypescript [catalog]
\definetypeface [catalog] [rm] [serif] [catalog] [default]
\definetypeface [catalog] [ss] [sans] [catalog] [default]
\stoptypescript
%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%
%%%test.tex%%%%%%%%%%%
\usetypefile[catalog]
\usetypescript[catalog]
\setupbodyfont[catalog,8pt,serif]
\starttext
\rm
\input tufte
\ss
\input tufte
\stoptext
%%%%%%%%%%%%%%
$> context test.tex
$>pdffonts test.pdf
name type emb sub uni object ID
------------------------------------ ----------------- --- --- --- ---------
HMORXY+CharisSIL CID TrueType yes yes yes 4 0
EVRTHR+Delicious-Roman CID Type 0C yes yes yes 5 0
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* Re: Where to store typescripts ?
2009-06-04 14:54 ` luigi scarso
@ 2009-06-04 15:28 ` Nicolas Girard
2009-06-04 15:33 ` luigi scarso
2009-06-04 15:55 ` Wolfgang Schuster
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From: Nicolas Girard @ 2009-06-04 15:28 UTC (permalink / raw)
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2009/6/4 luigi scarso <luigi.scarso@gmail.com>:
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 4:44 PM, Nicolas Girard <nicolas.girard@nerim.net>
> wrote:
>>
>> Wow. Now, I'm lost -- and i still can't make it work anyway.
>> Could you explain right from the start ?
>>
>> Let's assume (as it is the case on my system) that the Delicious fonts
>> are properly installed *and* the font database knows about it.
>> Let's assume context = LuaTeX mkiv
>>
>> Now,
>>
>> 1. if I want to create a typescript file supporting some XX fonts, do
>> I need to name the file type-XX.some_extension, or is it only a
>> convention and the file could also be named XX.some_extension or even
>> whatever.some_extension ?
>>
>> 2. what should be the extension for mkiv ? .mkiv ? .tex ? Are both allowed
>> ?
>>
>> 3. Assuming I properly install such
>> http://bitbucket.org/wolfs/typescripts/src/7050bb6918bb/type-exljbris.mkiv
>> file, should I load it using
>> \usetypescriptfile[type-exljbris]
>> or
>> \usetypescriptfile[exljbris]
>> ?
>>
>> 4. What is the relationship between type-exljbris.mkiv and
>> type-exljbris.tex ? Is type-exljbris.tex necessary when using mkiv ?
>> 5. In order to install one or several typescript files, I should first
>> copy them, either in
>> tex/texmf-fonts/tex/context/user
>> or in
>> tex/texmf-project/tex/context/user
>> right ?
>> But then,
>> what is it necessary to run ?
>> - context --generate ?
>> - mtxrun --script fonts --reload ?
>> - both ?
>>
>> 6. How comes ConTeXt can silently substitute my fonts, without even
>> outputting any error message ?
>> How to change this behaviour ?
>> How to disable font substitution ?
