* columns
@ 2013-10-03 8:21 H. van der Meer
2013-10-03 9:09 ` columns Wolfgang Schuster
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I have some difficulties with columns inside a framedtext. The example below shows that columns does not work inside framedtext, whereas simplecolumns does. However, the latter does not show rules between the columns. Can I have both?
Is columns definitely not working here or is it temporarily until something is fixed? Or will simplecolumns be extended to show the rules?
% test columns within framedtext
\starttext
\startframedtext[width=\makeupwidth]
\startcolumns[n=2,rule=on,balance=yes]
\input tufte
\stopcolumns
\stopframedtext
\startframedtext[width=\makeupwidth]
\blank
\startsimplecolumns[n=2,rule=on,balance=yes]
\input tufte
\stopsimplecolumns
\stopframedtext
\stoptext
Hans van der Meer
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* Re: columns
2013-10-03 8:21 columns H. van der Meer
@ 2013-10-03 9:09 ` Wolfgang Schuster
2013-10-03 10:02 ` columns H. van der Meer
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Am 03.10.2013 um 10:21 schrieb H. van der Meer <H.vanderMeer@uva.nl>:
> I have some difficulties with columns inside a framedtext. The example below shows that columns does not work inside framedtext, whereas simplecolumns does. However, the latter does not show rules between the columns. Can I have both?
>
> Is columns definitely not working here or is it temporarily until something is fixed? Or will simplecolumns be extended to show the rules?
>
> % test columns within framedtext
> \starttext
> \startframedtext[width=\makeupwidth]
> \startcolumns[n=2,rule=on,balance=yes]
> \input tufte
> \stopcolumns
> \stopframedtext
> \startframedtext[width=\makeupwidth]
> \blank
> \startsimplecolumns[n=2,rule=on,balance=yes]
> \input tufte
> \stopsimplecolumns
> \stopframedtext
> \stoptext
The new mixedcolumns environment can be used to the typeset columns in a frame.
There is also a predefined bolxedcolumns environment which changes the width of
the columns when you use it in \startframed etc.
\setupalign[verytolerant]
\starttext
\startboxedcolumns[separator=rule]
\input tufte
\stopboxedcolumns
\startframedtext[width=max,align=verytolerant]
\startboxedcolumns[separator=rule]
\input tufte
\stopboxedcolumns
\stopframedtext
\stoptext
Wolfgang
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* Re: columns
2013-10-03 9:09 ` columns Wolfgang Schuster
@ 2013-10-03 10:02 ` H. van der Meer
2013-10-03 10:07 ` columns Wolfgang Schuster
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Thanks,
But I think mixedcolumns has to solve a problem width the width of the frametext. Whereas boxedcolumns honors the width of the enclosing framedtext, mixedcolumns does not. See the example.
% NOT OK WIDTH NOT RESPECTED
\startframedtext[width=.8\makeupwidth,align=verytolerant]
\startmixedcolumns[n=2,separator=rule,balance=yes]
\input tufte
\stopmixedcolumns
\stopframedtext
\blank
% OK
\startframedtext[width=.8\makeupwidth,align=verytolerant]
\startboxedcolumns[n=2,separator=rule,balance=yes]
\input tufte
\stopboxedcolumns
\stopframedtext
Hans van der Meer
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On 3 okt. 2013, at 11:09, Wolfgang Schuster <schuster.wolfgang@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Am 03.10.2013 um 10:21 schrieb H. van der Meer <H.vanderMeer@uva.nl>:
>
>> I have some difficulties with columns inside a framedtext. The example below shows that columns does not work inside framedtext, whereas simplecolumns does. However, the latter does not show rules between the columns. Can I have both?
>>
>> Is columns definitely not working here or is it temporarily until something is fixed? Or will simplecolumns be extended to show the rules?
