Where to store typescripts ?

Where to store typescripts ?

[Nicolas Girard]

Hi,

Where should typescript files be stored ?
Is it possible to store them in user space, eg in a subdirectory of
Luatex cache (when using luatex) ?

Thanks in advance!
Nicolas
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Re: Where to store typescripts ?

[luigi scarso]

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On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 10:34 AM, Nicolas Girard <nicolas.girard@nerim.net>wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Where should typescript files be stored ?
>

If you have minimals(-beta)
try
minimals/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/user

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Re: Where to store typescripts ?

[Hans Hagen]

luigi scarso wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 10:34 AM, Nicolas Girard <nicolas.girard@nerim.net>wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>>
>> Where should typescript files be stored ?
>>
> 
> If you have minimals(-beta)
> try
> minimals/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/user

personal ones?

minimals/tex/texmf-fonts/tex/context/user
minimals/tex/texmf-project/tex/context/user

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Re: Where to store typescripts ?

[Nicolas Girard]

2009/6/4 luigi scarso <luigi.scarso@gmail.com>:
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 10:34 AM, Nicolas Girard <nicolas.girard@nerim.net>
> wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Where should typescript files be stored ?
>
> If you have minimals(-beta)
> try
> minimals/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/user
>

Hi Luigi,
thanks for your answer.
I'm using the latest mkiv installed over texlive 2008.
It is a system directory ; is it the only one ?

Anyway I couldn't get my typescript file to work.
Here's what I did:

(assume TF is http://bitbucket.org/wolfs/typescripts/src/7050bb6918bb/type-exljbris.mkiv
)

1. put the contents of TF in a test document along with
\usetypescript[delicious]
The document compiled fine and the Delicious fonts were properly included.

2. copied TF in tex/context/user/ as adviced
3. ran mktexlsr, just in case
4. In the test document, removed the contents of TF and replaced it with
\usetypescriptfile[type-exljibris]

The compilation ran smoothly, I should say too smoothly, because I
couldn't find any font-related error message, neither in the output,
nor in the log file. And however, ConTeXt used lmodern fonts instead
of the Delicious fonts.

Cheers,
Nicolas
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Re: Where to store typescripts ?

[luigi scarso]

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On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 11:11 AM, Nicolas Girard <nicolas.girard@nerim.net>wrote:

> 2009/6/4 luigi scarso <luigi.scarso@gmail.com>:
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 10:34 AM, Nicolas Girard <
> nicolas.girard@nerim.net>
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> Where should typescript files be stored ?
> >
> > If you have minimals(-beta)
> > try
> > minimals/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/user
> >
>
> Hi Luigi,
> thanks for your answer.
> I'm using the latest mkiv installed over texlive 2008.
> It is a system directory ; is it the only one ?
>
> Anyway I couldn't get my typescript file to work.
> Here's what I did:
>
> (assume TF is
> http://bitbucket.org/wolfs/typescripts/src/7050bb6918bb/type-exljbris.mkiv
> )
>
> 1. put the contents of TF in a test document along with
> \usetypescript[delicious]
> The document compiled fine and the Delicious fonts were properly included.
>
> 2. copied TF in tex/context/user/ as adviced
> 3. ran mktexlsr, just in case
>
hmm
try context --generate


x Wolfgang
maybe is better to add some instructions on usage at the end ...

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Re: Where to store typescripts ?

[Nicolas Girard]

2009/6/4 luigi scarso <luigi.scarso@gmail.com>:
> hmm
> try context --generate
>

Tried that, and it didn't work.

Nicolas
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Re: Where to store typescripts ?

[luigi scarso]

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On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 4:00 PM, Nicolas Girard <nicolas.girard@nerim.net>wrote:

> 2009/6/4 luigi scarso <luigi.scarso@gmail.com>:
> > hmm
> > try context --generate
> >
>
> Tried that, and it didn't work.
>
> Nicolas
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Did you put something like
 \usetypefile[delicious]
or
\usetypefile[exljbris]<http://bitbucket.org/wolfs/typescripts/src/7050bb6918bb/type-exljbris.mkiv>
before \usetypescript ?
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Re: Where to store typescripts ?

