From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/84154 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Hans Hagen Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: EPUB XHTML Format Date: Sat, 07 Sep 2013 14:07:10 +0200 Message-ID: <522B16EE.8080005@wxs.nl> References: Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1378555658 30680 80.91.229.3 (7 Sep 2013 12:07:38 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 7 Sep 2013 12:07:38 +0000 (UTC) To: ntg-context@ntg.nl Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Sat Sep 07 14:07:43 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([5.39.185.229]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VIHIk-0004nz-F2 for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Sat, 07 Sep 2013 14:07:42 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55C8A10258; Sat, 7 Sep 2013 14:06:05 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at balder.ntg.nl Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (balder.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 11gpY73S++LO; Sat, 7 Sep 2013 14:06:03 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5282D101F5; Sat, 7 Sep 2013 14:06:03 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A538101F5 for ; Sat, 7 Sep 2013 14:06:02 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at balder.ntg.nl Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (balder.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id lkFptgfBT8ch for ; Sat, 7 Sep 2013 14:06:01 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from filter1-til.mf.surf.net (filter1-til.mf.surf.net [194.171.167.217]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FAF2101F0 for ; Sat, 7 Sep 2013 14:06:01 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from smtp.ziggozakelijk.nl (D57D1DA2.static.ziggozakelijk.nl [213.125.29.162]) by filter1-til.mf.surf.net (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-9.4) with ESMTP id r87C7af5018384 for ; Sat, 7 Sep 2013 14:07:37 +0200 X-Default-Received-SPF: pass (skip=loggedin (res=PASS)) x-ip-name=10.100.1.103; Original-Received: from [10.100.1.103] (unverified [10.100.1.103]) by pragma-net.nl (SurgeMail 6.3c2) with ESMTP id 4489-1713362 for ; Sat, 07 Sep 2013 14:07:36 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.2; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130801 Thunderbird/17.0.8 In-Reply-To: X-Authenticated-User: hagen@controller-9 X-Bayes-Prob: 0.0001 (Score 0, tokens from: @@RPTN) X-CanIt-Geo: ip=213.125.29.162; country=NL; region=15; city=Zwolle; latitude=52.5058; longitude=6.0858; http://maps.google.com/maps?q=52.5058,6.0858&z=6 X-CanItPRO-Stream: uu:ntg-context@ntg.nl (inherits from uu:default, base:default) X-Canit-Stats-ID: 0RKmc7AiN - 2ddfb51ce84b - 20130907 (trained as not-spam) X-Scanned-By: CanIt (www . roaringpenguin . com) on 194.171.167.217 X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:84154 Archived-At: On 9/6/2013 10:20 PM, Thangalin wrote: > Hi, > > The best reader imho is iBooks on the iPad, nothing else, from what > I've seen, comes close. But that is one expensive eReader. :( > > > We'll just have everybody in the world who has a Kindle, Kobo, or other > reader exchange their existing hardware, and then purchase an iPad plus > iBook. Problem solved? ;-) > > ConTeXT TeX reading xml -> export -> optional transform -> EPUB + CSS* > you want 'direct epub html from context' (no xslt) but on the other > hand use xslt to map onto context while context can do xml directly > ... chicken egg > > > Well, given that ConTeXt doesn't actually produce validating EPUB > documents, I suspect not many people will actually use that feature. > It's great in theory, but if it produces books that don't actually work > on the Kindle or Kobo, then it's unusable in practice -- never mind not > being able to add the books to online marketplaces (such as Amazon) > because, again, the output does not validate. context doesn't produce epub (which at this moment is so floating that i would keep updating, which is fine if i'd use it myself or in projects at pragma, but not for the sake of keeping up) but does an export to xml (*.export) as a bonus it can output some extra stuff so that in a browser that can deal with xml+css (and a few xhtml tags for hyperlinks) we can preview then there is mtx-epub that can make an epub but that is a moving target (at some point we stopped extending waiting for a decent standard) so, i'd never claim that context produces epub but it can be used in a workflow that involves epub as it outputs xml which can be transformed supporting all variants of epub in the backend would be the same as hardcoding all kind of xml dts in the frontend (docbook, tei, whatever); instead we provide a general xml handler and a general xml export Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl ----------------------------------------------------------------- ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________