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From: Zhichu Chen <zhichu.chen@gmail.com>
To: Wolfgang Schuster <schuster.wolfgang@gmail.com>,
	mailing list for ConTeXt users <ntg-context@ntg.nl>
Subject: Re: Simplefonts
Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2013 17:56:03 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <525A6E33.9040706@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7D24BFCF-3023-47A2-A243-582C49B7FA79@gmail.com>


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On 10/13/2013 01:39 AM, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
>
> Am 12.10.2013 um 15:04 schrieb Zhichu Chen <zhichu.chen@gmail.com 
> <mailto:zhichu.chen@gmail.com>>:
>
>> Hi Wolfgang,
>>
>> Good to know that, but I might have some questions.
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 11, 2013 at 2:02 AM, Wolfgang Schuster 
>> <wolfgang.schuster@gmail.com <mailto:wolfgang.schuster@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>>     Hi all,
>>
>>     \definefallbackfamily [mainface] [serif] [DejaVu Serif]
>>     [range=cyrillic,force=yes]
>>
>> What if I want to use the CJK font? The code in "font-sel.mkvi" hints 
>> I could use range=chinese but it didn't work. I have to use interval 
>> {0x00400-0x2FA1F} explicitly.
>
> When you take a look into char-def.lua you can see names certain 
> character ranges and “range=cyrillic”
> used such a name.
>
> For a chinese font you need 
> “range={cjkunifiedideographs,cjkunifiedideographsextensiona,…}".
> Because the list with names is very long you do this setup only once 
> with the \definefontfamilypreset
> command, e.g.
>
> \definefontfamilypreset[chinese][range={cjkunifiedideographs,cjkunifiedideographsextensiona,…}]
>
> and load this setup when you set the font with 
> \definefontfamilyfallback, e.g.
>
>   \definefontfamilyfallback[<typeface>][<style>][<font>][preset=chinese]
>
> For the moment I added three presets “chinese”, “japanese” and 
> “korean” but they need better
> names, e.g. “range:chinese” because there could be also 
> “features:chinese” etc.
I get it now. I can put range and features of the fallback fonts in the 
preset.
>
>> And how can I assign the boldfont, italicfont and bolditalicfont? I'm 
>> currently using the Adobe Song Std as the regular font but it didn't 
>> come with a bold version or else, hence I might need this feature.
>
> The module provides keys to apply a certain font and feature for each 
> alternative (upright, italic etc.)
> of a font, a complete list with all keys is shown in the table below.
>
> -------------------------------------------------------
> | Alternative | Font            | Feature             |
> |-----------------------------------------------------|
> | tf          | regularfont     | regularfeatures     |
> | it          | italicfont      | italicfeatures      |
> | sl          | slantedfont     | slantedfeatures     |
> | bf          | boldfont        | boldfeatures        |
> | bi          | bolditalicfont  | bolditalicfeatures  |
> | bs          | boldslantedfont | boldslantedfeatures |
> | sc          | smallcapsfont   | smallcapsfeatures   |
> -------------------------------------------------------
>
> The feature-keys expect the name from the \definefontfeature command, 
> when you don’t
> specify a feature to a certain alternative the value from the 
> “features” key is used.
>
> When you want to set a certain font for a alternative there are 
> different ways, I’m going
> to show the different ways with a few examples where I change the font 
> for italic.
Thanks for the descriptions. I have made a small test and turns out the 
"regularfont" has to be assigned to something or the other "xxxfont"s 
won't have any effects.

Here's my code:
=================================================
\definefallbackfamily [mainface] [serif] [adobesongstd]
   [range={0x00400-0x2FA1F}%
   ,regularfont=name:adobesongstdlight%
   ,italicfont=name:adobefangsongstdregular%
   ,boldfont=name:adobeheitistdregular%
   ,bolditalicfont=name:adobekaitistdregular%
   ,force=yes%
   ,features=song%
   ]
=================================================
and if I remove the "regularfont=..." line, the boldface Chinese 
characters will use the Adobe Song Std font as well. Same thing happened 
when I used the "preset=xxx" option which I don't know if it is intended 
to behave like that, by the way.

Oh, and off the topic, can I use "effect" to assign the fonts? Like if I 
have defined
=================================================
\defineeffect[mybold][alternative=both,rulethickness=\dimexpr\bodyfontsize/10\relax]
=================================================
I would like to use this effect to apply to my bold fonts, maybe:
=================================================
\setupfontfamily [serif] [DejaVu Serif] [boldfont=effect:mybold]
=================================================
I know this has nothing to do with this module. I just thought this 
might be interesting.
>
> 1. Use the filename of a font. With the “file:” prefix you can the 
> tell the module
> to look for a file with the given name, when the file isn’t found the 
> font from
> the tf-alternative is used. The file-method is also used when you omit 
> the prefix.
>
> \setupfontfamily [serif] [DejaVu Serif] [italicfont=file:dejavuserifbold]
>
> \starttext
> Regular and \it Italic
> \stoptext
>
> 2. Use a certain style. When you use the “style: ”prefix the module 
> looks for a certain
> style of the requested font.
>
> \setupfontfamily [serif] [DejaVu Serif] [italicfont=style:bolditalic]
>
> \starttext
> Regular and \it Italic
> \stoptext
>
> 3. Search for a font with a certain name. When you use the “name:” 
> prefix the module
> looks for a font with the requested name. Names are internal values of 
> a font which
> is sometimes the same as the filename.
>
> \setupfontfamily [serif] [DejaVu Serif] [italicfont=name:dejavuserifbold]
>
> \starttext
> Regular and \it Italic
> \stoptext
>
> 4. Use the spec information. When you use the “spec:” prefix you can 
> request a font
> with a certain “weight” (bold or normal), “style” (italic or normal) 
> and variant (smallcaps or normal).
>
> \setupfontfamily [serif] [DejaVu Serif] [italicfont=spec:bold-italic]
>
> \starttext
> Regular and \it Italic
> \stoptext
>
>
> There is a possibility that I change the way to set font and features 
> for alternatives
> in the feature to a way which is more compact and easier to parse in Lua.
>
> Wolfgang