[Wolfgang Schuster]

Am 04.06.2009 um 16:00 schrieb Nicolas Girard:

> 2009/6/4 luigi scarso <luigi.scarso@gmail.com>:
>> hmm
>> try context --generate
>
> Tried that, and it didn't work.

Dou you have also type-exljbris.tex?

Wolfgang

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Re: Where to store typescripts ?

[Peter Rolf]

Nicolas Girard schrieb:
> 2009/6/4 luigi scarso <luigi.scarso@gmail.com>:
>   
>> hmm
>> try context --generate
>>
>>     
>
> Tried that, and it didn't work.
>   
you can try

mtxrun --script fonts --reload


Best wishes, Peter
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Re: Where to store typescripts ?

[luigi scarso]

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On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 4:07 PM, Wolfgang Schuster <
schuster.wolfgang@googlemail.com> wrote:

>
> Am 04.06.2009 um 16:00 schrieb Nicolas Girard:
>
>  2009/6/4 luigi scarso <luigi.scarso@gmail.com>:
>>
>>> hmm
>>> try context --generate
>>>
>>
>> Tried that, and it didn't work.
>>
>
> Dou you have also type-exljbris.tex?
>

why don't  put an example of use at the end of the typescript ?

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Re: Where to store typescripts ?

[Nicolas Girard]

Wow. Now, I'm lost -- and i still can't make it work anyway.
Could you explain right from the start ?

Let's assume (as it is the case on my system) that the Delicious fonts
are properly installed *and* the font database knows about it.
Let's assume context = LuaTeX mkiv

Now,

1. if I want to create a typescript file supporting some XX fonts, do
I need to name the file type-XX.some_extension, or is it only a
convention and the file could also be named XX.some_extension or even
whatever.some_extension ?

2. what should be the extension for mkiv ? .mkiv ? .tex ? Are both allowed ?

3. Assuming I properly install such
http://bitbucket.org/wolfs/typescripts/src/7050bb6918bb/type-exljbris.mkiv
file, should I load it using
  \usetypescriptfile[type-exljbris]
or
  \usetypescriptfile[exljbris]
?

4. What is the relationship between type-exljbris.mkiv and
type-exljbris.tex ? Is type-exljbris.tex necessary when using mkiv ?
5. In order to install one or several typescript files, I should first
copy them, either in
    tex/texmf-fonts/tex/context/user
or in
    tex/texmf-project/tex/context/user
right ?
But then,
what is it necessary to run ?
- context --generate ?
- mtxrun --script fonts --reload ?
- both ?

6. How comes ConTeXt can silently substitute my fonts, without even
outputting any error message ?
How to change this behaviour ?
How to disable font substitution ?


Hopefully you forgive me for asking so many questions. Beware, answers
will be recorded and published in the wiki ;-)
Cheers,
Nicolas
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Re: Where to store typescripts ?

[luigi scarso]

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On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 4:44 PM, Nicolas Girard <nicolas.girard@nerim.net>wrote:

> Wow. Now, I'm lost -- and i still can't make it work anyway.
> Could you explain right from the start ?
>
> Let's assume (as it is the case on my system) that the Delicious fonts
> are properly installed *and* the font database knows about it.
> Let's assume context = LuaTeX mkiv
>
> Now,
>
> 1. if I want to create a typescript file supporting some XX fonts, do
> I need to name the file type-XX.some_extension, or is it only a
> convention and the file could also be named XX.some_extension or even
> whatever.some_extension ?
>
> 2. what should be the extension for mkiv ? .mkiv ? .tex ? Are both allowed
> ?
>
> 3. Assuming I properly install such
> http://bitbucket.org/wolfs/typescripts/src/7050bb6918bb/type-exljbris.mkiv
> file, should I load it using
>  \usetypescriptfile[type-exljbris]
> or
>  \usetypescriptfile[exljbris]
> ?
>
> 4. What is the relationship between type-exljbris.mkiv and
> type-exljbris.tex ? Is type-exljbris.tex necessary when using mkiv ?
> 5. In order to install one or several typescript files, I should first
> copy them, either in
>     tex/texmf-fonts/tex/context/user
> or in
>     tex/texmf-project/tex/context/user
> right ?
> But then,
> what is it necessary to run ?
> - context --generate ?
> - mtxrun --script fonts --reload ?
> - both ?
>
> 6. How comes ConTeXt can silently substitute my fonts, without even
> outputting any error message ?
> How to change this behaviour ?
> How to disable font substitution ?
>
>
> Hopefully you forgive me for asking so many questions. Beware, answers
> will be recorded and published in the wiki ;-)
> Cheers,
> Nicolas
>
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>

