* getting text outside cropmarks to work
@ 2014-02-05 15:45 Lars Huttar
2014-02-05 16:03 ` Wolfgang Schuster
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From: Lars Huttar @ 2014-02-05 15:45 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Hello,
Under mkii we used to have a running footer that appeared below the crop
marks. Under mkiv I can't get that to work.
The MWE I'm trying (with ConTeXt mkiv from the TeXLive 2013 CD):
\def\TopText { Top Text }
\def\BottomText { Bottom Text }
\def\pagecutmarksymbol {\the\realpageno}
\def\pagecutmarklength {.5cm}
\let\pagecutmarktoptext \TopText
\let\pagecutmarkbottomtext \BottomText
\setuplayout[marking=text]
%\setuplayout[marking=on]
\starttext
\input knuth
\stoptext
Code like this used to work for us in mkii.
I tried it with both marking=text and marking=on, but in either case, I
get neither crop marks nor the text.
(In our real document, I was able to get crop marks with [marking=on].
But not text. And haven't figured out how to get crop marks in a MWE.)
Relevant guidance I've been trying to follow:
http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Imposition#Cut_marks
http://context.markmail.org/thread/kpayudrtabsti76i
Thanks for any help on how to get text (pagecutmarkbottomtext) to appear
outside the crop marks.
Lars
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2014-02-05 15:45 getting text outside cropmarks to work Lars Huttar
@ 2014-02-05 16:03 ` Wolfgang Schuster
2014-02-05 16:30 ` Lars Huttar
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From: Wolfgang Schuster @ 2014-02-05 16:03 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Am 05.02.2014 um 16:45 schrieb Lars Huttar <lars_huttar@sil.org>:
> Hello,
>
> Under mkii we used to have a running footer that appeared below the crop
> marks. Under mkiv I can't get that to work.
>
> The MWE I'm trying (with ConTeXt mkiv from the TeXLive 2013 CD):
>
> \def\TopText { Top Text }
>
> \def\BottomText { Bottom Text }
>
> \def\pagecutmarksymbol {\the\realpageno}
>
> \def\pagecutmarklength {.5cm}
>
> \let\pagecutmarktoptext \TopText
>
> \let\pagecutmarkbottomtext \BottomText
>
> \setuplayout[marking=text]
>
> %\setuplayout[marking=on]
>
> \starttext
>
> \input knuth
>
> \stoptext
>
> Code like this used to work for us in mkii.
Redefining internal commands isn’t a good solution, what you can do is to use a layer to place your texts.
Wolfgang
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2014-02-05 16:03 ` Wolfgang Schuster
@ 2014-02-05 16:30 ` Lars Huttar
2014-02-06 15:12 ` Wolfgang Schuster
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From: Lars Huttar @ 2014-02-05 16:30 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On 2/5/2014 11:03 AM, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
> Am 05.02.2014 um 16:45 schrieb Lars Huttar <lars_huttar@sil.org>:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> Under mkii we used to have a running footer that appeared below the crop
>> marks. Under mkiv I can't get that to work.
>>
>> The MWE I'm trying (with ConTeXt mkiv from the TeXLive 2013 CD):
>>
>> \def\TopText { Top Text }
>>
>> \def\BottomText { Bottom Text }
>>
>> \def\pagecutmarksymbol {\the\realpageno}
>>
>> \def\pagecutmarklength {.5cm}
>>
>> \let\pagecutmarktoptext \TopText
>>
>> \let\pagecutmarkbottomtext \BottomText
>>
>> \setuplayout[marking=text]
>>
>> %\setuplayout[marking=on]
>>
>> \starttext
>>
>> \input knuth
>>
>> \stoptext
>>
>> Code like this used to work for us in mkii.
> Redefining internal commands isn’t a good solution, what you can do is to use a layer to place your texts.
>
Thanks for your reply.
When you say "redefining internal commands", is that referring to
statements like
\let\pagecutmarktoptext \TopText
?
AFAICT this is the recommended solution, both on the current wiki (http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Imposition#Cut_marks) and by Hans (http://context.markmail.org/thread/kpayudrtabsti76i) albeit several years ago; the current ref man (section 3.4 Page design / page composition) also lists marking=TEXT as an option for \setuplayout. If this is correct, how is one supposed to specify the text to display?
