From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/12287 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Giuseppe Bilotta Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re[2]: newbie question: greek in ConTeXt? Date: Sun, 18 May 2003 01:27:27 +0200 Sender: ntg-context-admin@ntg.nl Message-ID: <533116020.20030518012727@iol.it> References: <3234156204.20030515192316@iol.it> <3EC409D5.9A298779@lamar.colostate.edu> <566407904.20030516000359@iol.it> <5.2.0.9.1.20030517220745.01ab9770@localhost> Reply-To: ntg-context@ntg.nl NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1053214177 28830 80.91.224.249 (17 May 2003 23:29:37 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 17 May 2003 23:29:37 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: ntg-context-admin@ntg.nl Sun May 18 01:29:35 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from ref.vet.uu.nl ([131.211.172.13] helo=ref.ntg.nl) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19HB7P-0007Uo-00 for ; Sun, 18 May 2003 01:29:35 +0200 Original-Received: from ref.ntg.nl (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by ref.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AA6C10AE7; Sun, 18 May 2003 01:31:19 +0200 (MEST) Original-Received: from smtp1.libero.it (smtp1.libero.it [193.70.192.51]) by ref.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 275BB10AE7 for ; Sun, 18 May 2003 01:27:47 +0200 (MEST) Original-Received: from [151.29.131.33] (151.29.131.33) by smtp1.libero.it (7.0.012) id 3E95468600D0A3BB for ntg-context@ntg.nl; Sun, 18 May 2003 01:27:42 +0200 X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.63 Beta/7) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Original-To: ntg-context@ntg.nl In-Reply-To: <5.2.0.9.1.20030517220745.01ab9770@localhost> Errors-To: ntg-context-admin@ntg.nl X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:12287 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.comp.tex.context:12287 Saturday, May 17, 2003 Hans Hagen wrote: HH> At 13:09 17/05/2003 -0600, Idris S Hamid wrote: >>Giuseppe Bilotta wrote: >> >> > BTW, Idris, I locally made a few changes to m-gamma, partly to >> > make it more ConTeXtish, and partly to make it capable of using >> > the latest OTPs (those from the 1.2x series, which anyway don't >> > seem to fix the problem); you may want to have a look at it and >> > "officialize" the changes. Shall I send it to you? >> >>Sure, I'll be happy to look at it. But I'd also be happy to turn over >>maintanence of m-gamma to you (and Hans), since u're much more of an expert >>in these things and I'm still a rank amateur:-) HH> as soon as you have m-gamma complete i'll move thinsg to the core of context Two things: supporting gamma is for me somewhat a problem, because I have *very* limited knowledge of the multilingual stuff which is in it. The only fixes I implemented were some "ConTeXtization" of a few things which had remained "LaTeXish" or even TeXish in a couple of cases. Anyway, the current m-gamma thing can only be a temporary solution: the whole thing really needs to be redesigned from scratch with ConTeXt in mind, and ConTeXt-specific OTPs should be designed. >>Off-topic: By the way, we need a torture file for eOmega. I'm still a >>little worried that the TRIP-fix may have broken some of the Omega-specific HH> what tripping the problem? it may be an unimportant one It was an extremely important one: it popped up in many real-world cases (at least according to Alan). The fix should not break anything, because it consisted in a removal of a routine which was used but without side-effects (at least that I could see). There other tripping problems (i.e. I *lied* when I said e-Omega can now trip correctly), but these seem to be major and will be addressed in the (hopefully near) future. >>features, and a good torture file would help immensely in noticing these >>things. I'll try to whip something up in addition to Omega's torture.tex >>(which I could never get to work anyway...) HH> forget about such tests, the real test for eomega is a 300 page document HH> with average memory settings; the main thing is to make sure that the otp HH> parser does not keep on reading whole files Do you have some such a test file? If you provide a link, I can try it here. Anyway, we do need real torture tests, possibly as heinous as TRIP and ETRIP (which BTW reminds me I should try to ETRIP e-Omega ...). -- Giuseppe "Oblomov" Bilotta