Here my example
I have
minimals/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/user/type-catalog.tex

and eventually
context --generate

%%type-catalog.tex %%%%%%%%%
\starttypescript [serif] [catalog]
 \setups[font:fallback:serif]
 \definefontsynonym [Serif]           [CharisSIL-Regular]
 \definefontsynonym [SerifItalic]     [CharisSIL-Italic]
 \definefontsynonym [SerifBold]       [CharisSIL-Bold]
 \definefontsynonym [SerifBoldItalic] [CharisSIL-BoldItalic]
\stoptypescript

\starttypescript [serif] [catalog]
 \definefontsynonym [CharisSIL-Regular]
[file:CharisSILR][features=default]
 \definefontsynonym [CharisSIL-Italic]
[file:CharisSILI][features=default]
 \definefontsynonym [CharisSIL-Bold]
[file:CharisSILB][features=default]
 \definefontsynonym [CharisSIL-BoldItalic]
[file:CharisSILBI][features=default]
\stoptypescript

\starttypescript [sans] [catalog]
 \setups[font:fallback:sans]
 \definefontsynonym [Sans]           [Delicious-Regular]
 \definefontsynonym [SansItalic]     [Delicious-Italic]
 \definefontsynonym [SansBold]       [Delicious-Bold]
 \definefontsynonym [SansBoldItalic] [Delicious-BoldItalic]
 \definefontsynonym [SansCaps]       [Delicious-Caps]
\stoptypescript

\starttypescript [sans] [catalog]
 \definefontsynonym [Delicious-Regular]    [name:Delicious-Roman]
[features=default]
 \definefontsynonym [Delicious-Italic]     [name:Delicious-Italic]
[features=default]
 \definefontsynonym [Delicious-Bold]       [name:Delicious-Bold]
[features=default]
 \definefontsynonym [Delicious-BoldItalic] [name:Delicious-BoldItalic]
[features=default]
 \definefontsynonym [Delicious-Caps]       [name:Delicious-SmallCaps]
[features=default]
\stoptypescript

\starttypescript [catalog]
 \definetypeface [catalog] [rm] [serif] [catalog] [default]
 \definetypeface [catalog] [ss] [sans] [catalog] [default]
\stoptypescript
%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%


%%%test.tex%%%%%%%%%%%
\usetypefile[catalog]
\usetypescript[catalog]
\setupbodyfont[catalog,8pt,serif]
\starttext
\rm
\input tufte
\ss
\input tufte
\stoptext
%%%%%%%%%%%%%%

$> context test.tex
$>pdffonts test.pdf

name                                 type              emb sub uni object ID
------------------------------------ ----------------- --- --- --- ---------
HMORXY+CharisSIL                     CID TrueType      yes yes yes      4  0
EVRTHR+Delicious-Roman               CID Type 0C       yes yes yes      5  0


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Re: Where to store typescripts ?

[Nicolas Girard]

