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* enable kerning with discretionary hyphen
@ 2014-01-19 17:51 Pablo Rodriguez
  2014-01-19 22:43 ` Hans Hagen
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread
From: Pablo Rodriguez @ 2014-01-19 17:51 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: mailing list for ConTeXt users

Dear list,

as I have asked in a previous message to the list, I wanted to be able
to hyphenate \ConTeXt.

Aditya kindly suggested the use of \discretionary, but this has an
unintended collateral effect: kerning is disabled in the word.

I can specify kerning with \discretionary, such as in:

\def\ConTeXt{Con\discretionary{-}{}{\kern-.06em}\TeX{}t}

But this also has another consequence: this works right for Pagella
regular, but this is wrong with the italic font or in small caps (also
with the bold or bold italic fonts, but I don’t use them).

\hyphenation would be the way to solve this, but I don’t know how to
make it work:

\def\ConTeXt{Con\TeX{}t}
\hyphenation{Con-\TeX}
\starttext
  \hsize\zeropoint
  \ConTeXt

  ConTeXt
\stoptext

Even in the case it could work, I would like to know how I could define
commands (\ConTeXt or \TeX) only referred to individual fonts.

Many thanks for your help,


Pablo
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* Re: enable kerning with discretionary hyphen
  2014-01-19 17:51 enable kerning with discretionary hyphen Pablo Rodriguez
@ 2014-01-19 22:43 ` Hans Hagen
  2014-01-21 20:34   ` Pablo Rodriguez
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread
From: Hans Hagen @ 2014-01-19 22:43 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On 1/19/2014 6:51 PM, Pablo Rodriguez wrote:
> Dear list,
>
> as I have asked in a previous message to the list, I wanted to be able
> to hyphenate \ConTeXt.
>
> Aditya kindly suggested the use of \discretionary, but this has an
> unintended collateral effect: kerning is disabled in the word.
>
> I can specify kerning with \discretionary, such as in:
>
> \def\ConTeXt{Con\discretionary{-}{}{\kern-.06em}\TeX{}t}
>
> But this also has another consequence: this works right for Pagella
> regular, but this is wrong with the italic font or in small caps (also
> with the bold or bold italic fonts, but I don’t use them).
>
> \hyphenation would be the way to solve this, but I don’t know how to
> make it work:
>
> \def\ConTeXt{Con\TeX{}t}
> \hyphenation{Con-\TeX}
> \starttext
>    \hsize\zeropoint
>    \ConTeXt
>
>    ConTeXt
> \stoptext
>
> Even in the case it could work, I would like to know how I could define
> commands (\ConTeXt or \TeX) only referred to individual fonts.

just use \def\ConTeXt{Con\-TeXt} then or \def\ConTeXt{Con\-text} or 
whatever you like ... we're not that picky about it.

Hans

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* Re: enable kerning with discretionary hyphen
  2014-01-19 22:43 ` Hans Hagen
@ 2014-01-21 20:34   ` Pablo Rodriguez
  2014-01-21 21:01     ` Wolfgang Schuster
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread
From: Pablo Rodriguez @ 2014-01-21 20:34 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On 01/19/2014 11:43 PM, Hans Hagen wrote:
> On 1/19/2014 6:51 PM, Pablo Rodriguez wrote:
>> [...]
>> Even in the case it could work, I would like to know how I could define
>> commands (\ConTeXt or \TeX) only referred to individual fonts.
> 
> just use \def\ConTeXt{Con\-TeXt} then or \def\ConTeXt{Con\-text} or 
> whatever you like ... we're not that picky about it.

Many thanks for your reply, Hans.

Sorry, only one more question on this topic: isn’t it possible to define
something such as the following pseudocode?

  if emphasis (or italics):
    (\ConTeXt}{definition}
  elif smallcaps:
    (\ConTeXt}{definition}
  else:
    (\ConTeXt}{definition}

Well, I guess Ι‘m that picky about it :-).

Many thanks for your help,


Pablo
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http://www.ousia.tk
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* Re: enable kerning with discretionary hyphen
  2014-01-21 20:34   ` Pablo Rodriguez
@ 2014-01-21 21:01     ` Wolfgang Schuster
  2014-01-22 17:42       ` Pablo Rodriguez
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread
From: Wolfgang Schuster @ 2014-01-21 21:01 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: mailing list for ConTeXt users


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You can use the \fontalternative command to check for the current alternative (upright, italic, bold etc.) of the font.  

\def\Test  
  {\processaction
     [\fontalternative]
[     tf=>Upright,
           it=>Italic,
           sl=>Slanted,
           bf=>Bold,
           bi=>Bolditalic,
           bs=>Boldslanted,
      unknown=>Unknown fontalternative]}
   
\starttext
“\Test” {\it “\Test”} {\bs “\Test”} {\sc “\Test”}
\stoptext


On 21.01.2014 21:34:17, Pablo Rodriguez <oinos@gmx.es> wrote: On 01/19/2014 11:43 PM, Hans Hagen wrote:
> On 1/19/2014 6:51 PM, Pablo Rodriguez wrote:
>> [...]
>> Even in the case it could work, I would like to know how I could define
>> commands (\ConTeXt or \TeX) only referred to individual fonts.
>
> just use \def\ConTeXt{Con\-TeXt} then or \def\ConTeXt{Con\-text} or
> whatever you like ... we're not that picky about it.

Many thanks for your reply, Hans.

Sorry, only one more question on this topic: isn’t it possible to define
something such as the following pseudocode?

if emphasis (or italics):
(\ConTeXt}{definition}
elif smallcaps:
(\ConTeXt}{definition}
else:
(\ConTeXt}{definition}

Well, I guess Ι‘m that picky about it :-).

Many thanks for your help,


Pablo
--
http://www.ousia.tk
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* Re: enable kerning with discretionary hyphen
  2014-01-21 21:01     ` Wolfgang Schuster
@ 2014-01-22 17:42       ` Pablo Rodriguez
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 5+ messages in thread
From: Pablo Rodriguez @ 2014-01-22 17:42 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On 01/21/2014 10:01 PM, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
> You can use the \fontalternative command to check for the current
> alternative (upright, italic, bold etc.) of the font.
> 
> \def\Test
>   {\processaction
>      [\fontalternative]
> [     tf=>Upright,
>            it=>Italic,
>            sl=>Slanted,
>            bf=>Bold,
>            bi=>Bolditalic,
>            bs=>Boldslanted,
>       unknown=>Unknown fontalternative]}
>   
> \starttext
> “\Test” {\it “\Test”} {\bs “\Test”} {\sc “\Test”}
> \stoptext

Many thanks for the solution and your excellent explanation, Wolfgang.

This was exactly what I needed.

Many thanks again,


Pablo
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