>>
>>
>> Hopefully you forgive me for asking so many questions. Beware, answers
>> will be recorded and published in the wiki ;-)
>> Cheers,
>> Nicolas
>>
>> ___________________________________________________________________________________
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>>
>> ___________________________________________________________________________________
>
> Here my example
> I have
> minimals/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/user/type-catalog.tex
>
> and eventually
> context --generate
>
> %%type-catalog.tex %%%%%%%%%
> \starttypescript [serif] [catalog]
> \setups[font:fallback:serif]
> \definefontsynonym [Serif] [CharisSIL-Regular]
> \definefontsynonym [SerifItalic] [CharisSIL-Italic]
> \definefontsynonym [SerifBold] [CharisSIL-Bold]
> \definefontsynonym [SerifBoldItalic] [CharisSIL-BoldItalic]
> \stoptypescript
>
> \starttypescript [serif] [catalog]
> \definefontsynonym [CharisSIL-Regular]
> [file:CharisSILR][features=default]
> \definefontsynonym [CharisSIL-Italic]
> [file:CharisSILI][features=default]
> \definefontsynonym [CharisSIL-Bold]
> [file:CharisSILB][features=default]
> \definefontsynonym [CharisSIL-BoldItalic]
> [file:CharisSILBI][features=default]
> \stoptypescript
>
> \starttypescript [sans] [catalog]
> \setups[font:fallback:sans]
> \definefontsynonym [Sans] [Delicious-Regular]
> \definefontsynonym [SansItalic] [Delicious-Italic]
> \definefontsynonym [SansBold] [Delicious-Bold]
> \definefontsynonym [SansBoldItalic] [Delicious-BoldItalic]
> \definefontsynonym [SansCaps] [Delicious-Caps]
> \stoptypescript
>
> \starttypescript [sans] [catalog]
> \definefontsynonym [Delicious-Regular] [name:Delicious-Roman]
> [features=default]
> \definefontsynonym [Delicious-Italic] [name:Delicious-Italic]
> [features=default]
> \definefontsynonym [Delicious-Bold] [name:Delicious-Bold]
> [features=default]
> \definefontsynonym [Delicious-BoldItalic] [name:Delicious-BoldItalic]
> [features=default]
> \definefontsynonym [Delicious-Caps] [name:Delicious-SmallCaps]
> [features=default]
> \stoptypescript
>
> \starttypescript [catalog]
> \definetypeface [catalog] [rm] [serif] [catalog] [default]
> \definetypeface [catalog] [ss] [sans] [catalog] [default]
> \stoptypescript
> %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%
>
>
> %%%test.tex%%%%%%%%%%%
> \usetypefile[catalog]
> \usetypescript[catalog]
> \setupbodyfont[catalog,8pt,serif]
> \starttext
> \rm
> \input tufte
> \ss
> \input tufte
> \stoptext
> %%%%%%%%%%%%%%
>
> $> context test.tex
> $>pdffonts test.pdf
>
> name type emb sub uni object ID
> ------------------------------------ ----------------- --- --- --- ---------
> HMORXY+CharisSIL CID TrueType yes yes yes 4 0
> EVRTHR+Delicious-Roman CID Type 0C yes yes yes 5 0
>
>
> --
> luigi
>
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>
>
Luigi,
thanks very much for your efforts.
Apparently,
\usetypescriptfile[catalog]
\usetypescript[catalog]
doesn't work, whereas
\usetypefile[catalog]
\usetypescript[catalog]
does.
Is there any reason for this ?
Cheers,
nicolas
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* Re: Where to store typescripts ?
2009-06-04 15:28 ` Nicolas Girard
@ 2009-06-04 15:33 ` luigi scarso
2009-06-04 17:18 ` Nicolas Girard
2009-06-04 15:55 ` Wolfgang Schuster
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From: luigi scarso @ 2009-06-04 15:33 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: mailing list for ConTeXt users
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On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 5:28 PM, Nicolas Girard <nicolas.girard@nerim.net>wrote:
> 2009/6/4 luigi scarso <luigi.scarso@gmail.com>:
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 4:44 PM, Nicolas Girard <nicolas.girard@nerim.net
> >
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> Wow. Now, I'm lost -- and i still can't make it work anyway.
> >> Could you explain right from the start ?
> >>
> >> Let's assume (as it is the case on my system) that the Delicious fonts
> >> are properly installed *and* the font database knows about it.
> >> Let's assume context = LuaTeX mkiv
> >>
> >> Now,
> >>
> >> 1. if I want to create a typescript file supporting some XX fonts, do
> >> I need to name the file type-XX.some_extension, or is it only a
> >> convention and the file could also be named XX.some_extension or even
> >> whatever.some_extension ?
> >>
> >> 2. what should be the extension for mkiv ? .mkiv ? .tex ? Are both
> allowed
> >> ?
> >>
> >> 3. Assuming I properly install such
> >>
> http://bitbucket.org/wolfs/typescripts/src/7050bb6918bb/type-exljbris.mkiv
> >> file, should I load it using
> >> \usetypescriptfile[type-exljbris]
> >> or
> >> \usetypescriptfile[exljbris]
> >> ?