2009/6/4 luigi scarso <luigi.scarso@gmail.com>:
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 4:44 PM, Nicolas Girard <nicolas.girard@nerim.net>
> wrote:
>>
>> Wow. Now, I'm lost -- and i still can't make it work anyway.
>> Could you explain right from the start ?
>>
>> Let's assume (as it is the case on my system) that the Delicious fonts
>> are properly installed *and* the font database knows about it.
>> Let's assume context = LuaTeX mkiv
>>
>> Now,
>>
>> 1. if I want to create a typescript file supporting some XX fonts, do
>> I need to name the file type-XX.some_extension, or is it only a
>> convention and the file could also be named XX.some_extension or even
>> whatever.some_extension ?
>>
>> 2. what should be the extension for mkiv ? .mkiv ? .tex ? Are both allowed
>> ?
>>
>> 3. Assuming I properly install such
>> http://bitbucket.org/wolfs/typescripts/src/7050bb6918bb/type-exljbris.mkiv
>> file, should I load it using
>>  \usetypescriptfile[type-exljbris]
>> or
>>  \usetypescriptfile[exljbris]
>> ?
>>
>> 4. What is the relationship between type-exljbris.mkiv and
>> type-exljbris.tex ? Is type-exljbris.tex necessary when using mkiv ?
>> 5. In order to install one or several typescript files, I should first
>> copy them, either in
>>    tex/texmf-fonts/tex/context/user
>> or in
>>    tex/texmf-project/tex/context/user
>> right ?
>> But then,
>> what is it necessary to run ?
>> - context --generate ?
>> - mtxrun --script fonts --reload ?
>> - both ?
>>
>> 6. How comes ConTeXt can silently substitute my fonts, without even
>> outputting any error message ?
>> How to change this behaviour ?
>> How to disable font substitution ?
>>
>>
>> Hopefully you forgive me for asking so many questions. Beware, answers
>> will be recorded and published in the wiki ;-)
>> Cheers,
>> Nicolas
>>
>> ___________________________________________________________________________________
>> If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to
>> the Wiki!
>>
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>>
>> ___________________________________________________________________________________
>
> Here my example
> I have
> minimals/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/user/type-catalog.tex
>
> and eventually
> context --generate
>
> %%type-catalog.tex %%%%%%%%%
> \starttypescript [serif] [catalog]
>  \setups[font:fallback:serif]
>  \definefontsynonym [Serif]           [CharisSIL-Regular]
>  \definefontsynonym [SerifItalic]     [CharisSIL-Italic]
>  \definefontsynonym [SerifBold]       [CharisSIL-Bold]
>  \definefontsynonym [SerifBoldItalic] [CharisSIL-BoldItalic]
> \stoptypescript
>
> \starttypescript [serif] [catalog]
>  \definefontsynonym [CharisSIL-Regular]
> [file:CharisSILR][features=default]
>  \definefontsynonym [CharisSIL-Italic]
> [file:CharisSILI][features=default]
>  \definefontsynonym [CharisSIL-Bold]
> [file:CharisSILB][features=default]
>  \definefontsynonym [CharisSIL-BoldItalic]
> [file:CharisSILBI][features=default]
> \stoptypescript
>
> \starttypescript [sans] [catalog]
>  \setups[font:fallback:sans]
>  \definefontsynonym [Sans]           [Delicious-Regular]
>  \definefontsynonym [SansItalic]     [Delicious-Italic]
>  \definefontsynonym [SansBold]       [Delicious-Bold]
>  \definefontsynonym [SansBoldItalic] [Delicious-BoldItalic]
>  \definefontsynonym [SansCaps]       [Delicious-Caps]
> \stoptypescript
>
> \starttypescript [sans] [catalog]
>  \definefontsynonym [Delicious-Regular]    [name:Delicious-Roman]
> [features=default]
>  \definefontsynonym [Delicious-Italic]     [name:Delicious-Italic]
> [features=default]
>  \definefontsynonym [Delicious-Bold]       [name:Delicious-Bold]
> [features=default]
>  \definefontsynonym [Delicious-BoldItalic] [name:Delicious-BoldItalic]
> [features=default]
>  \definefontsynonym [Delicious-Caps]       [name:Delicious-SmallCaps]
> [features=default]
> \stoptypescript
>
> \starttypescript [catalog]
>  \definetypeface [catalog] [rm] [serif] [catalog] [default]
>  \definetypeface [catalog] [ss] [sans] [catalog] [default]
> \stoptypescript
> %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%
>
>
> %%%test.tex%%%%%%%%%%%
> \usetypefile[catalog]
> \usetypescript[catalog]
> \setupbodyfont[catalog,8pt,serif]
> \starttext
> \rm
> \input tufte
> \ss
> \input tufte
> \stoptext
> %%%%%%%%%%%%%%
>
> $> context test.tex
> $>pdffonts test.pdf
>
> name                                 type              emb sub uni object ID
> ------------------------------------ ----------------- --- --- --- ---------
> HMORXY+CharisSIL                     CID TrueType      yes yes yes      4  0
> EVRTHR+Delicious-Roman               CID Type 0C       yes yes yes      5  0
>
>
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Luigi,
thanks very much for your efforts.

