Re: Converting normal font into bold

Re: Converting normal font into bold

["H. Özoguz"]

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>
> >>/  May be ConTeXt experts would have better suggestions, till then you
> />>/  may want to look at the fake bold option in simplefonts -
> />>/  http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Simplefonts#Faking_italics_and_bold_fonts
> />/  
> />/  Thanks for your advice.
> />/  Unfortunately I did not manish to work with this font by simplefonts. I use the following simple setup:
> />/  
> />/  
> />/  \definefont[arabic][file:bliblablup_0.ttf*arabic at 15pt]
> /
> \definefontfeature[fakebold][extend=1.1]
>
> \definefont[arabic][file:<fontname>*arabic,fakebold at 15pt]
>
> >/  \starttext
> />/  \arabic\setupalign[r2l] ??????? ??? ???????? ?????? ???? ???????? ???????????
> />/  \stoptext
> />/  
> />/  How can I get these "fake bolds" with this setup? Or is it absolutely necessary to use Simplefont for these fake-bolds?
> /
> The feature is unrelated to simplefonts.
>
> Wolfgang

Thanks Wolfgang, but that does not seem to work with this font. See 
attachment, the font is wider, but not bold. See the difference to the 
intended result, achieved with Corel Draw (with the same font), see 
attachment.

In ConTeXt I had the following code (see attachment for the compiled pdf):

++++++++++++++++
\definefont[arabic][file:bliblablup_0.ttf*arabic at 15pt]
\definefont[arabics][file:bliblablup_0.ttf*arabic at 15pt]
\definefontfeature[fakebold][extend=1.2]
\definefont[arabic][file:bliblablup_0.ttf*arabic,fakebold at 15pt]

\starttext
\arabic\setupalign[r2l]
??????? ??? ???????? ?????? ???? ???????? ???????????
\blank\arabics\setupalign[r2l]
??????? ??? ???????? ?????? ???? ???????? ???????????
\stoptext
++++++++++++++++

Huseyin

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Re: Converting normal font into bold

[Hans Hagen]

On 11/24/2013 6:03 PM, "H. Özoguz" wrote:
>>
>> >>/  May be ConTeXt experts would have better suggestions, till then you
>> />>/  may want to look at the fake bold option in simplefonts -
>> />>/  http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Simplefonts#Faking_italics_and_bold_fonts
>> />/
>> />/  Thanks for your advice.
>> />/  Unfortunately I did not manish to work with this font by simplefonts. I use the following simple setup:
>> />/
>> />/
>> />/  \definefont[arabic][file:bliblablup_0.ttf*arabic  at 15pt]
>> /
>> \definefontfeature[fakebold][extend=1.1]
>>
>> \definefont[arabic][file:<fontname>*arabic,fakebold at 15pt]
>>
>> >/  \starttext
>> />/  \arabic\setupalign[r2l] ٱللَّهُ لَآ إِلَـٰهَ إِلَّا هُوَ ٱلْحَىُّ ٱلْقَيُّومُ
>> />/  \stoptext
>> />/
>> />/  How can I get these "fake bolds" with this setup? Or is it absolutely necessary to use Simplefont for these fake-bolds?
>> /
>> The feature is unrelated to simplefonts.
>>
>> Wolfgang
>
> Thanks Wolfgang, but that does not seem to work with this font. See
> attachment, the font is wider, but not bold. See the difference to the
> intended result, achieved with Corel Draw (with the same font), see
> attachment.
>
> In ConTeXt I had the following code (see attachment for the compiled pdf):
>
> ++++++++++++++++
> \definefont[arabic][file:bliblablup_0.ttf*arabic at 15pt]
> \definefont[arabics][file:bliblablup_0.ttf*arabic at 15pt]
> \definefontfeature[fakebold][extend=1.2]
> \definefont[arabic][file:bliblablup_0.ttf*arabic,fakebold at 15pt]
>
> \starttext
> \arabic\setupalign[r2l]
> ٱللَّهُ لَآ إِلَـٰهَ إِلَّا هُوَ ٱلْحَىُّ ٱلْقَيُّومُ
> \blank\arabics\setupalign[r2l]
> ٱللَّهُ لَآ إِلَـٰهَ إِلَّا هُوَ ٱلْحَىُّ ٱلْقَيُّومُ
> \stoptext
> ++++++++++++++++

