From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/85997 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Hans Hagen Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: Need for \buildtextaccent, was Re: latest beta Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2014 19:51:49 +0100 Message-ID: <52D97BC5.9090707@wxs.nl> References: <52D85BF4.6030905@uni-bonn.de> <52D91263.3040601@wxs.nl> <52D95482.3060201@rik.users.panix.com> <52D9723A.4080501@wxs.nl> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1389984719 8673 80.91.229.3 (17 Jan 2014 18:51:59 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2014 18:51:59 +0000 (UTC) To: ntg-context@ntg.nl Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Fri Jan 17 19:52:04 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([5.39.185.229]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1W4EWR-0001vs-0E for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Fri, 17 Jan 2014 19:52:03 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C03F101EE; Fri, 17 Jan 2014 19:52:02 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at balder.ntg.nl Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (balder.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id d603ocqqpdck; Fri, 17 Jan 2014 19:52:00 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4472B101E6; Fri, 17 Jan 2014 19:52:00 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E88D101E6 for ; Fri, 17 Jan 2014 19:51:59 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at balder.ntg.nl Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (balder.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 3D2LEXQr82LE for ; Fri, 17 Jan 2014 19:51:57 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from filter5-til.mf.surf.net (filter5-til.mf.surf.net [194.171.167.221]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EDE7101E1 for ; Fri, 17 Jan 2014 19:51:57 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from smtp.ziggozakelijk.nl (D57D1DA2.static.ziggozakelijk.nl [213.125.29.162]) by filter5-til.mf.surf.net (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-9.4) with ESMTP id s0HIpuUW027077 for ; Fri, 17 Jan 2014 19:51:56 +0100 X-Default-Received-SPF: pass (skip=loggedin (res=PASS)) x-ip-name=10.100.1.103; Original-Received: from [10.100.1.103] (unverified [10.100.1.103]) by pragma-net.nl (SurgeMail 6.3c2) with ESMTP id 5750-1713362 for ; Fri, 17 Jan 2014 19:51:55 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.3; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.2.0 In-Reply-To: X-Authenticated-User: hagen@controller-9 X-Bayes-Prob: 0.0001 (Score 0, tokens from: @@RPTN) X-CanIt-Geo: ip=213.125.29.162; country=NL; region=15; city=Zwolle; latitude=52.5058; longitude=6.0858; http://maps.google.com/maps?q=52.5058,6.0858&z=6 X-CanItPRO-Stream: uu:ntg-context@ntg.nl (inherits from uu:default, base:default) X-Canit-Stats-ID: 0WLf6PUVa - dfadf3656b76 - 20140117 (trained as not-spam) X-Scanned-By: CanIt (www . roaringpenguin . com) on 194.171.167.221 X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:85997 Archived-At: On 1/17/2014 7:39 PM, Mojca Miklavec wrote: > On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 7:11 PM, Hans Hagen wrote: >> >> do we need a module with predefined 'missing from unicode' characters? > > I don't think so. We can end up with a neverending and always > incomplete list (with theoretically unlimited number of entries), > usable only to those few people who will care to contribute. In my > opinion such a list is pretty much useless. > > Unicode already specifies that one could use "q" followed by > "combining acute". And TeX also has support for {\'q}. Everything else > is private use, something that users might not even use in more than a > single document. I don't see any advantage in creating an endless > incomplete list. In all honesty it's a lot more > useful/readable/straightforward to use {\'q} or proper Unicode in > these cases. And if it's not comfortable enough for the user, he can > always provide his own private definitions. > Thomas and Rik most probably need just the existing mechanism to work > properly. Well, it might be slightly different for Thomas where > Ancient Greek has a limited set of letters, but then such a list > should better be defined in an "ancient greek predefined characters > module". the mechanisms works ok (i just made it a bit more efficient, not that it matters much) > Just my 2 cents. it depends on to what extend such characters play a different role too and need to travel around (but as there never was any demand for that i assume 2 cents will do) Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl ----------------------------------------------------------------- ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________