> >>
> >> 4. What is the relationship between type-exljbris.mkiv and
> >> type-exljbris.tex ? Is type-exljbris.tex necessary when using mkiv ?
> >> 5. In order to install one or several typescript files, I should first
> >> copy them, either in
> >> tex/texmf-fonts/tex/context/user
> >> or in
> >> tex/texmf-project/tex/context/user
> >> right ?
> >> But then,
> >> what is it necessary to run ?
> >> - context --generate ?
> >> - mtxrun --script fonts --reload ?
> >> - both ?
> >>
> >> 6. How comes ConTeXt can silently substitute my fonts, without even
> >> outputting any error message ?
> >> How to change this behaviour ?
> >> How to disable font substitution ?
> >>
> >>
> >> Hopefully you forgive me for asking so many questions. Beware, answers
> >> will be recorded and published in the wiki ;-)
> >> Cheers,
> >> Nicolas
> >>
> >>
> ___________________________________________________________________________________
> >> If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry
> to
> >> the Wiki!
> >>
> >> maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl /
> >> http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
> >> webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net
> >> archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/
> >> wiki : http://contextgarden.net
> >>
> >>
> ___________________________________________________________________________________
> >
> > Here my example
> > I have
> > minimals/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/user/type-catalog.tex
> >
> > and eventually
> > context --generate
> >
> > %%type-catalog.tex %%%%%%%%%
> > \starttypescript [serif] [catalog]
> > \setups[font:fallback:serif]
> > \definefontsynonym [Serif] [CharisSIL-Regular]
> > \definefontsynonym [SerifItalic] [CharisSIL-Italic]
> > \definefontsynonym [SerifBold] [CharisSIL-Bold]
> > \definefontsynonym [SerifBoldItalic] [CharisSIL-BoldItalic]
> > \stoptypescript
> >
> > \starttypescript [serif] [catalog]
> > \definefontsynonym [CharisSIL-Regular]
> > [file:CharisSILR][features=default]
> > \definefontsynonym [CharisSIL-Italic]
> > [file:CharisSILI][features=default]
> > \definefontsynonym [CharisSIL-Bold]
> > [file:CharisSILB][features=default]
> > \definefontsynonym [CharisSIL-BoldItalic]
> > [file:CharisSILBI][features=default]
> > \stoptypescript
> >
> > \starttypescript [sans] [catalog]
> > \setups[font:fallback:sans]
> > \definefontsynonym [Sans] [Delicious-Regular]
> > \definefontsynonym [SansItalic] [Delicious-Italic]
> > \definefontsynonym [SansBold] [Delicious-Bold]
> > \definefontsynonym [SansBoldItalic] [Delicious-BoldItalic]
> > \definefontsynonym [SansCaps] [Delicious-Caps]
> > \stoptypescript
> >
> > \starttypescript [sans] [catalog]
> > \definefontsynonym [Delicious-Regular] [name:Delicious-Roman]
> > [features=default]
> > \definefontsynonym [Delicious-Italic] [name:Delicious-Italic]
> > [features=default]
> > \definefontsynonym [Delicious-Bold] [name:Delicious-Bold]
> > [features=default]
> > \definefontsynonym [Delicious-BoldItalic] [name:Delicious-BoldItalic]
> > [features=default]
> > \definefontsynonym [Delicious-Caps] [name:Delicious-SmallCaps]
> > [features=default]
> > \stoptypescript
> >
> > \starttypescript [catalog]
> > \definetypeface [catalog] [rm] [serif] [catalog] [default]
> > \definetypeface [catalog] [ss] [sans] [catalog] [default]
> > \stoptypescript
> > %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%
> >
> >
> > %%%test.tex%%%%%%%%%%%
> > \usetypefile[catalog]
> > \usetypescript[catalog]
> > \setupbodyfont[catalog,8pt,serif]
> > \starttext
> > \rm
> > \input tufte
> > \ss
> > \input tufte
> > \stoptext
> > %%%%%%%%%%%%%%
> >
> > $> context test.tex
> > $>pdffonts test.pdf
> >
> > name type emb sub uni object
> ID
> > ------------------------------------ ----------------- --- --- ---
> ---------
> > HMORXY+CharisSIL CID TrueType yes yes yes
> 4 0
> > EVRTHR+Delicious-Roman CID Type 0C yes yes yes
> 5 0
> >
> >
> > --
> > luigi
> >
> >
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> > the Wiki!