it all depends on how they implement it but for a feature rich opentype 
font extend will not work out well unless on also scales up the internal 
font properties (and i'm not sure if that would work out well with for 
instance cursive features)

anyhow, as it's probably uses for a rare cases you can try

\setupbodyfont[dejavu]

\defineeffect [thicker] [alternative=both,rulethickness=0.3pt]

\starttext
     test \starteffect[thicker]test\stopeffect
\stoptext

these pseudo slant and bold definition tricks are an inheritance from 
pdftex and therefore in luatex ... we'd never introduced them otherwise 
as one should use proper bold fonts (or nothing)

Hans

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Re: Converting normal font into bold

["H. Özoguz"]

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> i tried to reproduce your issue but gave up because of the fact that
> it's unclear what (version) of the font is used ... you switched from 10
> to 09 and in 09 i see no 'big circular thing' so your version is
> different from the one i donwload ... so, i cannot even be certain that
> the font is okay ... so if you want to test:
>
> - make sure that you use fonts consistently
> - make sure we know where to get that version of the font
> - make sure that corel draw (or whatever) is using the same font

You are right, sorry to annoy you here, some chaos in my place ...

So, to clear all questions: for this min-example (which is at the moment 
my last unsolved problem with this font) I used this font: 
http://fonts.qurancomplex.gov.sa/download/UthmanicHafs1Ver09Font.zip

And yes, Corel Draw uses this font, too.

BUT: There might me some issue with this font relating this 
end-of-aya-symbol, independent from ConTeXt. See the attached JPG, which 
is the output of CorelDraw, if I input exactly the same arabic code, 
like in my example.
You see in the picture a different behaviour between the one-digit and 
two-digit numbers aswell. But it is a different behaviour from ConText, 
the symbol is used, but the brackets are not replaced.

Can you reproduce it now?
Thanks!

Huseyin

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Re: Converting normal font into bold

[Khaled Hosny]

On Sun, Nov 24, 2013 at 10:18:47PM +0100, "H. Özoguz" wrote:
> >It is my believe that Unicode has the wrong properties for Arabic
> >standalone Hamza; in short you should just type a regular Hamza in the
> >middle of the word and it will get positioned correctly. Placing a
> >combining Hamza over a Tatweel to “fake” it is wrong IMO. So in Amiri
> >you just type “بِءَايَٰتِ” and voilà, every thing is rendered correctly (the
> >same is true for the small Alef).
> 
> Yes, that works. But the direct way works with Uhtmanic1HafsVer9:
> 
> \definefont[arabicamiri][file:amiri-regular.ttf*arabic at 15pt]
> \definefont[arabicuth][file:UthmanicHafs1Ver09.ttf*arabic at 17pt]
> \starttext
> \setupalign[r2l]
> \arabicamiri بِـَٔايَـٰتِ
> \blank
> \arabicuth بِـَٔايَـٰتِ
> \stoptext

I consider this wrong input so it is not supported by Amiri; the Hamza
in بءايت is exactly the same Hamza in ءايت prefixed with ب, so the same
Unicode character should be used in both, and Amiri goes to a great
length to support this. Using a combing Hamza (which is a different
Hamza) over a Tatweel is just a hack to emulate the same effect that you
get “natively” with Amiri, I may support it in the future, but it is not
a priority. If you read Arabic, the Amiri manual describes the proper
Unicode sequences to input some of the Quranic marks that people get
confused about because of the messiness of this area in Unicode (I
should translate the manual to English, but time is always an issue).