>>
>> % test columns within framedtext
>> \starttext
>> \startframedtext[width=\makeupwidth]
>> \startcolumns[n=2,rule=on,balance=yes]
>> \input tufte
>> \stopcolumns
>> \stopframedtext
>> \startframedtext[width=\makeupwidth]
>> \blank
>> \startsimplecolumns[n=2,rule=on,balance=yes]
>> \input tufte
>> \stopsimplecolumns
>> \stopframedtext
>> \stoptext
>
> The new mixedcolumns environment can be used to the typeset columns in a frame.
>
> There is also a predefined bolxedcolumns environment which changes the width of
> the columns when you use it in \startframed etc.
>
> \setupalign[verytolerant]
>
> \starttext
>
> \startboxedcolumns[separator=rule]
> \input tufte
> \stopboxedcolumns
>
> \startframedtext[width=max,align=verytolerant]
> \startboxedcolumns[separator=rule]
> \input tufte
> \stopboxedcolumns
> \stopframedtext
>
> \stoptext
>
> Wolfgang
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* Re: columns
2013-10-03 10:02 ` columns H. van der Meer
@ 2013-10-03 10:07 ` Wolfgang Schuster
2013-10-03 10:26 ` columns H. van der Meer
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From: Wolfgang Schuster @ 2013-10-03 10:07 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Am 03.10.2013 um 12:02 schrieb "H. van der Meer" <H.vanderMeer@uva.nl>:
> Thanks,
>
> But I think mixedcolumns has to solve a problem width the width of the frametext. Whereas boxedcolumns honors the width of the enclosing framedtext, mixedcolumns does not. See the example.
Boxedcolumns are a instance of mixedcolumns and are defined as
\definemixedcolumns[boxedcolumns]
You can also use them this way:
\startmixedcolumns[boxedcolumns]
…
\stopmixedcolumns
Wolfgang
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* Re: columns
2013-10-03 10:07 ` columns Wolfgang Schuster
@ 2013-10-03 10:26 ` H. van der Meer
2013-10-03 10:35 ` columns Wolfgang Schuster
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If I remember well, framedtext sets a localhsize for the width of its content. I guess that is why boxedcolumns stays within the width specified. But is there a specific reason why mixedcolumns in general does not?
Hans van der Meer
On 3 okt. 2013, at 12:07, Wolfgang Schuster <schuster.wolfgang@gmail.com>
wrote:
>
> Am 03.10.2013 um 12:02 schrieb "H. van der Meer" <H.vanderMeer@uva.nl>:
>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> But I think mixedcolumns has to solve a problem width the width of the frametext. Whereas boxedcolumns honors the width of the enclosing framedtext, mixedcolumns does not. See the example.
>
> Boxedcolumns are a instance of mixedcolumns and are defined as
>
> \definemixedcolumns[boxedcolumns]
>
>
> You can also use them this way:
>
> \startmixedcolumns[boxedcolumns]
> …
> \stopmixedcolumns
>
>
> Wolfgang
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* Re: columns
2013-10-03 10:26 ` columns H. van der Meer
@ 2013-10-03 10:35 ` Wolfgang Schuster
2013-10-03 16:55 ` columns Hans Hagen
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From: Wolfgang Schuster @ 2013-10-03 10:35 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Am 03.10.2013 um 12:26 schrieb H. van der Meer <H.vanderMeer@uva.nl>:
> If I remember well, framedtext sets a localhsize for the width of its content. I guess that is why boxedcolumns stays within the width specified. But is there a specific reason why mixedcolumns in general does not?
The global settings for mixedcolumns are
\setupmixedcolumns
[maxwidth=\makeupwidth]
which forces columns to use the width of the textblock but boxedcolumns uses this
\definemixedcolumns
[boxedcolumns]
[maxwidth=\availablehsize]
where the width of the columns depends on the available width of the environment,
e.g. in a narrower environment or in a frame the you get shorter columns.
