From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/85450 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Hans Hagen Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: Converting (a not so) normal font into bold Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2013 20:18:37 +0100 Message-ID: <5293A28D.8080508@wxs.nl> References: <52933296.5040107@mmnetz.de> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; Format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1385407127 16061 80.91.229.3 (25 Nov 2013 19:18:47 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2013 19:18:47 +0000 (UTC) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Mon Nov 25 20:18:53 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([5.39.185.229]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Vl1gK-0005Ko-J7 for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Mon, 25 Nov 2013 20:18:52 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7E261024B; Mon, 25 Nov 2013 20:18:51 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at balder.ntg.nl Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (balder.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id avU1njwoJ5or; Mon, 25 Nov 2013 20:18:49 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25404101E9; Mon, 25 Nov 2013 20:18:49 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF93D101E9 for ; Mon, 25 Nov 2013 20:18:47 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at balder.ntg.nl Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (balder.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id PSXfeJr30ImA for ; Mon, 25 Nov 2013 20:18:44 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from filter5-til.mf.surf.net (filter5-til.mf.surf.net [194.171.167.221]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A09A101DE for ; Mon, 25 Nov 2013 20:18:44 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from smtp.ziggozakelijk.nl (D57D1DA2.static.ziggozakelijk.nl [213.125.29.162]) by filter5-til.mf.surf.net (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-9.4) with ESMTP id rAPJIh3P016159 for ; Mon, 25 Nov 2013 20:18:44 +0100 X-Default-Received-SPF: pass (skip=loggedin (res=PASS)) x-ip-name=10.100.1.103; Original-Received: from [10.100.1.103] (unverified [10.100.1.103]) by pragma-net.nl (SurgeMail 6.3c2) with ESMTP id 1406-1713362 for multiple; Mon, 25 Nov 2013 20:18:40 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.3; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.1.1 In-Reply-To: <52933296.5040107@mmnetz.de> X-Authenticated-User: hagen@controller-9 X-Bayes-Prob: 0.0001 (Score 0, tokens from: @@RPTN) X-CanIt-Geo: ip=213.125.29.162; country=NL; region=15; city=Zwolle; latitude=52.5058; longitude=6.0858; http://maps.google.com/maps?q=52.5058,6.0858&z=6 X-CanItPRO-Stream: uu:ntg-context@ntg.nl (inherits from uu:default, base:default) X-Canit-Stats-ID: 0WKRTiHP7 - a0543b95a7a5 - 20131125 (trained as not-spam) X-Scanned-By: CanIt (www . roaringpenguin . com) on 194.171.167.221 X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:85450 Archived-At: On 11/25/2013 12:20 PM, "H. =D6zoguz" wrote: >> i tried to reproduce your issue but gave up because of the fact that >> it's unclear what (version) of the font is used ... you switched from 10 >> to 09 and in 09 i see no 'big circular thing' so your version is >> different from the one i donwload ... so, i cannot even be certain that >> the font is okay ... so if you want to test: >> >> - make sure that you use fonts consistently >> - make sure we know where to get that version of the font >> - make sure that corel draw (or whatever) is using the same font > > You are right, sorry to annoy you here, some chaos in my place ... > > So, to clear all questions: for this min-example (which is at the moment > my last unsolved problem with this font) I used this font: > http://fonts.qurancomplex.gov.sa/download/UthmanicHafs1Ver09Font.zip > > And yes, Corel Draw uses this font, too. > > BUT: There might me some issue with this font relating this > end-of-aya-symbol, independent from ConTeXt. See the attached JPG, which > is the output of CorelDraw, if I input exactly the same arabic code, > like in my example. > You see in the picture a different behaviour between the one-digit and > two-digit numbers aswell. But it is a different behaviour from ConText, > the symbol is used, but the brackets are not replaced. > > Can you reproduce it now? yes, but calling this a normal font is somewhat over-the-top (1) the left/right () are not part of the lookup, and they are not even = in the font: imo they should be, and also be part of the lookup then (2) you cannot expect other digits to work well as *all* become = ornamented, so the font is only useable for special purposes (for which = it might lack other niceties) (3) the * n are mapped onto a ligature (lots of them are = available in the font, upto a certain number) (4) so, also a single digit is a ligature and (mostly because i have all = kinds of tracing depending on cases, i never expected that one to happen = so it was not done at all) At least I now see the odd cases and keep an eye on them. It's also = another demo that traditional font terminology - like 'ligature' - in = opentype usage / implementation is rather useless. I uploaded a beta that fixes the = single-substitution-disguised-as-ligature but be aware of the fact that = it's a somewhat weird font so watch your input. Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl ----------------------------------------------------------------- ___________________________________________________________________________= ________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to t= he Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-cont= ext webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________= ________