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From: Hans Hagen <j.hagen@xs4all.nl>
To: Neven Sajko <nsajko@gmail.com>
Cc: mailing list for ConTeXt users <ntg-context@ntg.nl>
Subject: Re: Snooping around in LMTX: Questions about Lua global variables
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2020 20:15:30 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <533939bf-1d6b-a69b-25ec-2ca40099e0e4@xs4all.nl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAL+bK4PqLgFK8Fap=4i4=vsdZbVYyonpTRpm_hbTc=c-oQG7cQ@mail.gmail.com>

On 12/22/2020 7:32 PM, Neven Sajko wrote:
> On Tue, 22 Dec 2020 at 18:15, Hans Hagen <j.hagen@xs4all.nl> wrote:
>>
>> On 12/22/2020 6:57 PM, Neven Sajko wrote:
>>> Oops, I forgot to attach the scriptlet before.
>>>
>>>
>>>> [...] I guess it could also be more performant, because Lua would
>>>> conceivably spend less time managing huge tables.
>>>
>>> Now that I think about this some more, it doesn't actually make sense.
>>> However I'm still interested in whether it is really necessary to have
>>> that many globals exposed.
>> most of what you see in that generated file is either unicode data or
>> font resources ... all needed (and geared for performance)
> 
> OK, now that I think just about the real global variables (instead of
> the "recursive" globals): would it make sense to transfer all the
> non-Lua-default globals into two tables, one for Lua(Meta)Tex, and
> another table for ConTeXt, so those would be the only two additional
> global variables?

well, and then if you load some library that would add some global again 
... so it's a chicken egg problem.

> I'm not proposing you do it, since it seems like it could be a lot of
> work, I'm just wondering what you think about that, because it seems
> like things would be much tidier like that (less chance of
> accidentally accessing a global in Lua code, etc.).
You can create your own instance:

\definenamedlua[mylua]

\startmyluacode
global.context("USER 1")
context.par()
context("USER 2")
context.par()
if characters then
     context("ACCESS directly")
elseif global.characters then
     context("ACCESS via global")
else
     context("NO ACCESS at all")
end
context.par()
if bogus then
     context("ACCESS directly")
elseif global.bogus then
     context("ACCESS via global")
else
     context("NO ACCESS at all")
end
context.par()
\stopmyluacode


I admit that I never run into conflicts. Ok, I never load libraries, 
mostly because we havne plenty of helpers on board. Changing the 
approach now would invalidate a lot of user code (and also mean a lot of 
work plus probably make us run into the > 200 locals issue due to 
aliasing).

Hans

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  reply	other threads:[~2020-12-22 19:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-12-22 17:36 Neven Sajko
2020-12-22 17:57 ` Neven Sajko
2020-12-22 18:15   ` Hans Hagen
2020-12-22 18:32     ` Neven Sajko
2020-12-22 19:15       ` Hans Hagen [this message]
2020-12-22 18:06 ` Hans Hagen
2020-12-22 18:13   ` Neven Sajko
2020-12-22 18:23     ` Hans Hagen

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