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* special case to disable italic correction
@ 2014-01-26 19:24 Pablo Rodriguez
  2014-01-28 14:14 ` Hans Hagen
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 3+ messages in thread
From: Pablo Rodriguez @ 2014-01-26 19:24 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Hi Hans,

after reading the relevant part for italic correction in fonts-mkiv.pdf
and enabling it in my documents, I have found a case in which the italic
correction could be improved.

My settings are:

  \definefontfeature[default][default][itlc=yes]
  \setupitaliccorrection[global,always]

If I get it right, the italic correction should be avoided before points
and commas (these are all the exceptions I can imagine for this case).
The explanation is simple: the space is already at the base line, since
at the glyph base, the inclination of the italic or slanted glyph makes
the right side-bearing larger at the baseline. The issue with italic
correction is mainly with ascenders or at the cap height, but I think it
isn’t at the base line (or the descenders). Because of that I think it
is important to disable italic correction before points and commas.

The sample shows the issue:

\setuppagenumbering[location=]
\definefontfeature[default][default][itlc=yes]
\setupitaliccorrection[global,always]
\starttext
\startTEXpage[offset=1ex]
Abf. {\em Abf}.\\
Abf, {\em Abf},\\
Abf. {\it Abf}.\\
Abf, {\it Abf},
\stopTEXpage
\stoptext

I think it might be worth considering.

Many thanks for your help and your excellent work,

Pablo
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* Re: special case to disable italic correction
  2014-01-26 19:24 special case to disable italic correction Pablo Rodriguez
@ 2014-01-28 14:14 ` Hans Hagen
  2014-01-28 17:51   ` Pablo Rodriguez
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 3+ messages in thread
From: Hans Hagen @ 2014-01-28 14:14 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: mailing list for ConTeXt users

On 1/26/2014 8:24 PM, Pablo Rodriguez wrote:
> Hi Hans,
>
> after reading the relevant part for italic correction in fonts-mkiv.pdf
> and enabling it in my documents, I have found a case in which the italic
> correction could be improved.
>
> My settings are:
>
>    \definefontfeature[default][default][itlc=yes]
>    \setupitaliccorrection[global,always]
>
> If I get it right, the italic correction should be avoided before points
> and commas (these are all the exceptions I can imagine for this case).
> The explanation is simple: the space is already at the base line, since
> at the glyph base, the inclination of the italic or slanted glyph makes
> the right side-bearing larger at the baseline. The issue with italic
> correction is mainly with ascenders or at the cap height, but I think it
> isn’t at the base line (or the descenders). Because of that I think it
> is important to disable italic correction before points and commas.
>
> The sample shows the issue:
>
> \setuppagenumbering[location=]
> \definefontfeature[default][default][itlc=yes]
> \setupitaliccorrection[global,always]
> \starttext
> \startTEXpage[offset=1ex]
> Abf. {\em Abf}.\\
> Abf, {\em Abf},\\
> Abf. {\it Abf}.\\
> Abf, {\it Abf},
> \stopTEXpage
> \stoptext
>
> I think it might be worth considering.
>
> Many thanks for your help and your excellent work,

Hard coded char checking is talking all punctuation is tricky, so i now 
use a threshold instead (enabled by default).

\disabledirectives[typesetters.threshold]

% % % % test:

\definefontfeature
   [default]
   [default]
   [itlc=yes]

\setupitaliccorrection
   [global,always]

% \enabletrackers[typesetters.italics]

\starttext
     \startTEXpage[offset=1ex]
         f. {\em f}.\par f, {\em f},\par f. {\it f}.\par f, {\it f},\par 
f: {\it f}:\par f; {\it f};\par
         x. {\em x}.\par x, {\em x},\par x. {\it x}.\par x, {\it x},\par 
x: {\it x}:\par x; {\it x};\par
     \stopTEXpage
\stoptext


Will be in next beta.

Hans


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* Re: special case to disable italic correction
  2014-01-28 14:14 ` Hans Hagen
@ 2014-01-28 17:51   ` Pablo Rodriguez
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 3+ messages in thread
From: Pablo Rodriguez @ 2014-01-28 17:51 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: mailing list for ConTeXt users

On 01/28/2014 03:14 PM, Hans Hagen wrote:
> On 1/26/2014 8:24 PM, Pablo Rodriguez wrote:
>> [...]
>> If I get it right, the italic correction should be avoided before points
>> and commas (these are all the exceptions I can imagine for this case).
>> The explanation is simple: the space is already at the base line, since
>> at the glyph base, the inclination of the italic or slanted glyph makes
>> the right side-bearing larger at the baseline. The issue with italic
>> correction is mainly with ascenders or at the cap height, but I think it
>> isn’t at the base line (or the descenders). Because of that I think it
>> is important to disable italic correction before points and commas.
>> [...]
> Hard coded char checking is talking all punctuation is tricky, so i now 
> use a threshold instead (enabled by default).
> [,,,]
> Will be in next beta.

Many thanks for your implementation, Hans.

It works fine now.

Many thanks again for your work,


Pablo
-- 
http://www.ousia.tk
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