Apparently,
  \usetypescriptfile[catalog]
  \usetypescript[catalog]
doesn't work, whereas
  \usetypefile[catalog]
  \usetypescript[catalog]
does.

Is there any reason for this ?

Cheers,
nicolas
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Re: Where to store typescripts ?

[luigi scarso]

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On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 5:28 PM, Nicolas Girard <nicolas.girard@nerim.net>wrote:

> 2009/6/4 luigi scarso <luigi.scarso@gmail.com>:
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 4:44 PM, Nicolas Girard <nicolas.girard@nerim.net
> >
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> Wow. Now, I'm lost -- and i still can't make it work anyway.
> >> Could you explain right from the start ?
> >>
> >> Let's assume (as it is the case on my system) that the Delicious fonts
> >> are properly installed *and* the font database knows about it.
> >> Let's assume context = LuaTeX mkiv
> >>
> >> Now,
> >>
> >> 1. if I want to create a typescript file supporting some XX fonts, do
> >> I need to name the file type-XX.some_extension, or is it only a
> >> convention and the file could also be named XX.some_extension or even
> >> whatever.some_extension ?
> >>
> >> 2. what should be the extension for mkiv ? .mkiv ? .tex ? Are both
> allowed
> >> ?
> >>
> >> 3. Assuming I properly install such
> >>
> http://bitbucket.org/wolfs/typescripts/src/7050bb6918bb/type-exljbris.mkiv
> >> file, should I load it using
> >>  \usetypescriptfile[type-exljbris]
> >> or
> >>  \usetypescriptfile[exljbris]
> >> ?
> >>
> >> 4. What is the relationship between type-exljbris.mkiv and
> >> type-exljbris.tex ? Is type-exljbris.tex necessary when using mkiv ?
> >> 5. In order to install one or several typescript files, I should first
> >> copy them, either in
> >>    tex/texmf-fonts/tex/context/user
> >> or in
> >>    tex/texmf-project/tex/context/user
> >> right ?
> >> But then,
> >> what is it necessary to run ?
> >> - context --generate ?
> >> - mtxrun --script fonts --reload ?
> >> - both ?
> >>
> >> 6. How comes ConTeXt can silently substitute my fonts, without even
> >> outputting any error message ?
> >> How to change this behaviour ?
> >> How to disable font substitution ?
> >>
> >>
> >> Hopefully you forgive me for asking so many questions. Beware, answers
> >> will be recorded and published in the wiki ;-)
> >> Cheers,
> >> Nicolas
> >>
> >>
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> ___________________________________________________________________________________
> >
> > Here my example
> > I have
> > minimals/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/user/type-catalog.tex
> >
> > and eventually
> > context --generate
> >
> > %%type-catalog.tex %%%%%%%%%
> > \starttypescript [serif] [catalog]
> >  \setups[font:fallback:serif]
> >  \definefontsynonym [Serif]           [CharisSIL-Regular]
> >  \definefontsynonym [SerifItalic]     [CharisSIL-Italic]
> >  \definefontsynonym [SerifBold]       [CharisSIL-Bold]
> >  \definefontsynonym [SerifBoldItalic] [CharisSIL-BoldItalic]
> > \stoptypescript
> >
> > \starttypescript [serif] [catalog]
> >  \definefontsynonym [CharisSIL-Regular]
> > [file:CharisSILR][features=default]
> >  \definefontsynonym [CharisSIL-Italic]
> > [file:CharisSILI][features=default]
> >  \definefontsynonym [CharisSIL-Bold]
> > [file:CharisSILB][features=default]
> >  \definefontsynonym [CharisSIL-BoldItalic]
> > [file:CharisSILBI][features=default]
> > \stoptypescript
> >
> > \starttypescript [sans] [catalog]
> >  \setups[font:fallback:sans]
> >  \definefontsynonym [Sans]           [Delicious-Regular]
> >  \definefontsynonym [SansItalic]     [Delicious-Italic]
> >  \definefontsynonym [SansBold]       [Delicious-Bold]
> >  \definefontsynonym [SansBoldItalic] [Delicious-BoldItalic]
> >  \definefontsynonym [SansCaps]       [Delicious-Caps]
> > \stoptypescript
> >
> > \starttypescript [sans] [catalog]
> >  \definefontsynonym [Delicious-Regular]    [name:Delicious-Roman]
> > [features=default]
> >  \definefontsynonym [Delicious-Italic]     [name:Delicious-Italic]
> > [features=default]
> >  \definefontsynonym [Delicious-Bold]       [name:Delicious-Bold]
> > [features=default]
> >  \definefontsynonym [Delicious-BoldItalic] [name:Delicious-BoldItalic]
> > [features=default]
> >  \definefontsynonym [Delicious-Caps]       [name:Delicious-SmallCaps]
> > [features=default]
> > \stoptypescript
> >
> > \starttypescript [catalog]
> >  \definetypeface [catalog] [rm] [serif] [catalog] [default]
> >  \definetypeface [catalog] [ss] [sans] [catalog] [default]
> > \stoptypescript
> > %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%
> >
> >
> > %%%test.tex%%%%%%%%%%%
> > \usetypefile[catalog]
> > \usetypescript[catalog]
> > \setupbodyfont[catalog,8pt,serif]
> > \starttext
> > \rm
> > \input tufte
> > \ss
> > \input tufte
> > \stoptext
> > %%%%%%%%%%%%%%
> >
> > $> context test.tex
> > $>pdffonts test.pdf
> >
> > name                                 type              emb sub uni object
> ID
> > ------------------------------------ ----------------- --- --- ---
> ---------
> > HMORXY+CharisSIL                     CID TrueType      yes yes yes
> 4  0
> > EVRTHR+Delicious-Roman               CID Type 0C       yes yes yes
> 5  0
> >
> >
> > --
> > luigi
> >
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> >
>
> Luigi,
> thanks very much for your efforts.
>
> Apparently,
>  \usetypescriptfile[catalog]
>  \usetypescript[catalog]
> doesn't work, whereas
>  \usetypefile[catalog]
>  \usetypescript[catalog]
> does.
>
so does it work now for you ?


