* (again) bug with bidi direction and \about references
@ 2014-03-03 18:49 Pablo Rodriguez
2014-03-04 10:30 ` Hans Hagen
2014-03-04 16:07 ` Khaled Hosny
0 siblings, 2 replies; 7+ messages in thread
From: Pablo Rodriguez @ 2014-03-03 18:49 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: mailing list for ConTeXt users
Hi Hans,
sorry for telling again, but I’m afraid that the following sample shows
a serious buggy interaction between \setupdirections[bidi=on] and \about
references.
\setupdirections[bidi=on]
\starttext
\section[sectionone]{Section one}
As said in \dorecurse{5}
{\about[sectionone]\footnote{Body reference misplaced.}, }
\stoptext
Both \about and footnote references in body are misplaced.
It would be great, if you could fix this.
Many thanks for your help,
Pablo
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^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 7+ messages in thread* Re: (again) bug with bidi direction and \about references 2014-03-03 18:49 (again) bug with bidi direction and \about references Pablo Rodriguez @ 2014-03-04 10:30 ` Hans Hagen 2014-03-04 15:54 ` Pablo Rodriguez 2014-03-04 16:07 ` Khaled Hosny 1 sibling, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread From: Hans Hagen @ 2014-03-04 10:30 UTC (permalink / raw) To: ntg-context On 3/3/2014 7:49 PM, Pablo Rodriguez wrote: > Hi Hans, > > sorry for telling again, but I’m afraid that the following sample shows > a serious buggy interaction between \setupdirections[bidi=on] and \about > references. > > \setupdirections[bidi=on] > \starttext > > \section[sectionone]{Section one} > > As said in \dorecurse{5} > {\about[sectionone]\footnote{Body reference misplaced.}, } > \stoptext > > Both \about and footnote references in body are misplaced. > > It would be great, if you could fix this. what exactly is wrong ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl ----------------------------------------------------------------- ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 7+ messages in thread
* Re: (again) bug with bidi direction and \about references 2014-03-04 10:30 ` Hans Hagen @ 2014-03-04 15:54 ` Pablo Rodriguez 0 siblings, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread From: Pablo Rodriguez @ 2014-03-04 15:54 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 599 bytes --] On 03/04/2014 11:30 AM, Hans Hagen wrote: > On 3/3/2014 7:49 PM, Pablo Rodriguez wrote: >> [...] >> \setupdirections[bidi=on] >> \starttext >> >> \section[sectionone]{Section one} >> >> As said in \dorecurse{5} >> {\about[sectionone]\footnote{Body reference misplaced.}, } >> \stoptext >> >> Both \about and footnote references in body are misplaced. >> >> It would be great, if you could fix this. > > what exactly is wrong Well, text is misplaced in the lower left corner of the page (outside margins). The attached PDF file shows it. Many thanks for your help, Pablo -- http://www.ousia.tk [-- Attachment #2: misplaced-about.pdf --] [-- Type: application/pdf, Size: 11660 bytes --] [-- Attachment #3: Type: text/plain, Size: 485 bytes --] ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 7+ messages in thread
* Re: (again) bug with bidi direction and \about references 2014-03-03 18:49 (again) bug with bidi direction and \about references Pablo Rodriguez 2014-03-04 10:30 ` Hans Hagen @ 2014-03-04 16:07 ` Khaled Hosny 2014-03-04 16:11 ` Pablo Rodriguez 2015-08-12 20:19 ` Rik Kabel 1 sibling, 2 replies; 7+ messages in thread From: Khaled Hosny @ 2014-03-04 16:07 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users On Mon, Mar 03, 2014 at 07:49:07PM +0100, Pablo Rodriguez wrote: > Hi Hans, > > sorry for telling again, but I’m afraid that the following sample shows > a serious buggy interaction between \setupdirections[bidi=on] and \about > references. > > \setupdirections[bidi=on] No problem with \setupdirections[bidi=on,method=two] (which I still think should be the default, but Hans is not convinced). Regards, Khaled ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 7+ messages in thread
* Re: (again) bug with bidi direction and \about references 2014-03-04 16:07 ` Khaled Hosny @ 2014-03-04 16:11 ` Pablo Rodriguez 2015-08-12 20:19 ` Rik Kabel 1 sibling, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread From: Pablo Rodriguez @ 2014-03-04 16:11 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users On 03/04/2014 05:07 PM, Khaled Hosny wrote: > On Mon, Mar 03, 2014 at 07:49:07PM +0100, Pablo Rodriguez wrote: >> Hi Hans, >> >> sorry for telling again, but I’m afraid that the following sample shows >> a serious buggy interaction between \setupdirections[bidi=on] and \about >> references. >> >> \setupdirections[bidi=on] > > No problem with \setupdirections[bidi=on,method=two] (which I still > think should be the default, but Hans is not convinced). Many thanks, Khaled, for your quick reply that solves the issue. Pablo -- http://www.ousia.tk ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 7+ messages in thread
