From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/85266 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Huttar Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: how to reduce \lineskiplimit in ConTeXt grid layout Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2013 15:49:49 -0500 Message-ID: <528688ED.8000105@sil.org> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1384548594 8738 80.91.229.3 (15 Nov 2013 20:49:54 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2013 20:49:54 +0000 (UTC) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Fri Nov 15 21:50:00 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([5.39.185.229]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VhQL2-0008VN-Nq for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Fri, 15 Nov 2013 21:50:00 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD45B101E5; Fri, 15 Nov 2013 21:49:59 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at balder.ntg.nl Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (balder.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id x19FT5VPG1Yx; Fri, 15 Nov 2013 21:49:58 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFDF7101FB; Fri, 15 Nov 2013 21:49:57 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19D2E101FB for ; Fri, 15 Nov 2013 21:49:56 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at balder.ntg.nl Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (balder.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 2pUPFISzxCxd for ; Fri, 15 Nov 2013 21:49:54 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from filter3-utr.mf.surf.net (filter3-utr.mf.surf.net [195.169.124.154]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA4F5101E5 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 2013 21:49:54 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from mail-yh0-f50.google.com (mail-yh0-f50.google.com [209.85.213.50]) by filter3-utr.mf.surf.net (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-9.4) with ESMTP id rAFKnpPF021267 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT) for ; Fri, 15 Nov 2013 21:49:53 +0100 Original-Received: by mail-yh0-f50.google.com with SMTP id b12so2070524yha.23 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 2013 12:49:50 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to :subject:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=0UR3rI+/iJ96xxTXt3jRYAJZD8MaX6FzXA1DhZlYYgg=; b=BXBNdD4gJVgsj1WzbUpqcS4Zd4fAusgsNREebAYrgwxhZAKDpxo2QLMxuO0hLlTyNh VcUSqg4YHdcdk8xVPa/Sq+JHHeAcoZhVTZSStgLAGthZgkJxrVWLhShcKtHr5dzXkQ9F +cK6Myvb1gi4nfvLfRTP5ZWdROpCL7Bh7xZgmC6wttaMMUQEeRmPI0+g7H18u/oyBDD8 pYWykRw6fNHKZMng+JxEKyfKYhMAWCnd9LM0rCa/zj8fpACY/CvM1e00cxNbuO7Ixs+D U0ARfmJgYTTMFBhNB5MLsqOL7ULOmWtwhX+XBhcsJ9zNzXrdJnZj1V4SiBS0HUbie/Nd CtoQ== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQnKcyDgLFEN5ulLl3lAK5dkyPfglVrro8X8zImRW+C43lILJOz5q8bZG/aScbkn7HuVV6LF X-Received: by 10.236.88.177 with SMTP id a37mr1161012yhf.161.1384548590716; Fri, 15 Nov 2013 12:49:50 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from [172.22.10.212] ([162.40.29.3]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id m29sm5663543yho.14.2013.11.15.12.49.49 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 15 Nov 2013 12:49:50 -0800 (PST) User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.1.0 X-Bayes-Prob: 0.0001 (Score 0, tokens from: @@RPTN) X-CanIt-Geo: ip=209.85.213.50; country=US; region=CA; city=Mountain View; postalcode=94043; latitude=37.4192; longitude=-122.0574; metrocode=807; areacode=650; http://maps.google.com/maps?q=37.4192,-122.0574&z=6 X-CanItPRO-Stream: uu:ntg-context@ntg.nl (inherits from uu:default, base:default) X-Canit-Stats-ID: 08KNUNQaF - 7740f8e757b1 - 20131115 (trained as not-spam) X-Scanned-By: CanIt (www . roaringpenguin . com) on 195.169.124.154 X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:85266 Archived-At: As you know, in plain TeX, \lineskiplimit tunes the vertical glue algorithm by specifying the minimum amount of space between the bottom edge of one line and the top edge of the following line. But in ConTeXt, it appears that \lineskiplimit is set to zero, at least in grid mode. We're using grid mode, and we have some occasional high ascenders, e.g. capital letters with diacritics on top. We have bodyfont size 8.1pt, and interlinespace = 9.3pt. We realize this is less than the recommended ratio of 1.2. Understandably, when those tall characters occur, we sometimes get a blank line above them. It looks like the \lineskiplimit would be violated if the 9.3pt interlinespace were enforced, so ConTeXt adds some space (analogous to \lineskip in TeX?). But since we're on a grid, more space has to be added in order to conform to the grid. All that makes sense, but we would like to be able typeset the lines closer together, and judge for ourselves whether it looks too bad. (When we used to typeset the same text at 8.1pt/9.3pt using mkii, blank lines did not occur.) Is there something similar to \lineskiplimit that we can tweak? I've been reading section 5.5 Line Spacing in the context ref manual, but I don't see anything there about changing a threshold analogous to \lineskiplimit. I tried setting \lineskiplimit=-2pt, but that caused a worse problem: a blank line across both columns, instead of just one. Thanks, Lars Version: mkiv luatex in Tex Live 2013. ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________