Re: OT: Reflections on usability ConTeXt for typesetting of mathematics

From: Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl>
To: ntg-context@ntg.nl
Subject: Re: OT: Reflections on usability ConTeXt for typesetting of mathematics
Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2014 18:57:27 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <52F91307.4070205@wxs.nl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAHy-LL_5P1ybmh5oPA6wWXUjvZJKuu7iR7YnGDr_UKt4CeOOXQ@mail.gmail.com>

On 2/10/2014 9:24 AM, Mikael P. Sundqvist wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I used ConTeXt (mkii) to write my PhD thesis in Mathematics in 2008. It
> worked just fine.
>
> At the moment I write some exams and hand-outs using ConTeXt, but
> research using LaTeX (since the journals do not really accept ConTeXt
> and my collaborators dont know ConTeXt).
>
> It certainly works OK to write math in ConTeXt, but I have a feeling
> that there are some things that are somewhat broken or not finetuned to
> output what mathematicians expect. Look at the attached pdf files [1]
> l.pdf (from LaTeX) and c.pdf (from latest standalone ConTeXt), with
> source l.tex and c.tex for some examples.

In mkiv we follow some alternative approaches compared to mkii (and 
probably other tex macro packages) and some aspects indeed might need 
tuning (or more configuration options) .. I try hard to get away from 
hackery solutions (for several reasons).

> When it comes to math environments, I think that thanks to the
> environments in http://dl.contextgarden.net/myway/mathalign.pdf
> <http://dl.contextgarden..net/myway/mathalign.pdf> we are OK. I
> sometimes miss the multline(d) environment from LaTeX.
>
> Best regards, Mikael
>
> [1]
> The attachments were too big, so I decided to put the pdf files on
> http://www.maths.lth.se/~mickep/l.pdf
> and
> http://www.maths.lth.se/~mickep/c.pdf
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Feb 9, 2014 at 8:09 PM, Jaroslav Hajtmar <hajtmar@gyza.cz
> <mailto:hajtmar@gyza.cz>> wrote:
>
>     Hello ConTeXist.
>     I am very sorry for this OFF TOPIC contribution.
>
>     For writing of this text led me several hours of searching on
>     internet. I was looking for ways to typing of non-elementary math in
>     ConTeXt
>
>     Already a long time I use ConTeXt typesetting lot of different
>     things and I am very satisfied. In the many things, of which I
>     typed, was maths represented only marginally and minimally. Now I
>     need to type some mathematics (at secondary school level) and I
>     found that I came across borders of my knowledge of ConTeXt, or on
>     possibilities of ConTeXt for typesetting of mathematics.
>     I do not in any way call into question the ability of ConTeXt
>     typesetting mathematics, although I think that who wants to type
>     mathematics then use LaTeX.
>     I want find experience of users of ConTeXt for real using of ConTeXt
>     for typesetting of mathematics. I wonder how users use possible math
>     modules (exist anything?) to be usable results.
>
>     I have a few questions:
>
>     0. Do you think that this is only a problem for beginners of ConText
>     or it is a general problem of ConTeXt?
>     1. How many of ConTeXt users use this tool for typesetting of
>     non-elementary mathematics?
>     2. Are you satisfied with the results, which produces ConTeXt
>     (thinking in the field of mathematics rate)?
>     3. What things do you need to have in ConTeXt study that one could
>     bet mathematics at a reasonable level?
>     4. Is ConTeXt able to substitute LaTeX to typesetting of math (e.g.
>     in the future)?
>     5. Can you think of any more questions that should be here?
>
>
>     I hope that my question will help other beginners who would like to
>     typing of mathematics use ConText - this unique and useful tool.
>
>     Thanks for all the answers.
>
>     Jaroslav Hajtmar
>
>
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