From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/85350 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Bill Meahan Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: EPUB woes Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2013 13:11:12 -0500 Message-ID: <528CFB40.2030100@meahan.net> References: <52878C67.90007@meahan.net> <5287A29B.6010302@meahan.net> <528A063A.10203@wxs.nl> <63EC0C6C-1DBA-4CE4-84E5-66347AF42417@uni-trier.de> <528A3350.7040306@wxs.nl> <971C0359-183E-490F-B693-EA2801FE9126@uni-trier.de> <6062EC24-1DF7-4727-84E2-1FFAE5FCE1E4@uni-trier.de> Reply-To: lists@meahan.net, mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1384971081 28118 80.91.229.3 (20 Nov 2013 18:11:21 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2013 18:11:21 +0000 (UTC) To: ntg-context@ntg.nl Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Wed Nov 20 19:11:27 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([5.39.185.229]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VjCFL-0007Lb-62 for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Wed, 20 Nov 2013 19:11:27 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0552D10200; Wed, 20 Nov 2013 19:11:26 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at balder.ntg.nl Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (balder.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id cDAB7Hj0cr1e; Wed, 20 Nov 2013 19:11:24 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11756101F0; Wed, 20 Nov 2013 19:11:24 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3478A101F0 for ; Wed, 20 Nov 2013 19:11:22 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at balder.ntg.nl Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (balder.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id kWbx76krkq9M for ; Wed, 20 Nov 2013 19:11:20 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from filter2-utr.mf.surf.net (filter2-utr.mf.surf.net [195.169.124.153]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49C92101EA for ; Wed, 20 Nov 2013 19:11:17 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from mail16c40.carrierzone.com (mail16c40.carrierzone.com [209.235.156.156]) by filter2-utr.mf.surf.net (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-9.4) with ESMTP id rAKIFr6E027467 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Wed, 20 Nov 2013 19:15:56 +0100 X-Authenticated-User: subscribed_lists.meahan.net Original-Received: from [192.168.1.114] (d27-96-221-12.nap.wideopenwest.com [96.27.12.221]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail16c40.carrierzone.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with ESMTP id rAKIB8gG026544 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 20 Nov 2013 18:11:10 +0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.1.0 In-Reply-To: X-CTCH-RefID: str=0001.0A020206.528CFB3E.021E, ss=1, re=0.100, recu=0.000, reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0 X-CTCH-VOD: Unknown X-CTCH-Spam: Unknown X-CTCH-Score: 0.100 X-CTCH-Rules: X-CTCH-Flags: 0 X-CTCH-ScoreCust: 0.000 X-Bayes-Prob: 0.0001 (Score 0, tokens from: @@RPTN) X-CanIt-Geo: ip=209.235.156.156; country=US; region=FL; city=Fort Lauderdale; postalcode=33301; latitude=26.1209; longitude=-80.1273; metrocode=528; areacode=954; http://maps.google.com/maps?q=26.1209,-80.1273&z=6 X-CanItPRO-Stream: uu:ntg-context@ntg.nl (inherits from uu:default, base:default) X-Canit-Stats-ID: 04KPSfSI0 - d2f8afaa7330 - 20131120 (trained as not-spam) X-Scanned-By: CanIt (www . roaringpenguin . com) on 195.169.124.153 X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:85350 Archived-At: On 11/20/2013 8:59 AM, Aditya Mahajan wrote: > > As far as ConTeXt is concerned, you can process the above XML quite > easily. Come to think of it, it may be a useful to provide a module that > maps HTML5 to PDF. > > Aditya I would vote for that approach. It is pretty much analogous to what I have decided to do. I'm doing my actual writing in HTML. creating CSS for ebooks and ConTeXt environment files for PDF. I'll probably hack the html2latex Perl script to do the mapping. Pandoc will /not/ meet my needs because Markdown does not distinguish between emphasized text and italic text and Pandoc compels all other input markup to behave like Markdown. Textile would be perfect but only outputs HTML well. The RedCloth implementation does output LaTeX but ignores CSS-style classes applied to paragraphs et. al. My needs are much simpler than the majority of people on this list. I have no need for math, no need for indexes, no need for bibliographies, footnotes or citations. BUT I want really top-notch visual output whether in PDF or printed on dead trees. The latter is usually the result of giving the printer process PDF files anyway so for the visuals I want, PDF is the common denominator and TeX (whether LaTeX or ConTeXt) is the most reasonable path, InDesign is not for poverty-stricken wretches like me. Unfortunately (for many reasons) the market for the stuff I write is hell-bent to replace printed books and even replace high-quality electronic presentation with formats in which the reader chooses almost everything, regardless of whether it compliments the text or not. EPUB (especially EPUB3) does appear to /want/ to provide author/designer-determined presentation but it can still be ignored or overridden by the reader. I don't want to even imagine the visual discordance of reading something like /Jane Eyre/ with double-spaced Comic Sans but if the e-reader allows it.... I'll crawl back under my rock, now. -- Bill Meahan, Westland, Michigan ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________