Wolfgang
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2013-10-03 10:35 ` columns Wolfgang Schuster
@ 2013-10-03 16:55 ` Hans Hagen
2013-10-03 20:12 ` columns luigi scarso
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From: Hans Hagen @ 2013-10-03 16:55 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On 10/3/2013 12:35 PM, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
>
> Am 03.10.2013 um 12:26 schrieb H. van der Meer <H.vanderMeer@uva.nl>:
>
>> If I remember well, framedtext sets a localhsize for the width of its content. I guess that is why boxedcolumns stays within the width specified. But is there a specific reason why mixedcolumns in general does not?
>
> The global settings for mixedcolumns are
>
> \setupmixedcolumns
> [maxwidth=\makeupwidth]
>
> which forces columns to use the width of the textblock but boxedcolumns uses this
>
> \definemixedcolumns
> [boxedcolumns]
> [maxwidth=\availablehsize]
>
> where the width of the columns depends on the available width of the environment,
> e.g. in a narrower environment or in a frame the you get shorter columns.
also, boxedcolumns, as the name says, are for use in boxes while by
default mixedcolumns (unless set up as boxed) are operating at the page
level (the so called mvl)
Hans
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2013-10-03 16:55 ` columns Hans Hagen
@ 2013-10-03 20:12 ` luigi scarso
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On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 6:55 PM, Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> wrote:
> On 10/3/2013 12:35 PM, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
>
>>
>> Am 03.10.2013 um 12:26 schrieb H. van der Meer <H.vanderMeer@uva.nl>:
>>
>> If I remember well, framedtext sets a localhsize for the width of its
>>> content. I guess that is why boxedcolumns stays within the width specified.
>>> But is there a specific reason why mixedcolumns in general does not?
>>>
>>
>> The global settings for mixedcolumns are
>>
>> \setupmixedcolumns
>> [maxwidth=\makeupwidth]
>>
>> which forces columns to use the width of the textblock but boxedcolumns
>> uses this
>>
>> \definemixedcolumns
>> [boxedcolumns]
>> [maxwidth=\availablehsize]
>>
>> where the width of the columns depends on the available width of the
>> environment,
>> e.g. in a narrower environment or in a frame the you get shorter columns.
>>
>
> also, boxedcolumns, as the name says, are for use in boxes while by
> default mixedcolumns (unless set up as boxed) are operating at the page
> level (the so called mvl)
>
> For the curious:
mvl is the main vertical list ,
see
books.google.com
"The advanced Texbook"
pag 295
--
luigi
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* columns
@ 2007-06-29 16:10 Patrick Gundlach
2007-06-29 17:13 ` columns Aditya Mahajan
2007-07-03 9:15 ` columns Patrick Gundlach
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From: Patrick Gundlach @ 2007-06-29 16:10 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Hi,
in \setupcolumns, what is ntop=<number> and height=<dimension>? I've
played with these parameters but couldn't see any effect.
Is it possible that align=yes/no is incorrect? See
http://source.contextgarden.net/tex/context/base/page-mul.tex?search=%40%40klalign
(search for @@klalign)
Patrick
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* Re: columns
2007-06-29 16:10 columns Patrick Gundlach
@ 2007-06-29 17:13 ` Aditya Mahajan
2007-06-29 17:39 ` columns Patrick Gundlach
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From: Aditya Mahajan @ 2007-06-29 17:13 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ntg-context
Quoting Patrick Gundlach <patrick@gundla.ch>:
> Hi,
>
> in \setupcolumns, what is ntop=<number>
From the source: the minimum number op balanced top lines
Consider
\starttext
\startcolumns[n=2,ntop=15,balance=yes]
\dorecurse{20}{This is a test line to check for balancing. }
\stopcolumns
\page
\startcolumns[n=2,ntop=5,balance=yes]
\dorecurse{20}{This is a test line to check for balancing. }
\stopcolumns
\stoptext
> and height=<dimension>? I've
> played with these parameters but couldn't see any effect.
