* tnum and aligncharacter=yes
@ 2013-10-20 22:44 Peter Münster
2013-10-20 22:55 ` Hans Hagen
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From: Peter Münster @ 2013-10-20 22:44 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Hi,
aligncharacter=yes does not work with \addfeature[with-tnum]:
--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
\definefontfeature[with-tnum][default][tnum=yes]
\definefontfamily[mainface][sans][Alwyn New]
\setupbodyfont[mainface]
\setupTABLE[alignmentcharacter=., aligncharacter=yes]
\starttext
\startbuffer
\bTABLE \bTR \bTD 111.111 \eTD \eTR \bTR \bTD 444.444 \eTD \eTR \eTABLE
\stopbuffer
\getbuffer\addfeature[with-tnum]\getbuffer
\stoptext
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---
Please find attached the pdf file.
How could I solve this problem please?
TIA for any hints,
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* Re: tnum and aligncharacter=yes
2013-10-20 22:44 tnum and aligncharacter=yes Peter Münster
@ 2013-10-20 22:55 ` Hans Hagen
2013-10-20 23:04 ` Wolfgang Schuster
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From: Hans Hagen @ 2013-10-20 22:55 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ntg-context
On 10/21/2013 7:44 AM, Peter Münster wrote:
> Hi,
>
> aligncharacter=yes does not work with \addfeature[with-tnum]:
>
> --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
> \definefontfeature[with-tnum][default][tnum=yes]
> \definefontfamily[mainface][sans][Alwyn New]
> \setupbodyfont[mainface]
> \setupTABLE[alignmentcharacter=., aligncharacter=yes]
> \starttext
> \startbuffer
> \bTABLE \bTR \bTD 111.111 \eTD \eTR \bTR \bTD 444.444 \eTD \eTR \eTABLE
> \stopbuffer
> \getbuffer\addfeature[with-tnum]\getbuffer
> \stoptext
> --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---
>
> Please find attached the pdf file.
>
> How could I solve this problem please?
when making examples, use fonts that are available ... (as I have no
time to find a variant on my system that has a similar problem as the
font used by you)
Hans
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* Re: tnum and aligncharacter=yes
2013-10-20 22:55 ` Hans Hagen
@ 2013-10-20 23:04 ` Wolfgang Schuster
2013-10-21 12:13 ` Hans Hagen
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From: Wolfgang Schuster @ 2013-10-20 23:04 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Am 21.10.2013 um 00:55 schrieb Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl>:
> On 10/21/2013 7:44 AM, Peter Münster wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> aligncharacter=yes does not work with \addfeature[with-tnum]:
>>
>> --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
>> \definefontfeature[with-tnum][default][tnum=yes]
>> \definefontfamily[mainface][sans][Alwyn New]
>> \setupbodyfont[mainface]
>> \setupTABLE[alignmentcharacter=., aligncharacter=yes]
>> \starttext
>> \startbuffer
>> \bTABLE \bTR \bTD 111.111 \eTD \eTR \bTR \bTD 444.444 \eTD \eTR \eTABLE
>> \stopbuffer
>> \getbuffer\addfeature[with-tnum]\getbuffer
>> \stoptext
>> --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---
>>
>> Please find attached the pdf file.
>>
>> How could I solve this problem please?
>
> when making examples, use fonts that are available ... (as I have no time to find a variant on my system that has a similar problem as the font used by you)
You can use Constantia for the example.