> 
> To be honest, in Corel Draw UthmanicHafs is the perfect font for my purpose
> - at least in CorelDraw - e.g.: The ayat-numbers are printed as a
> unicode-symbol, not as numbers (perfect, because ConTeXt has problems with
> the direction with arabic numbers, they are mirrored in ConTeXt).
> 
> But it is only perfect in CorelDraw, in ConTeXt some things are not
> recognized correctly, as I mentioned. E.g. this one:
> 
> \definefont[arabicamiri][file:amiri-regular.ttf*arabic at 15pt]
> \definefont[arabicuth][file:UthmanicHafs1Ver09.ttf*arabic at 17pt]
> \starttext
> \setupalign[r2l]
> \arabicuth لِّلْمُتَّقِينَ ﴿٢﴾
> \stoptext
> 
> If I put the same arabic into CorelDraw, it prints a nice Unicode-Symbol for
> the number - see the JPG I have attached here, screenshot from CorelDraw,
> but ConTeXt ignores the brackets and prints just a verys small number. There
> are some problems like this. Are they easy to fix, or is this problem deeply
> involved?

This seems like a font hack, the proper way to input the Aya mark is
what Ondřej describes in his reply.

Regards,
Khaled
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Re: Converting normal font into bold

[Hans Hagen]

On 11/24/2013 11:33 PM, "H. Özoguz" wrote:
> Hi Ondra,
>
> thanks for your help.
>
>> Apparently, replacing a number enclosed in ornate parentheses (U+FD3E
>> and U+FD3F) with a number in the "end of ayah" ornament is a specialty
>> of the UthmanicHafs font. If I input the digit (e.g. U+0662) and then
>> the special non-printable "end of ayah" character (U+06DD), ConTeXt
>> and Amiri successfully output the digit inside the ornament.
>
> Hmm, ok. But if it is a speciality of UthmanicHafs, why CorelDraw
> understands it natively?

because you can never be sure what microsoft or adobe has built in their 
machinery to cope with issues or provide as (default) features

Hans

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Re: Converting normal font into bold

[Hans Hagen]

On 11/25/2013 12:34 AM, "H. Özoguz" wrote:
>> Thanks, that works fine:
>>
>> \definefont[arabicamiri][file:amiri-regular.ttf*arabic at 15pt]
>> \definefont[arabicuth][file:UthmanicHafs1Ver09.ttf*arabic at 17pt]
>> \def\eoa#1{#1\char"06DD}
>> \starttext
>> \setupalign[r2l]
>> \arabicuth لأَفَبِهَـٰذَا ٱلْحَدِيثِ أَنتُم مُّدْهِنُونَ ﴿٨١﴾\eoa
>> \stoptext
>
> Now I could locate the error in ConText better, see this code and the
> mistake, which occurs:
>
> \definefont[arabicuth][file:UthmanicHafs1Ver09.ttf*arabic at 17pt]
> \define[1]\eoa{#1\char"06DD}
> \starttext
> \setupalign[r2l]
> \arabicuth
>
> إِنَّ ٱلَّذِينَ كَفَرُوا سَوَآءٌ عَلَيْهِمْ ءَأَنذَرْتَهُمْ أَمْ لَمْ تُنذِرْهُمْ لَا يُؤْمِنُونَ ﴿٦﴾\blank
>
> إِنَّ ٱلَّذِينَ كَفَرُوا سَوَآءٌ عَلَيْهِمْ ءَأَنذَرْتَهُمْ أَمْ لَمْ تُنذِرْهُمْ لَا يُؤْمِنُونَ ﴿٦٦﴾
> \stoptext
>
> (I have attached the compiled PDF).
>
> The first aya, with a single one-digit number is not regonized
> correctly, but the second is (with a two-digit-number). Why?

i tried to reproduce your issue but gave up because of the fact that 
it's unclear what (version) of the font is used ... you switched from 10 
to 09 and in 09 i see no 'big circular thing' so your version is 
different from the one i donwload ... so, i cannot even be certain that 
the font is okay ... so if you want to test:

- make sure that you use fonts consistently
- make sure we know where to get that version of the font
- make sure that corel draw (or whatever) is using the same font

Hans

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Re: Converting normal font into bold

["H. Özoguz"]

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> Thanks, that works fine:
>
> \definefont[arabicamiri][file:amiri-regular.ttf*arabic at 15pt]
> \definefont[arabicuth][file:UthmanicHafs1Ver09.ttf*arabic at 17pt]
> \def\eoa#1{#1\char"06DD}
> \starttext
> \setupalign[r2l]
> \arabicuth لأَفَبِهَـٰذَا ٱلْحَدِيثِ أَنتُم مُّدْهِنُونَ ﴿٨١﴾\eoa
> \stoptext

Now I could locate the error in ConText better, see this code and the 
mistake, which occurs:

\definefont[arabicuth][file:UthmanicHafs1Ver09.ttf*arabic at 17pt]
\define[1]\eoa{#1\char"06DD}
\starttext
\setupalign[r2l]
\arabicuth

إِنَّ ٱلَّذِينَ كَفَرُوا سَوَآءٌ عَلَيْهِمْ ءَأَنذَرْتَهُمْ أَمْ لَمْ تُنذِرْهُمْ لَا يُؤْمِنُونَ ﴿٦﴾\blank

إِنَّ ٱلَّذِينَ كَفَرُوا سَوَآءٌ عَلَيْهِمْ ءَأَنذَرْتَهُمْ أَمْ لَمْ تُنذِرْهُمْ لَا يُؤْمِنُونَ ﴿٦٦﴾
\stoptext

(I have attached the compiled PDF).

The first aya, with a single one-digit number is not regonized 
correctly, but the second is (with a two-digit-number). Why?

Huseyin


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Re: Converting normal font into bold

["H. Özoguz"]

Hi Ondra,

thanks for your help.

> Apparently, replacing a number enclosed in ornate parentheses (U+FD3E
> and U+FD3F) with a number in the "end of ayah" ornament is a specialty
> of the UthmanicHafs font. If I input the digit (e.g. U+0662) and then
> the special non-printable "end of ayah" character (U+06DD), ConTeXt
> and Amiri successfully output the digit inside the ornament.

Hmm, ok. But if it is a speciality of UthmanicHafs, why CorelDraw 
understands it natively?

> Of course, since U+06DD is a non-printable character, it might be a
> pain to work with in a text editor; you might want to define a custom
> command for this purpose:
>
> \def\eoa#1{#1\char"06DD}

Thanks, that works fine:

\definefont[arabicamiri][file:amiri-regular.ttf*arabic at 15pt]
\definefont[arabicuth][file:UthmanicHafs1Ver09.ttf*arabic at 17pt]
\def\eoa#1{#1\char"06DD}
\starttext
\setupalign[r2l]
\arabicuth لأَفَبِهَـٰذَا ٱلْحَدِيثِ أَنتُم مُّدْهِنُونَ ﴿٨١﴾\eoa
\stoptext

But now another question arises: How to input this command into my 
unicode of quran automatically? (I am using notepad++). Not the best way 
to do this manually for all 286 Ayas (and then search and replace for 
all ayas of all suras).

And still: There must be some tricks in CorelDraw handling fonts, which 
would be great to have in ConText :)

Thank you!
Huseyin

PS: Sorry for these annoyong thread-breaking all the time - I really do 
not know, what I make wrong here. I am using Thunderbird. If anybody 
knows how to use thunderbird for email lists correctly, I would be thankful.


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Re: Converting normal font into bold

[Ondřej Hošek]

Hi Huseyin,

On Sun, Nov 24, 2013 at 10:18 PM, "H. Özoguz" <h.oezoguz@mmnetz.de> wrote:
> If I put the same arabic into CorelDraw, it prints a nice Unicode-Symbol for
> the number - see the JPG I have attached here, screenshot from CorelDraw,
> but ConTeXt ignores the brackets and prints just a verys small number. There
> are some problems like this. Are they easy to fix, or is this problem deeply
> involved?