I could not get any visible effect from height=...
>
> Is it possible that align=yes/no is incorrect? See
Dont't know.
Aditya
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2007-06-29 17:13 ` columns Aditya Mahajan
@ 2007-06-29 17:39 ` Patrick Gundlach
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From: Patrick Gundlach @ 2007-06-29 17:39 UTC (permalink / raw)
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[...]
>> in \setupcolumns, what is ntop=<number>
>
> From the source: the minimum number op balanced top lines
>
> Consider
> \starttext
> \startcolumns[n=2,ntop=15,balance=yes]
> \dorecurse{20}{This is a test line to check for balancing. }
> \stopcolumns
> \page
> \startcolumns[n=2,ntop=5,balance=yes]
> \dorecurse{20}{This is a test line to check for balancing. }
> \stopcolumns
> \stoptext
This seems to be a binary switch, right? no difference in your example
between ntop=15 and ntop=13.
Patrick
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2007-06-29 17:39 ` columns Patrick Gundlach
@ 2007-06-29 18:37 ` Aditya Mahajan
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From: Aditya Mahajan @ 2007-06-29 18:37 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ntg-context
Quoting Patrick Gundlach <patrick@gundla.ch>:
>
> [...]
>
>>> in \setupcolumns, what is ntop=<number>
>>
>> From the source: the minimum number op balanced top lines
>>
>> Consider
>> \starttext
>> \startcolumns[n=2,ntop=15,balance=yes]
>> \dorecurse{20}{This is a test line to check for balancing. }
>> \stopcolumns
>> \page
>> \startcolumns[n=2,ntop=5,balance=yes]
>> \dorecurse{20}{This is a test line to check for balancing. }
>> \stopcolumns
>> \stoptext
>
> This seems to be a binary switch, right? no difference in your example
> between ntop=15 and ntop=13.
Yes. The way I understand this is: if the number of lines in the column
after balancing are greater than ntop, do column balancing (if enabled)
otherwise not. For example,
\showgrid
\starttext
\dostepwiserecurse{5}{15}{1}{
\section{\recurselevel}
\startcolumns[n=2,ntop=\recurselevel,balance=yes]
\dorecurse{20}{This is a test line to check for balancing. }
\stopcolumns
\page}
\stoptext
Aditya
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* Re: columns
2007-06-29 16:10 columns Patrick Gundlach
2007-06-29 17:13 ` columns Aditya Mahajan
@ 2007-07-03 9:15 ` Patrick Gundlach
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From: Patrick Gundlach @ 2007-07-03 9:15 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ntg-context
Hi,
(repost - anybody got an idea on this question?)
> Is it possible that align=yes/no is incorrect? See
>
> http://source.contextgarden.net/tex/context/base/page-mul.tex?search=%40%40klalign
>
> (search for @@klalign)
\setupcolumns accept align=yes,no,text but the source seem to indicate
that only 'text' is allowed which will be passed to \setupalign -
which itself does not accept 'yes' or 'no'.
Any comments?
Patrick
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* The Context styles library.
@ 2003-04-14 19:08 John Culleton
2003-04-14 20:15 ` Patrick Gundlach
2003-04-17 13:43 ` Columns Sytse Knypstra
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From: John Culleton @ 2003-04-14 19:08 UTC (permalink / raw)
I am going through the Context styles library (colo-ini.tex and friends)
to figure out what the various files do. A portion of them come with
sample demo code and a smaller portion of the demos work on my system.
Am I reinventing the wheel? Is there a document somewhere that says:
``This is what these examples are all about''? I know that there are
comments at the head of each file but these can be a bit terse.
Not a priority question :-)
John Culleton
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* Re: The Context styles library.