\definefontfeature[tnum][tnum=yes]
\definefontfamily[mainface][sans][Constantia]
\setupbodyfont[mainface]
\startbuffer
\bTABLE[alignmentcharacter=., aligncharacter=yes]
\bTR
\bTD 111.111 \eTD
\eTR
\bTR
\bTD 444.444 \eTD
\eTR
\eTABLE
\stopbuffer
\starttext
\getbuffer
\feature[+][tnum]
\getbuffer
\stoptext
Wolfgang
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* Re: tnum and aligncharacter=yes
2013-10-20 23:04 ` Wolfgang Schuster
@ 2013-10-21 12:13 ` Hans Hagen
2013-10-21 13:03 ` Peter Münster
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From: Hans Hagen @ 2013-10-21 12:13 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ntg-context
On 10/21/2013 8:04 AM, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
>
> Am 21.10.2013 um 00:55 schrieb Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl>:
>
>> On 10/21/2013 7:44 AM, Peter Münster wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> aligncharacter=yes does not work with \addfeature[with-tnum]:
>>>
>>> --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
>>> \definefontfeature[with-tnum][default][tnum=yes]
>>> \definefontfamily[mainface][sans][Alwyn New]
>>> \setupbodyfont[mainface]
>>> \setupTABLE[alignmentcharacter=., aligncharacter=yes]
>>> \starttext
>>> \startbuffer
>>> \bTABLE \bTR \bTD 111.111 \eTD \eTR \bTR \bTD 444.444 \eTD \eTR \eTABLE
>>> \stopbuffer
>>> \getbuffer\addfeature[with-tnum]\getbuffer
>>> \stoptext
>>> --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---
>>>
>>> Please find attached the pdf file.
>>>
>>> How could I solve this problem please?
% \setupbodyfont[pagella]
\definefontfeature[oldstylenumbers][onum=yes]
\definefontfeature[inlinenumbers] [lnum=yes,tnum=no]
\definefontfeature[tabularnumbers] [tnum=yes,lnum=no]
\definefontfamily[mainface][sans][Constantia]
\setupbodyfont[mainface]
\starttext
\setupTABLE
[alignmentcharacter=.,
aligncharacter=yes]
\startbuffer
\bTABLE
\bTR \bTD 11.111 \eTD \eTR
\bTR \bTD 2.2 \eTD \eTR
\bTR \bTD 444.444 \eTD \eTR
\eTABLE
\par
1234567890\par
0000000000\par
1111111111\par
4444444444
\blank
\stopbuffer
\start
inlinenumbers:\crlf
\addfeature[inlinenumbers]
\getbuffer
\stop
\start
tabularnumbers:\crlf
\addfeature[tabularnumbers]
\getbuffer
\stop
\start
oldstylenumbers:\crlf
\addfeature[oldstylenumbers]
\getbuffer
\stop
\start
oldstylenumbers + inlinenumbers:\crlf
\addfeature[oldstylenumbers]
\addfeature[inlinenumbers]
\getbuffer
\stop
\start
oldstylenumbers + tabularnumbers:\crlf
\addfeature[oldstylenumbers]
\addfeature[tabularnumbers]
\getbuffer
\stop
\stoptext
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* Re: tnum and aligncharacter=yes
2013-10-21 12:13 ` Hans Hagen
@ 2013-10-21 13:03 ` Peter Münster
2013-10-21 23:47 ` Hans Hagen
2013-10-21 23:55 ` Hans Hagen
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From: Peter Münster @ 2013-10-21 13:03 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On Mon, Oct 21 2013, Hans Hagen wrote:
>>>> How could I solve this problem please?
>
> \definefontfeature[oldstylenumbers][onum=yes]
> \definefontfeature[inlinenumbers] [lnum=yes,tnum=no]
> \definefontfeature[tabularnumbers] [tnum=yes,lnum=no]
>
> \definefontfamily[mainface][sans][Constantia]
> \setupbodyfont[mainface]
>
> [...]
Hi Hans,
Does your answer mean, that you cannot reproduce the problem?
I've tried with Constantia, and I get the same horizontal shift as in my
previous example PDF file. My ConTeXt version is 2013.10.20 07:09
I attach a new PDF file with Constantia (from my Windows-XP installation).
Is there a problem with my fonts?