> Is there any reason for this ?
>
sure...there is always a reason for things...but I don't remember :)
Try to look into the source .

-- 
luigi

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Re: Where to store typescripts ?

[Wolfgang Schuster]

Am 04.06.2009 um 17:28 schrieb Nicolas Girard:

> Apparently,
>  \usetypescriptfile[catalog]
>  \usetypescript[catalog]
> doesn't work, whereas
>  \usetypefile[catalog]
>  \usetypescript[catalog]
> does.
>
> Is there any reason for this ?

The convention for typescript files is to save them as type-<fontname| 
foundry|...>.tex and load it either with

   \usetypescriptfile[type-<...>]

or

   \usetypefile[<...>]

where ConTeXt prepends 'type-' when it load the file but  
\usetypescriptfile is the preferred command because it takes care of  
\starttypescriptcollection/\stoptypescriptcollection environments.

Wolfgang

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Re: Where to store typescripts ?

[Wolfgang Schuster]

Am 04.06.2009 um 16:44 schrieb Nicolas Girard:

> Wow. Now, I'm lost -- and i still can't make it work anyway.
> Could you explain right from the start ?
>
> Let's assume (as it is the case on my system) that the Delicious fonts
> are properly installed *and* the font database knows about it.
> Let's assume context = LuaTeX mkiv
>
> Now,
>
> 1. if I want to create a typescript file supporting some XX fonts, do
> I need to name the file type-XX.some_extension, or is it only a
> convention and the file could also be named XX.some_extension or even
> whatever.some_extension ?

You can use <whatever>.tex for the name of the file but the convention  
is
to name it type-<whatever>.tex.