2003-04-14 19:08 The Context styles library John Culleton
@ 2003-04-14 20:15 ` Patrick Gundlach
2003-04-17 12:06 ` Columns Sytse Knypstra
2003-04-17 13:43 ` Columns Sytse Knypstra
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From: Patrick Gundlach @ 2003-04-14 20:15 UTC (permalink / raw)
John Culleton <john@wexfordpress.com> writes:
Hello John,
> I am going through the Context styles library (colo-ini.tex and friends)
> to figure out what the various files do. A portion of them come with
> sample demo code and a smaller portion of the demos work on my system.
If you just want to see the demos in these files, copy a specific
file to a new directory and run `texexec --module --pdf colo-ini.tex'
(and others). You need the nl interface for those documented modules.
Patrick
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* Columns
2003-04-14 20:15 ` Patrick Gundlach
@ 2003-04-17 12:06 ` Sytse Knypstra
2003-04-17 12:28 ` Columns Patrick Gundlach
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From: Sytse Knypstra @ 2003-04-17 12:06 UTC (permalink / raw)
Hi,
I am using two columns, but the command \column which should force a
transition to the next column does not work.
Here is a small example (in dutch):
\steluitvoerin[pdftex]
\stelkolommenin[n=2]
\starttekst
\startkolommen
Tekst 1.
\kolom
Tekst 2.
Tekst 3.
\stopkolommen
\stoptekst
Regards,
Sytse Knypstra
S.Knypstra@eco.rug.nl
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* Re: Columns
2003-04-17 12:06 ` Columns Sytse Knypstra
@ 2003-04-17 12:28 ` Patrick Gundlach
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From: Patrick Gundlach @ 2003-04-17 12:28 UTC (permalink / raw)
Sytse Knypstra <S.Knypstra@eco.rug.nl> writes:
Hello,
> I am using two columns, but the command \column which should force a
> transition to the next column does not work.
> Here is a small example (in dutch):
[...example...]
that looks OK here:
Tekst 1. Tekst 2.
Tekst 3.
Isn't this what you want to get?
(ConTeXt ver: 2003.3.17 fmt: 2003.3.18 int: dutch mes: dutch)
Patrick
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* Re: Re: Columns
2003-04-17 12:28 ` Columns Patrick Gundlach
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@ 2003-04-17 13:43 ` Sytse Knypstra
2003-04-17 13:54 ` Columns Patrick Gundlach
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From: Sytse Knypstra @ 2003-04-17 13:43 UTC (permalink / raw)
At 4/17/2003 02:28, you wrote:
>Sytse Knypstra <S.Knypstra@eco.rug.nl> writes:
>
>Hello,
>
> > I am using two columns, but the command \column which should force a
> > transition to the next column does not work.
> > Here is a small example (in dutch):
>
>[...example...]
>
>
>
>that looks OK here:
>
>
>Tekst 1. Tekst 2.
> Tekst 3.
>
>
>
>Isn't this what you want to get?
>
>(ConTeXt ver: 2003.3.17 fmt: 2003.3.18 int: dutch mes: dutch)
Yes, that's what I would like to get, but in fact I get:
Tekst 1. Tekst 3.
Tekst 2.
And if I use: balance=no, I get:
Tekst 1.
Tekst 2.
Tekst 3.
>(ConTeXt ver: 2002.8.23 fmt: 2002.11.25 int: dutch mes: dutch)
Maybe there have been relevant changes since august last year?
Sytse
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* Re: Columns
2003-04-17 13:43 ` Columns Sytse Knypstra
@ 2003-04-17 13:54 ` Patrick Gundlach
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From: Patrick Gundlach @ 2003-04-17 13:54 UTC (permalink / raw)
Sytse Knypstra <S.Knypstra@eco.rug.nl> writes:
Hi,
>>(ConTeXt ver: 2002.8.23 fmt: 2002.11.25 int: dutch mes: dutch)
>
> Maybe there have been relevant changes since august last year?
You must be joking!
(Seriously; I have no idea what the changes were since last August;
you should really try a recent ConTeXt version.)
Patrick
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