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* Re: tnum and aligncharacter=yes
2013-10-21 13:03 ` Peter Münster
@ 2013-10-21 23:47 ` Hans Hagen
2013-10-22 4:57 ` Peter Münster
2013-10-21 23:55 ` Hans Hagen
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From: Hans Hagen @ 2013-10-21 23:47 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ntg-context
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On 10/21/2013 10:03 PM, Peter Münster wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 21 2013, Hans Hagen wrote:
>
>>>>> How could I solve this problem please?
>>
>> \definefontfeature[oldstylenumbers][onum=yes]
>> \definefontfeature[inlinenumbers] [lnum=yes,tnum=no]
>> \definefontfeature[tabularnumbers] [tnum=yes,lnum=no]
>>
>> \definefontfamily[mainface][sans][Constantia]
>> \setupbodyfont[mainface]
>>
>> [...]
>
> Hi Hans,
>
> Does your answer mean, that you cannot reproduce the problem?
> I've tried with Constantia, and I get the same horizontal shift as in my
> previous example PDF file. My ConTeXt version is 2013.10.20 07:09
>
> I attach a new PDF file with Constantia (from my Windows-XP installation).
this is what i get
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* Re: tnum and aligncharacter=yes
2013-10-21 13:03 ` Peter Münster
2013-10-21 23:47 ` Hans Hagen
@ 2013-10-21 23:55 ` Hans Hagen
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From: Hans Hagen @ 2013-10-21 23:55 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ntg-context
On 10/21/2013 10:03 PM, Peter Münster wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 21 2013, Hans Hagen wrote:
>
>>>>> How could I solve this problem please?
>>
>> \definefontfeature[oldstylenumbers][onum=yes]
>> \definefontfeature[inlinenumbers] [lnum=yes,tnum=no]
>> \definefontfeature[tabularnumbers] [tnum=yes,lnum=no]
>>
>> \definefontfamily[mainface][sans][Constantia]
>> \setupbodyfont[mainface]
>>
>> [...]
>
> Hi Hans,
>
> Does your answer mean, that you cannot reproduce the problem?
> I've tried with Constantia, and I get the same horizontal shift as in my
> previous example PDF file. My ConTeXt version is 2013.10.20 07:09
>
> I attach a new PDF file with Constantia (from my Windows-XP installation).
>
> Is there a problem with my fonts?
this kind of mechanimns assume equal width digits so we might need to
force lnum
Hans
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* Re: tnum and aligncharacter=yes
2013-10-21 23:47 ` Hans Hagen
@ 2013-10-22 4:57 ` Peter Münster
2013-11-04 22:14 ` Peter Münster
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From: Peter Münster @ 2013-10-22 4:57 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On Tue, Oct 22 2013, Hans Hagen wrote:
> this is what i get
Ok, but you use LM instead of Constantia...
pdffonts oeps.pdf :
name type encoding emb sub uni object ID
------------------------------------ ----------------- ---------------- --- --- --- ---------
KQRURB+LMSans10-Regular CID Type 0C Identity-H yes yes yes 18 0
pdffonts test.pdf :
name type encoding emb sub uni object ID
------------------------------------ ----------------- ---------------- --- --- --- ---------
CZUMAG+Constantia CID TrueType Identity-H yes yes yes 18 0
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* Re: tnum and aligncharacter=yes
2013-10-22 4:57 ` Peter Münster
@ 2013-11-04 22:14 ` Peter Münster
2013-11-05 12:17 ` Hans Hagen
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From: Peter Münster @ 2013-11-04 22:14 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Hi Hans,
Any news about this issue? Can it be solved? Should I add it to the
tracker?
TIA for any hints,
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* Re: tnum and aligncharacter=yes
2013-11-04 22:14 ` Peter Münster
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From: Hans Hagen @ 2013-11-05 12:17 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On 11/4/2013 11:14 PM, Peter Münster wrote:
> Any news about this issue? Can it be solved? Should I add it to the
> tracker?