Am I misunderstanding the documentation, or is it just obsolete?
If we need to implement this using layers, does anyone have a recent
example of using a layer to place a running footer outside the crop marks?
Thanks,
Lars
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2014-02-05 16:30 ` Lars Huttar
@ 2014-02-06 15:12 ` Wolfgang Schuster
2014-02-06 16:23 ` Lars Huttar
2014-02-07 15:17 ` Lars Huttar
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From: Wolfgang Schuster @ 2014-02-06 15:12 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Am 05.02.2014 um 17:30 schrieb Lars Huttar <lars_huttar@sil.org>:
> On 2/5/2014 11:03 AM, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
>> Am 05.02.2014 um 16:45 schrieb Lars Huttar <lars_huttar@sil.org>:
>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> Under mkii we used to have a running footer that appeared below the crop
>>> marks. Under mkiv I can't get that to work.
>>>
>>> The MWE I'm trying (with ConTeXt mkiv from the TeXLive 2013 CD):
>>>
>>> \def\TopText { Top Text }
>>>
>>> \def\BottomText { Bottom Text }
>>>
>>> \def\pagecutmarksymbol {\the\realpageno}
>>>
>>> \def\pagecutmarklength {.5cm}
>>>
>>> \let\pagecutmarktoptext \TopText
>>>
>>> \let\pagecutmarkbottomtext \BottomText
>>>
>>> \setuplayout[marking=text]
>>>
>>> %\setuplayout[marking=on]
>>>
>>> \starttext
>>>
>>> \input knuth
>>>
>>> \stoptext
>>>
>>> Code like this used to work for us in mkii.
>> Redefining internal commands isn’t a good solution, what you can do is to use a layer to place your texts.
>>
>
> Thanks for your reply.
>
> When you say "redefining internal commands", is that referring to
> statements like
>
> \let\pagecutmarktoptext \TopText
>
> ?
>
> AFAICT this is the recommended solution, both on the current wiki (http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Imposition#Cut_marks) and by Hans (http://context.markmail.org/thread/kpayudrtabsti76i) albeit several years ago; the current ref man (section 3.4 Page design / page composition) also lists marking=TEXT as an option for \setuplayout. If this is correct, how is one supposed to specify the text to display?
>
> Am I misunderstanding the documentation, or is it just obsolete?
>
> If we need to implement this using layers, does anyone have a recent
> example of using a layer to place a running footer outside the crop marks?
\setuppapersize[A4][A3]
\setuplayout[location=middle,marking=on]
\setupbodyfont[modern]
\definelayer[cropmark][width=\paperwidth,height=\paperheight]
\setupbackgrounds[page][background=cropmark]
\setlayer[cropmark][preset=middlebottom,y=-\lineheight]{Bottom Text}
\setlayer[cropmark][preset=middletop,y=-\lineheight]{Top Text}
\starttext
\input knuth
\stoptext
Wolfgang
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2014-02-06 15:12 ` Wolfgang Schuster
@ 2014-02-06 16:23 ` Lars Huttar
2014-02-07 15:17 ` Lars Huttar
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From: Lars Huttar @ 2014-02-06 16:23 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On 2/6/2014 10:12 AM, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
>
> Am 05.02.2014 um 17:30 schrieb Lars Huttar <lars_huttar@sil.org
> <mailto:lars_huttar@sil.org>>:
>
>> ... If we need to implement this using layers, does anyone have a recent
>> example of using a layer to place a running footer outside the crop
>> marks?
>
> \setuppapersize[A4][A3]
>
> \setuplayout[location=middle,marking=on]
>
> \setupbodyfont[modern]
>
> \definelayer[cropmark][width=\paperwidth,height=\paperheight]
>
> \setupbackgrounds[page][background=cropmark]
>
> \setlayer[cropmark][preset=middlebottom,y=-\lineheight]{Bottom Text}
> \setlayer[cropmark][preset=middletop,y=-\lineheight]{Top Text}
>
> \starttext
> \input knuth
> \stoptext
>
> Wolfgang
>
Thanks, this looks very helpful. I'll give it a try.