* Re: (again) bug with bidi direction and \about references 2014-03-04 16:07 ` Khaled Hosny 2014-03-04 16:11 ` Pablo Rodriguez @ 2015-08-12 20:19 ` Rik Kabel 2015-08-12 21:18 ` Hans Hagen 1 sibling, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread From: Rik Kabel @ 2015-08-12 20:19 UTC (permalink / raw) To: ntg-context On 2014-03-04 11:07, Khaled Hosny wrote: > On Mon, Mar 03, 2014 at 07:49:07PM +0100, Pablo Rodriguez wrote: >> Hi Hans, >> >> sorry for telling again, but I’m afraid that the following sample shows >> a serious buggy interaction between \setupdirections[bidi=on] and \about >> references. >> >> \setupdirections[bidi=on] > No problem with \setupdirections[bidi=on,method=two] (which I still > think should be the default, but Hans is not convinced). > > Regards, > Khaled Khaled, I too had to rely on method=two as well to get around the problem with references appearing at the bottom left of some pages, but this seems to be resolved with the recent betas and the changes Hans has made at Talal's urging. Perhaps you could test to see if resolves your cases. -- Rik ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 7+ messages in thread
* Re: (again) bug with bidi direction and \about references 2015-08-12 20:19 ` Rik Kabel @ 2015-08-12 21:18 ` Hans Hagen 0 siblings, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread From: Hans Hagen @ 2015-08-12 21:18 UTC (permalink / raw) To: ntg-context On 8/12/2015 10:19 PM, Rik Kabel wrote: > On 2014-03-04 11:07, Khaled Hosny wrote: >> On Mon, Mar 03, 2014 at 07:49:07PM +0100, Pablo Rodriguez wrote: >>> Hi Hans, >>> >>> sorry for telling again, but I’m afraid that the following sample shows >>> a serious buggy interaction between \setupdirections[bidi=on] and \about >>> references. >>> >>> \setupdirections[bidi=on] >> No problem with \setupdirections[bidi=on,method=two] (which I still >> think should be the default, but Hans is not convinced). >> >> Regards, >> Khaled > > Khaled, > > I too had to rely on method=two as well to get around the problem with > references appearing at the bottom left of some pages, but this seems to > be resolved with the recent betas and the changes Hans has made at > Talal's urging. > > Perhaps you could test to see if resolves your cases. there are three methods: - default : based on how idris uses structured tex + mixed latin/arabic - one : from khaled, optimized and extended a bit by me - two : a follow up on 'one' by me (updated unicode bidi specs + more clever fences) 'default' is more efficient and ok for most mixed cases like the ones idris needs; i will probably leave 'one' as-is but will at some point optimize method 'two' and probably add some options there; also, in the case of for instance writing manuals 'default' might be a better choice anyway, the problem with all methods (and more if it's a strict one) is that (as with more solutions) it's hard to get around when you want something different; also unicode bidi evolves (and actually the last version handles some cases that were the reason for 'default' in the first place as idris noted conceptual issues with unicode bidi at that time) so one can wonder about compatibility issues with any such mechanism that applies some heuristics to input instead of tagging now, messing with the text stream is one aspect of bidi but that will not solve layout issues and special cases like hyperlinks, margin notes, images and such because simply reversing the par dir (or text dir) can interfere a lot (the dir mechanism in luatex is taken from omega and was never made for real complex mixed cases) .. many mechanisms need to be made r2l aware so ... in order to get everything all right we need to test and improve stepwise ... no other way (i'm playing with a better handling of line number for instance, where we have quite some interaction between paragraph properties and putting numbers at the right spot, and that's only one thing of many ... and i prefer to leave the luatex engine untouched ... i'm not really a user of r2l myself so ... a slow free-time process) Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl ----------------------------------------------------------------- ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 7+ messages in thread
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