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  reply	other threads:[~2013-10-13  9:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 73+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-10-10 18:02 Simplefonts Wolfgang Schuster
2013-10-12 13:04 ` Simplefonts Zhichu Chen
2013-10-12 17:39   ` Simplefonts Wolfgang Schuster
2013-10-13  9:56     ` Zhichu Chen [this message]
2013-10-13 11:12       ` Simplefonts Wolfgang Schuster
2013-10-18 16:18     ` Simplefonts Wolfgang Schuster
2013-10-14 15:17 ` Simplefonts Lars Huttar
2013-10-14 16:45   ` Simplefonts Hans Hagen
2013-10-14 16:38 ` Simplefonts Prashanth
2013-10-14 17:38   ` Simplefonts Wolfgang Schuster
2013-10-15  8:02     ` Simplefonts Otared Kavian
2013-10-15  8:26       ` Simplefonts Hans Hagen
2013-10-15  8:41         ` Simplefonts Mikael P. Sundqvist
2013-10-15  9:12           ` Simplefonts Hans Hagen
2013-10-15 19:12             ` Simplefonts Marcin Borkowski
2013-10-15 19:17               ` Simplefonts Wolfgang Schuster
2013-10-15 20:00                 ` Simplefonts Marcin Borkowski
2013-10-15 20:58               ` Simplefonts Hans Hagen
2013-10-15  9:26           ` Simplefonts Hans Hagen
2013-10-15  9:57             ` Simplefonts Hans Hagen
2013-10-15 11:42         ` Simplefonts Keith J. Schultz
2013-10-15 17:08           ` Simplefonts Wolfgang Schuster
2013-10-16  7:47             ` Simplefonts Keith J. Schultz
2013-10-15 17:41         ` Simplefonts Otared Kavian
2013-10-15 12:18     ` Simplefonts Prashanth
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2014-05-21  3:32 SimpleFonts hwitloc
2014-05-21  4:41 ` SimpleFonts Mikael P. Sundqvist
     [not found] <mailman.1.1382176801.27687.ntg-context@ntg.nl>
2013-10-19 12:21 ` Simplefonts John Kitzmiller
2013-10-19 18:20   ` Simplefonts Wolfgang Schuster
2011-03-11 12:28 Simplefonts Charles Doherty
2011-03-11 18:30 ` Simplefonts Wolfgang Schuster
2011-03-14 11:55   ` Simplefonts Charles Doherty
2011-02-21 16:38 Simplefonts Charles Doherty
2010-11-13 18:25 simplefonts Herbert Voss
2010-11-13 18:32 ` simplefonts Aditya Mahajan
2010-11-13 18:37   ` simplefonts Herbert Voss
2010-11-13 18:47     ` simplefonts Khaled Hosny
2010-11-13 18:44 ` simplefonts Wolfgang Schuster
2010-11-13 19:16   ` simplefonts Herbert Voss
2010-03-15  2:48 simplefonts Michael Saunders
2010-03-14 13:12 simplefonts Michael Saunders
2010-03-14 13:54 ` simplefonts Henning Hraban Ramm
2010-03-14 13:59 ` simplefonts Hans Hagen
2010-03-13 16:09 simplefonts Michael Saunders
2010-03-13 16:36 ` simplefonts Wolfgang Schuster
2010-03-13 20:13 ` simplefonts Thomas A. Schmitz
2010-03-12 19:11 simplefonts Michael Saunders
2010-03-12 19:24 ` simplefonts Aditya Mahajan
2010-03-12 19:32 ` simplefonts Hans Hagen
2010-03-12 20:11 ` simplefonts Thomas A. Schmitz
2010-03-12 20:17   ` simplefonts Wolfgang Schuster
2010-03-12 20:31   ` simplefonts Andreas Harder
2010-03-12 20:38   ` simplefonts Wolfgang Schuster
2010-03-12 22:29     ` simplefonts Hans Hagen
2010-03-13  5:35       ` simplefonts Wolfgang Schuster
2010-03-13  6:19         ` simplefonts Khaled Hosny
2010-03-13 12:16           ` simplefonts Hans Hagen
2010-03-13 12:26             ` simplefonts Wolfgang Schuster
2010-03-13 12:35               ` simplefonts Hans Hagen
2010-03-13 13:27               ` simplefonts Andreas Harder
2010-03-13 16:17                 ` simplefonts Wolfgang Schuster
2010-03-13 16:59                   ` simplefonts Andreas Harder
2010-03-13 17:29                     ` simplefonts Wolfgang Schuster
2010-03-12 10:05 simplefonts Michael Saunders
2010-03-12 12:45 ` simplefonts Wolfgang Schuster
2010-03-12  4:50 simplefonts Michael Saunders
2010-03-12  5:36 ` simplefonts Wolfgang Schuster
     [not found] <mailman.580.1258822015.22155.ntg-context@ntg.nl>
2009-11-21 21:33 ` simplefonts Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky
2009-11-22 12:24   ` simplefonts Wolfgang Schuster
2009-11-22 13:10     ` simplefonts Alan BRASLAU
2009-11-22 13:13       ` simplefonts Wolfgang Schuster
2009-11-22 13:16       ` simplefonts Alan BRASLAU
2009-09-14 11:06 simplefonts Wolfgang Schuster

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