Lars
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2014-02-06 15:12 ` Wolfgang Schuster
2014-02-06 16:23 ` Lars Huttar
@ 2014-02-07 15:17 ` Lars Huttar
2014-02-07 15:21 ` Wolfgang Schuster
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From: Lars Huttar @ 2014-02-07 15:17 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On 2/6/2014 10:12 AM, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
>
> Am 05.02.2014 um 17:30 schrieb Lars Huttar <lars_huttar@sil.org
> <mailto:lars_huttar@sil.org>>:
>
>> ...
>> If we need to implement this using layers, does anyone have a recent
>> example of using a layer to place a running footer outside the crop
>> marks?
>
> \setuppapersize[A4][A3]
>
> \setuplayout[location=middle,marking=on]
>
> \setupbodyfont[modern]
>
> \definelayer[cropmark][width=\paperwidth,height=\paperheight]
>
> \setupbackgrounds[page][background=cropmark]
>
> \setlayer[cropmark][preset=middlebottom,y=-\lineheight]{Bottom Text}
> \setlayer[cropmark][preset=middletop,y=-\lineheight]{Top Text}
>
> \starttext
> \input knuth
> \stoptext
>
>
This works for one page, but when I increase the length of the text to
take multiple pages, the top and bottom text only appears on the first
page. (Again, using ConTeXt version 2013.05.28 00:36 from the TeX Live CD.)
How do you make layers, or backgrounds, appear on every page?
Thanks,
Lars
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2014-02-07 15:17 ` Lars Huttar
@ 2014-02-07 15:21 ` Wolfgang Schuster
2014-02-11 15:38 ` Lars Huttar
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From: Wolfgang Schuster @ 2014-02-07 15:21 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Am 07.02.2014 um 16:17 schrieb Lars Huttar <lars_huttar@sil.org>:
> On 2/6/2014 10:12 AM, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
>>
>> Am 05.02.2014 um 17:30 schrieb Lars Huttar <lars_huttar@sil.org
>> <mailto:lars_huttar@sil.org>>:
>>
>>> ...
>>> If we need to implement this using layers, does anyone have a recent
>>> example of using a layer to place a running footer outside the crop
>>> marks?
>>
>> \setuppapersize[A4][A3]
>>
>> \setuplayout[location=middle,marking=on]
>>
>> \setupbodyfont[modern]
>>
>> \definelayer[cropmark][width=\paperwidth,height=\paperheight]
>>
>> \setupbackgrounds[page][background=cropmark]
>>
>> \setlayer[cropmark][preset=middlebottom,y=-\lineheight]{Bottom Text}
>> \setlayer[cropmark][preset=middletop,y=-\lineheight]{Top Text}
>>
>> \starttext
>> \input knuth
>> \stoptext
>>
>>
>
> This works for one page, but when I increase the length of the text to
> take multiple pages, the top and bottom text only appears on the first
> page. (Again, using ConTeXt version 2013.05.28 00:36 from the TeX Live CD.)
> How do you make layers, or backgrounds, appear on every page?
Add “state=repeat” to \definelayer:
\definelayer[cropmark][state=repeat,width=\paperwidth,height=\paperheight]
Wolfgang
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2014-02-07 15:21 ` Wolfgang Schuster
@ 2014-02-11 15:38 ` Lars Huttar
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From: Lars Huttar @ 2014-02-11 15:38 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On 2/7/2014 10:21 AM, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
> Am 07.02.2014 um 16:17 schrieb Lars Huttar <lars_huttar@sil.org>:
>
>> This works for one page, but when I increase the length of the text to
>> take multiple pages, the top and bottom text only appears on the first
>> page. (Again, using ConTeXt version 2013.05.28 00:36 from the TeX Live CD.)
>> How do you make layers, or backgrounds, appear on every page?
>
> Add “state=repeat” to \definelayer:
>
> \definelayer[cropmark][state=repeat,width=\paperwidth,height=\paperheight]
>
It works for me. Thanks again!
Lars
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