Apparently, replacing a number enclosed in ornate parentheses (U+FD3E
and U+FD3F) with a number in the "end of ayah" ornament is a specialty
of the UthmanicHafs font. If I input the digit (e.g. U+0662) and then
the special non-printable "end of ayah" character (U+06DD), ConTeXt
and Amiri successfully output the digit inside the ornament.

Of course, since U+06DD is a non-printable character, it might be a
pain to work with in a text editor; you might want to define a custom
command for this purpose:

\def\eoa#1{#1\char"06DD}

Cheers,
~~ Ondra
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Re: Converting normal font into bold

["H. Özoguz"]

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> It is my believe that Unicode has the wrong properties for Arabic
> standalone Hamza; in short you should just type a regular Hamza in the
> middle of the word and it will get positioned correctly. Placing a
> combining Hamza over a Tatweel to “fake” it is wrong IMO. So in Amiri
> you just type “بِءَايَٰتِ” and voilà, every thing is rendered correctly (the
> same is true for the small Alef).

Yes, that works. But the direct way works with Uhtmanic1HafsVer9:

\definefont[arabicamiri][file:amiri-regular.ttf*arabic at 15pt]
\definefont[arabicuth][file:UthmanicHafs1Ver09.ttf*arabic at 17pt]
\starttext
\setupalign[r2l]
\arabicamiri بِـَٔايَـٰتِ
\blank
\arabicuth بِـَٔايَـٰتِ
\stoptext

To be honest, in Corel Draw UthmanicHafs is the perfect font for my 
purpose - at least in CorelDraw - e.g.: The ayat-numbers are printed as 
a unicode-symbol, not as numbers (perfect, because ConTeXt has problems 
with the direction with arabic numbers, they are mirrored in ConTeXt).

But it is only perfect in CorelDraw, in ConTeXt some things are not 
recognized correctly, as I mentioned. E.g. this one:

\definefont[arabicamiri][file:amiri-regular.ttf*arabic at 15pt]
\definefont[arabicuth][file:UthmanicHafs1Ver09.ttf*arabic at 17pt]
\starttext
\setupalign[r2l]
\arabicuth لِّلْمُتَّقِينَ ﴿٢﴾
\stoptext

If I put the same arabic into CorelDraw, it prints a nice Unicode-Symbol 
for the number - see the JPG I have attached here, screenshot from 
CorelDraw, but ConTeXt ignores the brackets and prints just a verys 
small number. There are some problems like this. Are they easy to fix, 
or is this problem deeply involved?

Huseyin




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Re: Converting normal font into bold

[Khaled Hosny]

On Sun, Nov 24, 2013 at 08:53:00PM +0100, "H. Özoguz" wrote:
> Again, because arabic seems to be vanished in my first posting, I dont know why.
> 
> 
> Thanks Khaled,
> 
> the Naskh-Style is not an absolute requirement, but it is very well
> known and very common (at least for muslims in germany) - and it is very
> nice, of course, this is an question of flavor.
> 
> I know your font, of course, but I had always problems with it in
> typesetting quran. Maybe you can help?
> 
> See the following code:
> 
> 
> \definefont[arabicamiri][file:amiri-regular.ttf*arabic at 15pt]
> \definefont[arabicb][file:uthmantn1ver10.ttf*arabic at 17pt]
> \starttext
> 
>      \setupalign[r2l]
> 
>      \arabicamiri مِن قَبْلُ هُدًى لِّلنَّاسِ وَأَنزَلَ ٱلْفُرْقَانَ ۗ
> إِنَّ ٱلَّذِينَ كَفَرُوا۟ بِـَٔايَـٰتِ ٱللَّهِ لَهُمْ عَذَابٌ شَدِيدٌ ۗ
> وَٱللَّهُ عَزِيزٌ ذُو ٱنتِقَامٍ
> 
> \blank\blank
> 
>      \arabicb مِن قَبْلُ هُدًى لِّلنَّاسِ وَأَنزَلَ ٱلْفُرْقَانَ ۗ إِنَّ
>  ٱلَّذِينَ كَفَرُوا۟ بِـَٔايَـٰتِ ٱللَّهِ لَهُمْ عَذَابٌ شَدِيدٌ ۗ
> وَٱللَّهُ عَزِيزٌ ذُو ٱنتِقَامٍ\par
> \stoptext
> 
> There are some issues within this example:
> 
> - overlapping letters (see "Aziyz")