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> > archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/
> > wiki : http://contextgarden.net
> >
> ___________________________________________________________________________________
> >
> >
>
> Luigi,
> thanks very much for your efforts.
>
> Apparently,
> \usetypescriptfile[catalog]
> \usetypescript[catalog]
> doesn't work, whereas
> \usetypefile[catalog]
> \usetypescript[catalog]
> does.
>
so does it work now for you ?
> Is there any reason for this ?
>
sure...there is always a reason for things...but I don't remember :)
Try to look into the source .
--
luigi
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* Re: Where to store typescripts ?
2009-06-04 15:28 ` Nicolas Girard
2009-06-04 15:33 ` luigi scarso
@ 2009-06-04 15:55 ` Wolfgang Schuster
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From: Wolfgang Schuster @ 2009-06-04 15:55 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Am 04.06.2009 um 17:28 schrieb Nicolas Girard:
> Apparently,
> \usetypescriptfile[catalog]
> \usetypescript[catalog]
> doesn't work, whereas
> \usetypefile[catalog]
> \usetypescript[catalog]
> does.
>
> Is there any reason for this ?
The convention for typescript files is to save them as type-<fontname|
foundry|...>.tex and load it either with
\usetypescriptfile[type-<...>]
or
\usetypefile[<...>]
where ConTeXt prepends 'type-' when it load the file but
\usetypescriptfile is the preferred command because it takes care of
\starttypescriptcollection/\stoptypescriptcollection environments.
Wolfgang
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* Re: Where to store typescripts ?
2009-06-04 14:44 ` Nicolas Girard
2009-06-04 14:54 ` luigi scarso
@ 2009-06-04 17:17 ` Wolfgang Schuster
2009-06-04 17:29 ` Nicolas Girard
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From: Wolfgang Schuster @ 2009-06-04 17:17 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Am 04.06.2009 um 16:44 schrieb Nicolas Girard:
> Wow. Now, I'm lost -- and i still can't make it work anyway.
> Could you explain right from the start ?
>
> Let's assume (as it is the case on my system) that the Delicious fonts
> are properly installed *and* the font database knows about it.
> Let's assume context = LuaTeX mkiv
>
> Now,
>
> 1. if I want to create a typescript file supporting some XX fonts, do
> I need to name the file type-XX.some_extension, or is it only a
> convention and the file could also be named XX.some_extension or even
> whatever.some_extension ?
You can use <whatever>.tex for the name of the file but the convention
is
to name it type-<whatever>.tex.
> 2. what should be the extension for mkiv ? .mkiv ? .tex ? Are both
> allowed ?
You could write extra files to follow the different naming conventions
for XeTeX and LuaTeX and name the files type-<whatever>.mkii/mkiv and
load it in the type-<...>.tex file with \loadmarkfile{type-<...>}.
> 3. Assuming I properly install such
> http://bitbucket.org/wolfs/typescripts/src/7050bb6918bb/type-exljbris.mkiv
> file, should I load it using
> \usetypescriptfile[type-exljbris]
> or
> \usetypescriptfile[exljbris]
> ?
You load in your document type-exljbris.tex, the mkii/mkiv files are
loaded from type-exljbris.tex dependend what engine you use and never
by yourself.
> 4. What is the relationship between type-exljbris.mkiv and
> type-exljbris.tex ? Is type-exljbris.tex necessary when using mkiv ?
See above.