> 2. what should be the extension for mkiv ? .mkiv ? .tex ? Are both  
> allowed ?

You could write extra files to follow the different naming conventions
for XeTeX and LuaTeX and name the files type-<whatever>.mkii/mkiv and
load it in the type-<...>.tex file with \loadmarkfile{type-<...>}.

> 3. Assuming I properly install such
> http://bitbucket.org/wolfs/typescripts/src/7050bb6918bb/type-exljbris.mkiv
> file, should I load it using
>  \usetypescriptfile[type-exljbris]
> or
>  \usetypescriptfile[exljbris]
> ?

You load in your document type-exljbris.tex, the mkii/mkiv files are
loaded from type-exljbris.tex dependend what engine you use and never
by yourself.

> 4. What is the relationship between type-exljbris.mkiv and
> type-exljbris.tex ? Is type-exljbris.tex necessary when using mkiv ?

See above.

> 5. In order to install one or several typescript files, I should first
> copy them, either in
>    tex/texmf-fonts/tex/context/user
> or in
>    tex/texmf-project/tex/context/user
> right ?

Yes but I can create a package with all files you can the load from
the modules section or with the minimals updater.

> But then,
> what is it necessary to run ?
> - context --generate ?
> - mtxrun --script fonts --reload ?
> - both ?

When you saved the typescript files (tex + mkii/mkiv) in the above  
folder
call 'context --generate' to let ConTeXt know there are new files  
available.

The second command 'mtxrun --script fonts --reload' is used to let  
ConTeXt
look for new fonts but this normally happen by default when you request
a new font which is unknown to ConTeXt. The only case (I know at the  
moment)
when you need the command is when you have install a new font which  
has the
same name as a old one but a different file extension, did not happen  
very
often a few fonts are available in TT and OT format.

> 6. How comes ConTeXt can silently substitute my fonts, without even
> outputting any error message ?
> How to change this behaviour ?
> How to disable font substitution ?

This happens only when the font you requested is not available
or you try to load not existing typescripts.

Wolfgang

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Re: Where to store typescripts ?

[Nicolas Girard]

2009/6/4 luigi scarso <luigi.scarso@gmail.com>:
>
> so does it work now for you ?

Yes it does.
Thanks everybody for your assistance.

I've summarized what I understood from this thread here:
http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Fonts_in_LuaTex#The_standard_way:_Typescripts
Please have a look & correct my mistakes.

Cheers,
Nicolas
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Re: Where to store typescripts ?

[Nicolas Girard]

2009/6/4 Wolfgang Schuster <schuster.wolfgang@googlemail.com>:
>

Thanks Wolfgang ! I think pretty much everything you said should now
be in http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Fonts_in_LuaTex , except for font
substitution, which I find quite annoying. Anyway...

Cheers,
Nicolas
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Re: Where to store typescripts ?

[Mojca Miklavec]

On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 16:54, luigi scarso wrote:
>
> I have
> minimals/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/user/type-catalog.tex

This is a bad place - there's a high risk that it will be removed or
overwritten. Use texmf-local or texmf-project or texmf-fonts or
~/texmf or whatever else ... but better not texmf or texmf-context.

In TeX Live ~/texmf should work.

Mojca
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Re: Where to store typescripts ?

[Nicolas Girard]

2009/6/9 Mojca Miklavec <mojca.miklavec.lists@gmail.com>:
> On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 16:54, luigi scarso wrote:
>>
>> I have
>> minimals/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/user/type-catalog.tex
>
> This is a bad place - there's a high risk that it will be removed or
> overwritten. Use texmf-local or texmf-project or texmf-fonts or
> ~/texmf or whatever else ... but better not texmf or texmf-context.
>
> In TeX Live ~/texmf should work.
>

I Mojca,

could you please update the wiki (
http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Fonts_in_LuaTex#Installing_typescripts )
with these informations, or elaborate a little bit more ? I'm unsure
about the precise directories you're advising (eg, texmf-fonts ->
minimals/tex/texmf-fonts/tex/context/user/ ? )
Thanks in advance,
Nicolas
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