This can be easily fixed (I can send you a fixed version if you want,
but better to discuss those issues off list).

> - "bi ayaatillah" (overlapping of fatha and hamza)

It is my believe that Unicode has the wrong properties for Arabic
standalone Hamza; in short you should just type a regular Hamza in the
middle of the word and it will get positioned correctly. Placing a
combining Hamza over a Tatweel to “fake” it is wrong IMO. So in Amiri
you just type “بِءَايَٰتِ” and voilà, every thing is rendered correctly (the
same is true for the small Alef).

It seem I just found a few ConTeXt bugs with the font, off to prepare some
tests for Hans… (just if I can use HarfBuzz and forget about all this!).

Regards,
Khaled
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Re: Converting normal font into bold

["H. Özoguz"]

Again, because arabic seems to be vanished in my first posting, I dont know why.


Thanks Khaled,

the Naskh-Style is not an absolute requirement, but it is very well
known and very common (at least for muslims in germany) - and it is very
nice, of course, this is an question of flavor.

I know your font, of course, but I had always problems with it in
typesetting quran. Maybe you can help?

See the following code:


\definefont[arabicamiri][file:amiri-regular.ttf*arabic at 15pt]
\definefont[arabicb][file:uthmantn1ver10.ttf*arabic at 17pt]
\starttext

      \setupalign[r2l]

      \arabicamiri مِن قَبْلُ هُدًى لِّلنَّاسِ وَأَنزَلَ ٱلْفُرْقَانَ ۗ
إِنَّ ٱلَّذِينَ كَفَرُوا۟ بِـَٔايَـٰتِ ٱللَّهِ لَهُمْ عَذَابٌ شَدِيدٌ ۗ
وَٱللَّهُ عَزِيزٌ ذُو ٱنتِقَامٍ

\blank\blank

      \arabicb مِن قَبْلُ هُدًى لِّلنَّاسِ وَأَنزَلَ ٱلْفُرْقَانَ ۗ إِنَّ
  ٱلَّذِينَ كَفَرُوا۟ بِـَٔايَـٰتِ ٱللَّهِ لَهُمْ عَذَابٌ شَدِيدٌ ۗ
وَٱللَّهُ عَزِيزٌ ذُو ٱنتِقَامٍ\par
\stoptext

There are some issues within this example:

- overlapping letters (see "Aziyz")
- "bi ayaatillah" (overlapping of fatha and hamza)

And besides from that: It is not so harmonic like the other font, seems
more like a not-caligraphic hand-font (no offense of course :))

But possibly I am making something very wrong, can you help me? Thank
you very much. My project is to typesetting quran completely, and that
is not easy without an perfect font. If you have a commercial variant
with license, please inform me, our company would surely buy it.

Thanks and wassalam

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Re: Converting normal font into bold

[Khaled Hosny]

On Sun, Nov 24, 2013 at 06:52:31PM +0100, "H. Özoguz" wrote:
> >The extend feature stretches the glyphs to get narrow or wide font but it doesn’t embolden it.
> >
> >The best solution is to get a font with a real bold style, money shouldn’t be a problem because fonts are cheap nowadays.
> >
> >Wolfgang
> 
> Thanks, I hoped the it could really embold ist (like I did it in CorelDraw).
> 
> Of course, money is not the problem at all - I am using it commercially, so
> the company should by any arabic font I would suggest. But it is very hard
> to find an modern font, which is capable of typsetting Quran, with full
> supprt and all special symbols (wich are not a part of standard modern
> arabic)

http://amirifont.org/

> - and more hard to find such a find in this style (Uthmanic).