That was already solved a while ago, driven by:
% \enabletrackers[typesetters.characteralign.autofont]
which is enabled by default. It's about the most I can do about it.
Hans
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* Re: tnum and aligncharacter=yes
2013-11-05 12:17 ` Hans Hagen
@ 2013-11-05 20:56 ` Peter Münster
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From: Peter Münster @ 2013-11-05 20:56 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On Tue, Nov 05 2013, Hans Hagen wrote:
> That was already solved a while ago, driven by:
>
> % \enabletrackers[typesetters.characteralign.autofont]
>
> which is enabled by default. It's about the most I can do about it.
Hi Hans,
I'm sure, that you can do much better, because there was no such problem
about one year ago. Please find here a test file, the font, and the
outputs for versions 2012.12.10 and 2013.11.05:
http://pmrb.free.fr/tmp/context-tnum/
TIA for any further help,
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* Re: tnum and aligncharacter=yes
2013-11-05 20:56 ` Peter Münster
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From: Hans Hagen @ 2013-11-06 11:17 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On 11/5/2013 9:56 PM, Peter Münster wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 05 2013, Hans Hagen wrote:
>
>> That was already solved a while ago, driven by:
>>
>> % \enabletrackers[typesetters.characteralign.autofont]
>>
>> which is enabled by default. It's about the most I can do about it.
>
> Hi Hans,
>
> I'm sure, that you can do much better, because there was no such problem
> about one year ago. Please find here a test file, the font, and the
> outputs for versions 2012.12.10 and 2013.11.05:
>
> http://pmrb.free.fr/tmp/context-tnum/
>
> TIA for any further help,
One year ago we used a different method (less robust). The current
mechanism assumes equal width digits but nevertheless forces
[tnum=yes,lnum=no] so if you get weird widths it's a font issue and you
nee to make sure that somehow you force it to use equal width digits.
(Some fonts do weird things with oldstyle for instance).
Hans
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2013-11-06 11:17 ` Hans Hagen
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From: Peter Münster @ 2013-11-06 23:07 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On Wed, Nov 06 2013, Hans Hagen wrote:
> One year ago we used a different method (less robust). The current mechanism
> assumes equal width digits but nevertheless forces [tnum=yes,lnum=no] so if
> you get weird widths it's a font issue and you nee to make sure that somehow
> you force it to use equal width digits.
Unfortunately I don't know how to do that... :(
Does it mean, that the only solution is to use an older ConTeXt version?
Or is there perhaps another work-around?
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* Re: tnum and aligncharacter=yes
2013-11-06 23:07 ` Peter Münster
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From: Hans Hagen @ 2013-11-08 11:49 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On 11/7/2013 12:07 AM, Peter Münster wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 06 2013, Hans Hagen wrote:
>
>> One year ago we used a different method (less robust). The current mechanism
>> assumes equal width digits but nevertheless forces [tnum=yes,lnum=no] so if
>> you get weird widths it's a font issue and you nee to make sure that somehow
>> you force it to use equal width digits.
>
> Unfortunately I don't know how to do that... :(
>
> Does it mean, that the only solution is to use an older ConTeXt version?
> Or is there perhaps another work-around?
it's unfortunate that this font defaults to oldstyle (which makes one
wonder what the onum feature in it is supposed to do)
i now changed the place where the align kicks in, which of course will
have other side effects (one being less robust)
Hans
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2013-11-08 11:49 ` Hans Hagen
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From: Peter Münster @ 2013-11-08 12:09 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On Fri, Nov 08 2013, Hans Hagen wrote:
> i now changed the place where the align kicks in, which of course will have
> other side effects (one being less robust)
Hi Hans,
Thanks for your efforts, the alignment works now as expected!
You're right, there are side effects, the first digits are blue:
http://pmrb.free.fr/tmp/context-tnum/constantia-tnum-2013-11-08.pdf
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