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From: Jaroslav Hajtmar <hajtmar@gyza.cz>
Cc: mailing list for ConTeXt users <ntg-context@ntg.nl>
Subject: Re: OT: Reflections on usability ConTeXt for typesetting of mathematics
Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2014 00:22:22 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <52F80DAE.2020006@gyza.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <44F589C2-2032-4AB1-AFFB-ACE7676C10A0@gmail.com>

Thanks Otared.
Many thanks for your reaction.  Even if I would not not make any other 
statement than yours, so I'm clear at this time that the problem is 
probably sitting in front of a keyboard and monitor :-).

Perhaps the problem is that the Internet is relatively little of 
mathematical demonstrations in ConTeXt, and if one is accustomed to some 
practices in LaTeX or use different packages, it can be a little taken 
aback ConTeXt. Now I also found that even though I dont switch fonts, so 
I worked in an environment that me from switching fonts and therefore 
some formulas look very bad. But it is my wrong.
I've got to give more attention. Enthusiasm for my current project takes 
patience and sound reasoning. I've to give a time to prevents my mistakes.
When I am not careful, then I am doing many of dificult searchable errors.

Thanks for ConTeXt and thanks to all in this list for your advice and help.

Jaroslav Hajtmar






Dne 9.2.2014 23:31, Otared Kavian napsal(a):
> Hi,
>
> I do use ConTeXt for typesetting mathematics, and actually I began to use ConTeXt several years ago for my work as a mathematician: up to now I haven’t encountered a single instance in which ConTeXt would not give the expected result, and as a matter of fact the out-of-the-box capabilities and the quality of the typestting when using ConTeXt seems to me quite superior to plain TeX or LaTeX. I use ConTeXt for writing exercise sheets, lecture notes, and drafts of papers and all the presentations for my talks.
> It is true that when submitting my papers to journals, unfortunately I have to switch back to LaTeX, but even so I prefer using ConTeXt in all the preparation steps because it is more convenient to use, and also I can use these notes directly for my lecture notes and presentations.
>
> Now coming to answer your questions:
>
>> I have a few questions:
>>
>> 0. Do you think that this is only a problem for beginners of ConText or it is a general problem of ConTeXt?
> All depends on how complex one's document is, and how deep one’s knowledge of TeX and ConTeXt is.
>
>> 1. How many of ConTeXt users use this tool for typesetting of non-elementary mathematics?
> I cannot say anything about the overall number of users, but as I said above I use it for the kind of maths I am doing: some of it is really not elementary…
>
>> 2. Are you satisfied with the results, which produces ConTeXt (thinking in the field of mathematics rate)?
> I am absolutely satisfied with the results.
>
>> 3. What things do you need to have in ConTeXt study that one could bet mathematics at a reasonable level?
> My knowledge of TeX and ConTeXt is rather elementary, but this does not prevent me to use ConTeXt. Moreover in the rare situations in which I don’t know how to achieve a certain result, there a good group of gurus on the mailing list to help solve my problem.
>
>> 4. Is ConTeXt able to substitute LaTeX to typesetting of math (e.g. in the future)?
> For sure it is: the reason for which ConTeXt is seldom used among mathematicians (or other scientists) is the fact that journals have developped specific macros for their layout and despite the fact that the quality and shortcomings of LaTeX are well-known, publishers of these journals are more than reluctant to switch to a more modern macro package of TeX, such as ConTeXt.
>
>> 5. Can you think of any more questions that should be here?
> Maybe one can imagine a script which would downgrade a file written in ConTeXt to a LaTeX file, once one accepts to lose the quality of the typesetting…
>
> Best regards: OK
>
> On 9 févr. 2014, at 20:09, Jaroslav Hajtmar <hajtmar@gyza.cz> wrote:
>
>> Hello ConTeXist.
>> I am very sorry for this OFF TOPIC contribution.
>>
>> For writing of this text led me several hours of searching on internet. I was looking for ways to typing of non-elementary math in ConTeXt
>>
>> Already a long time I use ConTeXt typesetting lot of different things and I am very satisfied. In the many things, of which I typed, was maths represented only marginally and minimally. Now I need to type some mathematics (at secondary school level) and I found that I came across borders of my knowledge of ConTeXt, or on possibilities of ConTeXt for typesetting of mathematics.
>> I do not in any way call into question the ability of ConTeXt typesetting mathematics, although I think that who wants to type mathematics then use LaTeX.
>> I want find experience of users of ConTeXt for real using of ConTeXt for typesetting of mathematics. I wonder how users use possible math modules (exist anything?) to be usable results.
>>
>> I have a few questions:
>>
>> 0. Do you think that this is only a problem for beginners of ConText or it is a general problem of ConTeXt?
>> 1. How many of ConTeXt users use this tool for typesetting of non-elementary mathematics?
>> 2. Are you satisfied with the results, which produces ConTeXt (thinking in the field of mathematics rate)?
>> 3. What things do you need to have in ConTeXt study that one could bet mathematics at a reasonable level?
>> 4. Is ConTeXt able to substitute LaTeX to typesetting of math (e.g. in the future)?
>> 5. Can you think of any more questions that should be here?
>>
>>
>> I hope that my question will help other beginners who would like to typing of mathematics use ConText - this unique and useful tool.
>>
>> Thanks for all the answers.
>>
>> Jaroslav Hajtmar
>>
>>
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  reply	other threads:[~2014-02-09 23:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-02-09 19:09 Jaroslav Hajtmar
2014-02-09 22:31 ` Otared Kavian
2014-02-09 23:22   ` Jaroslav Hajtmar [this message]
2014-02-10  2:55     ` Shree Devi Kumar
2014-02-10  8:24 ` Mikael P. Sundqvist
2014-02-10 17:57   ` Hans Hagen
2014-02-11  8:57     ` Mikael P. Sundqvist
2014-02-11  9:18       ` Fabrice Couvreur
2014-02-11 10:33         ` Martin Schröder
2014-02-11 10:33       ` Keith J. Schultz
2014-02-11 13:18         ` Mikael P. Sundqvist
2014-02-11 19:51           ` Fabrice Couvreur
2014-02-12  9:01           ` Keith J. Schultz
2014-02-13 13:40             ` Mikael P. Sundqvist
2014-02-13 14:34               ` Khaled Hosny
2014-02-13 14:45                 ` Mikael P. Sundqvist
2014-02-13 15:14               ` Keith J. Schultz
2014-02-10  8:45 ` Keith J. Schultz
2014-02-10  9:08   ` Fabrice Couvreur
2014-02-10 17:55     ` Hans Hagen
2014-02-26  9:09 Xan

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