> 5. In order to install one or several typescript files, I should first
> copy them, either in
> tex/texmf-fonts/tex/context/user
> or in
> tex/texmf-project/tex/context/user
> right ?
Yes but I can create a package with all files you can the load from
the modules section or with the minimals updater.
> But then,
> what is it necessary to run ?
> - context --generate ?
> - mtxrun --script fonts --reload ?
> - both ?
When you saved the typescript files (tex + mkii/mkiv) in the above
folder
call 'context --generate' to let ConTeXt know there are new files
available.
The second command 'mtxrun --script fonts --reload' is used to let
ConTeXt
look for new fonts but this normally happen by default when you request
a new font which is unknown to ConTeXt. The only case (I know at the
moment)
when you need the command is when you have install a new font which
has the
same name as a old one but a different file extension, did not happen
very
often a few fonts are available in TT and OT format.
> 6. How comes ConTeXt can silently substitute my fonts, without even
> outputting any error message ?
> How to change this behaviour ?
> How to disable font substitution ?
This happens only when the font you requested is not available
or you try to load not existing typescripts.
Wolfgang
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* Re: Where to store typescripts ?
2009-06-04 15:33 ` luigi scarso
@ 2009-06-04 17:18 ` Nicolas Girard
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From: Nicolas Girard @ 2009-06-04 17:18 UTC (permalink / raw)
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2009/6/4 luigi scarso <luigi.scarso@gmail.com>:
>
> so does it work now for you ?
Yes it does.
Thanks everybody for your assistance.
I've summarized what I understood from this thread here:
http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Fonts_in_LuaTex#The_standard_way:_Typescripts
Please have a look & correct my mistakes.
Cheers,
Nicolas
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* Re: Where to store typescripts ?
2009-06-04 17:17 ` Wolfgang Schuster
@ 2009-06-04 17:29 ` Nicolas Girard
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From: Nicolas Girard @ 2009-06-04 17:29 UTC (permalink / raw)
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2009/6/4 Wolfgang Schuster <schuster.wolfgang@googlemail.com>:
>
Thanks Wolfgang ! I think pretty much everything you said should now
be in http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Fonts_in_LuaTex , except for font
substitution, which I find quite annoying. Anyway...
Cheers,
Nicolas
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* Re: Where to store typescripts ?
2009-06-04 14:54 ` luigi scarso
2009-06-04 15:28 ` Nicolas Girard
@ 2009-06-08 22:35 ` Mojca Miklavec
2009-06-09 9:47 ` Nicolas Girard
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From: Mojca Miklavec @ 2009-06-08 22:35 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 16:54, luigi scarso wrote:
>
> I have
> minimals/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/user/type-catalog.tex
This is a bad place - there's a high risk that it will be removed or
overwritten. Use texmf-local or texmf-project or texmf-fonts or
~/texmf or whatever else ... but better not texmf or texmf-context.
In TeX Live ~/texmf should work.
Mojca
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* Re: Where to store typescripts ?
2009-06-08 22:35 ` Mojca Miklavec
@ 2009-06-09 9:47 ` Nicolas Girard
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From: Nicolas Girard @ 2009-06-09 9:47 UTC (permalink / raw)
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2009/6/9 Mojca Miklavec <mojca.miklavec.lists@gmail.com>:
> On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 16:54, luigi scarso wrote:
>>
>> I have
>> minimals/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/user/type-catalog.tex
>
> This is a bad place - there's a high risk that it will be removed or
> overwritten. Use texmf-local or texmf-project or texmf-fonts or
> ~/texmf or whatever else ... but better not texmf or texmf-context.
>
> In TeX Live ~/texmf should work.
>
I Mojca,
could you please update the wiki (
http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Fonts_in_LuaTex#Installing_typescripts )
with these informations, or elaborate a little bit more ? I'm unsure
about the precise directories you're advising (eg, texmf-fonts ->
minimals/tex/texmf-fonts/tex/context/user/ ? )
Thanks in advance,
Nicolas
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