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* bug in multiple layouts?
@ 2013-10-18 15:37 Pablo Rodriguez
  2013-10-18 18:30 ` Wolfgang Schuster
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From: Pablo Rodriguez @ 2013-10-18 15:37 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Dear list,

I have a sample with multiple layouts:

\showframe
\setuppagenumbering[alternative=doublesided, location=]
\setuplayout[margin=20mm, width=fit, topspace=45mm, bottomspace=25mm,
height=fit]
\definelayout[shorter][backspace=80mm, cutspace=20mm, topspace=110mm,
bottomspace=30mm]
\setuplayout[shorter]
\setuplayout[reset]
\definelayout[1][shorter]
\definelayout[2-last][reset]
\starttext
\dorecurse{20}{\input knuth\par}
\stoptext

I found two issues: the first lines on the second page have the margin
from previous page, and from the third page text doesn’t reach the page
bottom.

Am I missing something or have I found a bug?

Many thanks for your help,


Pablo
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* Re: bug in multiple layouts?
  2013-10-18 15:37 bug in multiple layouts? Pablo Rodriguez
@ 2013-10-18 18:30 ` Wolfgang Schuster
  2013-10-18 22:24   ` Pablo Rodriguez
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 3+ messages in thread
From: Wolfgang Schuster @ 2013-10-18 18:30 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Am 18.10.2013 um 17:37 schrieb Pablo Rodriguez <oinos@gmx.es>:

> Dear list,
> 
> I have a sample with multiple layouts:
> 
> \showframe
> \setuppagenumbering[alternative=doublesided, location=]
> \setuplayout[margin=20mm, width=fit, topspace=45mm, bottomspace=25mm,
> height=fit]
> \definelayout[shorter][backspace=80mm, cutspace=20mm, topspace=110mm,
> bottomspace=30mm]
> \setuplayout[shorter]
> \setuplayout[reset]
> \definelayout[1][shorter]
> \definelayout[2-last][reset]
> \starttext
> \dorecurse{20}{\input knuth\par}
> \stoptext
> 
> I found two issues: the first lines on the second page have the margin
> from previous page, and from the third page text doesn’t reach the page
> bottom.
> 
> Am I missing something or have I found a bug?

1. reset is a keyword for \setuplayout (single argument version) and not a name for a predefined layout

2. You can’t define layouts for page ranges (e.g. 2-last), only page numbers (e.g. 2,5, or -3), names (e.g. mylayout) and keywords (e.g. first, last, odd and even) are possible.

3. The width of a paragraph is fixed and tex doesn’t changed the width of the part which is moved to the next page (there are a fix tricks to work around this limitation but they work only when you have a text only document).

4. TeX has its limitations and you have to live with them, with LuaTeX there are ways to get rid of a few of them but it takes time to write the necessary code

Wolfgang
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* Re: bug in multiple layouts?
  2013-10-18 18:30 ` Wolfgang Schuster
@ 2013-10-18 22:24   ` Pablo Rodriguez
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From: Pablo Rodriguez @ 2013-10-18 22:24 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On 10/18/2013 08:30 PM, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
>> [...]
>> I found two issues: the first lines on the second page have the margin
>> from previous page, and from the third page text doesn’t reach the page
>> bottom.
>>
>> Am I missing something or have I found a bug?
> 
> 1. reset is a keyword for \setuplayout (single argument version) and
> not a name for a predefined layout
> 
> 2. You can’t define layouts for page ranges (e.g. 2-last), only page
> numbers (e.g. 2,5, or -3), names (e.g. mylayout) and keywords (e.g.
> first, last, odd and even) are possible.

Many thanks for your reply, Wolfgang.

I want to have a different top and bottom space only for the first page.
From I what I understand, here is a new sample (that doesn’t work):

\showframe
\setuppagenumbering[alternative=doublesided, location=]
\setuplayout[margin=20mm, width=fit, topspace=45mm, bottomspace=25mm,
height=fit]
\definelayout[first][topspace=110mm, bottomspace=30mm]
\starttext
\dorecurse{20}{\input knuth\par}
\stoptext

I define a the standard layout, a layout for the first page, but I don’t
know why the text doesn’t fill the full text area in pages other than
the first.

> 3. The width of a paragraph is fixed and tex doesn’t changed the
> width of the part which is moved to the next page (there are a fix tricks to
> work around this limitation but they work only when you have a text 
> only document).
> 
> 4. TeX has its limitations and you have to live with them, with
> LuaTeX there are ways to get rid of a few of them but it takes time
> to write the necessary code

As a workaround: is it possible that the text flow avoids layers as if
it were floats?

What I mean is that in the following sample the text flow avoids the
rectangle:

\definelayer[avoidasfloat][x=0mm, y=0mm, hoffset=8mm, voffset=101mm,
location={right,bottom}, state=start]
\setlayer[avoidasfloat]{\startMPcode
draw (0mm,0mm)--(55mm,0mm) ;
draw (0mm,0mm)--(0mm,-86mm) ;
draw (0mm,-86mm)--(55mm,-86mm) ;
draw (55mm,-86mm)--(55mm,0mm) ;
\stopMPcode
}
\setupbackgrounds[page][background={avoidasfloat}]
\starttext
\dorecurse{4}{\input knuth\par}
\stoptext

How could this be done?

Many thanks for your help,


Pablo
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http://www.ousia.tk
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