There is no such a style, it is just a simplified (dumbed down) Naskh
style used only in one single Mushaf. Why is that a requirement?

Regards,
Khaled
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Re: Converting normal font into bold

["H. Özoguz"]

> The extend feature stretches the glyphs to get narrow or wide font but it doesn’t embolden it.
>
> The best solution is to get a font with a real bold style, money shouldn’t be a problem because fonts are cheap nowadays.
>
> Wolfgang

Thanks, I hoped the it could really embold ist (like I did it in 
CorelDraw).

Of course, money is not the problem at all - I am using it commercially, 
so the company should by any arabic font I would suggest. But it is very 
hard to find an modern font, which is capable of typsetting Quran, with 
full supprt and all special symbols (wich are not a part of standard 
modern arabic) - and more hard to find such a find in this style (Uthmanic).

Huseyin
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Re: Converting normal font into bold

[Wolfgang Schuster]

Am 24.11.2013 um 18:12 schrieb H. Özoguz <h.oezoguz@mmnetz.de>:

> >
> >
> > >> May be ConTeXt experts would have better suggestions, till then you
> > >> may want to look at the fake bold option in simplefonts -
> > >> http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Simplefonts#Faking_italics_and_bold_fonts
> > >
> > > Thanks for your advice.
> > > Unfortunately I did not manish to work with this font by simplefonts. I use the following simple setup:
> > >
> > >
> > > \definefont[arabic][file:bliblablup_0.ttf*arabic at 15pt]
> >
> > \definefontfeature[fakebold][extend=1.1]
> >
> > \definefont[arabic][file:<fontname>*arabic,fakebold at 15pt]
> >
> > > \starttext
> > > \arabic\setupalign[r2l] ٱللَّهُ لَآ إِلَـٰهَ إِلَّا هُوَ ٱلْحَىُّ ٱلْقَيُّومُ
> > > \stoptext
> > >
> > > How can I get these "fake bolds" with this setup? Or is it absolutely necessary to use Simplefont for these fake-bolds?
> >
> > The feature is unrelated to simplefonts.
> >
> > Wolfgang
> 
> Thanks Wolfgang, but that does not seem to work with this font. See attachment, the font is wider, but not bold.

The extend feature stretches the glyphs to get narrow or wide font but it doesn’t embolden it.

The best solution is to get a font with a real bold style, money shouldn’t be a problem because fonts are cheap nowadays.

Wolfgang
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Re: Converting normal font into bold

["H. Özoguz"]

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 >
 >
 > >> May be ConTeXt experts would have better suggestions, till then you
 > >> may want to look at the fake bold option in simplefonts -
 > >> 
http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Simplefonts#Faking_italics_and_bold_fonts
 > >
 > > Thanks for your advice.
 > > Unfortunately I did not manish to work with this font by 
simplefonts. I use the following simple setup:
 > >
 > >
 > > \definefont[arabic][file:bliblablup_0.ttf*arabic at 15pt]
 >
 > \definefontfeature[fakebold][extend=1.1]
 >
 > \definefont[arabic][file:<fontname>*arabic,fakebold at 15pt]
 >
 > > \starttext
 > > \arabic\setupalign[r2l] ٱللَّهُ لَآ إِلَـٰهَ إِلَّا هُوَ ٱلْحَىُّ ٱلْقَيُّومُ
 > > \stoptext
 > >
 > > How can I get these "fake bolds" with this setup? Or is it 
absolutely necessary to use Simplefont for these fake-bolds?
 >
 > The feature is unrelated to simplefonts.
 >
 > Wolfgang

Thanks Wolfgang, but that does not seem to work with this font. See 
attachment, the font is wider, but not bold.

++++++++++++++++
\definefont[arabic][file:bliblablup_0.ttf*arabic at 15pt]
\definefont[arabics][file:bliblablup_0.ttf*arabic at 15pt]
\definefontfeature[fakebold][extend=1.2]
\definefont[arabic][file:bliblablup_0.ttf*arabic,fakebold at 15pt]

\starttext
\arabic\setupalign[r2l]
ٱللَّهُ لَآ إِلَـٰهَ إِلَّا هُوَ ٱلْحَىُّ ٱلْقَيُّومُ
\blank\arabics\setupalign[r2l]
ٱللَّهُ لَآ إِلَـٰهَ إِلَّا هُوَ ٱلْحَىُّ ٱلْقَيُّومُ
\stoptext
++++++++++++++++

Huseyin

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Re: Converting normal font into bold

[Wolfgang Schuster]

Am 24.11.2013 um 15:32 schrieb H. Özoguz <h.oezoguz@mmnetz.de>:

>> May be ConTeXt experts would have better suggestions, till then you
>> may want to look at the fake bold option in simplefonts -
>> http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Simplefonts#Faking_italics_and_bold_fonts
> 
> Thanks for your advice.
> Unfortunately I did not manish to work with this font by simplefonts. I use the following simple setup:
> 
> 
> \definefont[arabic][file:bliblablup_0.ttf*arabic at 15pt]

\definefontfeature[fakebold][extend=1.1]

\definefont[arabic][file:<fontname>*arabic,fakebold at 15pt]

> \starttext
> \arabic\setupalign[r2l] ٱللَّهُ لَآ إِلَـٰهَ إِلَّا هُوَ ٱلْحَىُّ ٱلْقَيُّومُ
> \stoptext
> 
> How can I get these "fake bolds" with this setup? Or is it absolutely necessary to use Simplefont for these fake-bolds?

The feature is unrelated to simplefonts.

Wolfgang
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Re: Converting normal font into bold

["H. Özoguz"]

> May be ConTeXt experts would have better suggestions, till then you
> may want to look at the fake bold option in simplefonts -
> http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Simplefonts#Faking_italics_and_bold_fonts

Thanks for your advice.
Unfortunately I did not manish to work with this font by simplefonts. I use the following simple setup:


\definefont[arabic][file:bliblablup_0.ttf*arabic at 15pt]
\starttext
\arabic\setupalign[r2l] ٱللَّهُ لَآ إِلَـٰهَ إِلَّا هُوَ ٱلْحَىُّ ٱلْقَيُّومُ
\stoptext

How can I get these "fake bolds" with this setup? Or is it absolutely necessary to use Simplefont for these fake-bolds?

Thanks.
Huseyin

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Re: Converting normal font into bold

[Rajeesh K Nambiar]

On Sun, Nov 24, 2013 at 2:01 PM, "H. Özoguz" <h.oezoguz@mmnetz.de> wrote:
>
> Now the question: I obviously cant set the entire book (more than 600 pages)
> with Corel-Draw, and want too use ConText, of course. So is there a way to
> produce this boldness out of this too thin font within ConText, too?
>

May be ConTeXt experts would have better suggestions, till then you
may want to look at the fake bold option in simplefonts -
http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Simplefonts#Faking_italics_and_bold_fonts


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Cheers,
Rajeesh
http://rajeeshknambiar.wordpress.com
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Converting normal font into bold

["H. Özoguz"]

Hello together,

I have an arabic font, which is quite perfect, but only a little bit too 
thin, so that it seems to "vanish" into the white of the paper. 
Unfortunately this font does not come with an bold-variant.

Now I tried to manipulate it with CorelDraw, just converted into curves 
and added an contour (verys small 0.13pt, while font was 11pt) - and it 
worked! This "aritificial bold-font" works very well, better then I 
hoped, no problems - although it is no hand-tundes bold, but only 
countour-adding.

Now the question: I obviously cant set the entire book (more than 600 
pages) with Corel-Draw, and want too use ConText, of course. So is there 
a way to produce this boldness out of this too thin font within ConText, 
too?

Thank your very much.
Best regards,
Huseyin
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